Wrestling News & Rumours Thread NO CHAT

Agent Coulson · 10-03-2021 6:10pm

Johnny Ace and Bruce Prichard in major position of power in 2021 this is the reason the WWE will never have another great era.

LineOfBeauty · 10-03-2021 6:10pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Peacock has been a major failure so far it will be years before they even have a chance to break even.

All these streaming companies are being build on major debt.

For sure and the ones backed by the biggest companies are buying up all the content they can right now. It's an arms race. But the WWE Network stuff, even in that context, is wild. Particularly that they don't automatically get the WWE Network subscriber base. It genuinely might be an all time bad deal.

LineOfBeauty · 10-03-2021 6:13pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Johnny Ace and Bruce Prichard in major position of power in 2021 this is the reason the WWE will never have another great era.

Look at who he's surrounded himself with and the makeup of the main roster. It's people he's comfortable with. Nobody to rock the boat. Ultimately it doesn't matter, he doesn't have to pop a rating or draw ppv buyers, he just needs to pump out content and why strive to do anything challenging or better when it's absolutely not needed.

Itssoeasy · 10-03-2021 6:36pm

So Johnny ace is back because he even beats Bruce in being a lap dog to Vince. Cm punk wasn’t wrong with the bunch of yes men was he. Also, I hope this doesn’t mean a return to the bad old days of the women’s division. Also, Johnny ace is known for booking the wrong amputee wrestler years ago. People should go listen to cornetttes rant about him and how he made OVWs life difficult.

ThePott · 10-03-2021 7:07pm

Posting their losses doesn't equate failure really. Disney+ has posted a 2.8 billion loss in a year. All these services are loss leaders. I do think there is room for Peacock in the streaming wars in general though.

LineOfBeauty · 10-03-2021 7:30pm

ThePott wrote: »

Posting their losses doesn't equate failure really. Disney+ has posted a 2.8 billion loss in a year. All these services are loss leaders. I do think there is room for Peacock in the streaming wars in general though.

True and that's right and I understand why they'd get the WWE Network (if they didn't another service would have) but the actual logistics of how they've gone about it is baffling.

Sirsok · 10-03-2021 8:01pm

All these streaming sites are baffling, Netflix came about because people were sick to the teeth of paying extortionate prices for their TV packages.

Netflix was great as it was an affordable price that negated the need to pirate. Now with all these streaming subscription based services piracy will be rife and alot easier to do.

I reckon some of these streaming services will pack it in as the market won't be their and go back to distribution deals. The likes of Netflix, Disney and Amazon will probably be safe in long term but others should fall. Its not cost effective for people anymore.

ThePott · 10-03-2021 8:29pm

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

True and that's right and I understand why they'd get the WWE Network (if they didn't another service would have) but the actual logistics of how they've gone about it is baffling.

I think they never really put any thought into how to do the things they promised and rushed to try get it there for Wrestlemania. That being said the search function and match markers beign lost was always going to happen unfortunately.

The transferring over of accounts was always going to be tricky but a big loss none the less.

Necro · 11-03-2021 11:43am

Why is the Network moving to Peacock? Is it money primarily? I've really been enjoying the old stuff since I resubbed for the Rumble, the functionality has massively improved as well as the show markers. Also when you're on a Raw binge from back in the day the fact it now switches to the next chronological show is great.

I know it isn't changing for us yet but it's a shame. Whatever about their current product the Network continues to be relatively decent value for money imo anyways

J. Marston · 11-03-2021 12:27pm

J. Marston wrote: »

In AEW, he'll be main event level and maybe get a world title run.

beakerjoe wrote: »

I bet you 20 quid he wont.

LineOfBeauty · 11-03-2021 12:33pm

J. Marston wrote: »

It's a match they'll build for a weekly special I'd imagine. Can't see them running that angle long enough to get to a ppv. Though not a chance Christian wins the thing.

beakerjoe · 11-03-2021 12:39pm

Not a hope he is winning. Fans wont accept a 47 year old upper mid carder of the early 2000 WWE winning the title.

And cheers for posting spoilers in here in an attempt to point score.

Im still open to that bet though, seriously....20 quid says he wont win it in the next 3 months.

LineOfBeauty · 11-03-2021 12:41pm

Necro wrote: »

Why is the Network moving to Peacock? Is it money primarily? I've really been enjoying the old stuff since I resubbed for the Rumble, the functionality has massively improved as well as the show markers. Also when you're on a Raw binge from back in the day the fact it now switches to the next chronological show is great.

I know it isn't changing for us yet but it's a shame. Whatever about their current product the Network continues to be relatively decent value for money imo anyways

It's money. Guaranteed money. You can absolutely make the argument that, for all it's positives of which there are many for fans, from a WWE perspective the Network has been a failure since its launch. They never converted the number of viewers they expected into paying subscribers. They never came close to hitting the targets they'd set for it. Even with the initial push for it (the non stop promos, the announcers telling you you're dumb if you pay for ppv rather than the Network) people just did not move onto it in the numbers they anticipated. Their conversion rate really was pretty awful. Worst still, they killed their PPV business by undercutting themselves. You look at the deal UFC got with ESPN+ and the even better deal they'll almost certainly get when it comes up for renewal, they managed that because they never undercut themselves on PPV. WWE instead decided to give away all of their shows (including the big 4, particularly Wrestlemania) for $10 rather than $60. By the end (the last year basically) they'd more or less given up growing the subscriber base, it wasn't going to happen. They'd spoken on their conference calls last year pre Wrestlemania about selling it, they finally managed to do that with Peacock. Rather than growing, it had completely stalled in and around the 1 million domestic subscribers mark, if anything it'd showed slow signs of decline rather than growth. They've gotten guaranteed money for it from Peacock, the right deal at this stage of the game was to sell it for the guaranteed money but I absolutely believe a strong argument could be made that had they not set up the Network in the first place (or had set it up whereby the big PPVs were valued at their previous level) this deal would have been made for more money.

J. Marston · 11-03-2021 12:45pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Not a hope he is winning. Fans wont accept a 47 year old upper mid carder of the early 2000 WWE winning the title.

And cheers for posting spoilers in here in an attempt to point score.

Im still open to that bet though, seriously....20 quid says he wont win it in the next 3 months.

Was the bet he won't win the title or he won't be main event level? You did say TNT title was his ceiling after all.

Apologies for the spoiler.

Necro · 11-03-2021 12:49pm

Probably for the Network thread but yeah it wasn't great sense financially for the company to begin with.

Was great for us though

Hopefully it takes a while for them to sell the international side of it, currently going through the alliance stuff which is ok, but my word did they sh1t the bed with that too trying to rush it through without the big WCW names.

LineOfBeauty · 11-03-2021 12:50pm

Necro wrote: »

Probably for the Network thread but yeah it wasn't great sense financially for the company to begin with.

Was great for us though

Hopefully it takes a while for them to sell the international side of it, currently going through the alliance stuff which is ok, but my word did they sh1t the bed with that too trying to rush it through without the big WCW names.

That's the fear for us. It looks inevitable they'll sell it eventually but the longer they don't, the better for us. On top of everything else, they completely underpriced the thing too.

beakerjoe · 11-03-2021 1:09pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Was the bet he won't win the title or he won't be main event level? You did say TNT title was his ceiling after all.

Apologies for the spoiler.

Winning the TNT is the best he can realistically achieve. Ive no problem with him in a short program with the World champ.

The bet would be that he wont become their top champion.

Its not the worst spoiler, but still. No worries.

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 1:13pm

Necro wrote: »

Probably for the Network thread but yeah it wasn't great sense financially for the company to begin with.

Was great for us though

Hopefully it takes a while for them to sell the international side of it, currently going through the alliance stuff which is ok, but my word did they sh1t the bed with that too trying to rush it through without the big WCW names.

I do feel sorry for the US fans who would presumably were and still are the majority of the subscriptions to it.

Unless peacock becomes available here and anywhere else outside the US then I don’t see them selling the rights anytime soon. Nobody jumps off the page as to who they’d sell them to. Anyway like the carry on film, we’ll carry on regardless.

Necro · 11-03-2021 1:17pm

Itssoeasy wrote:

Unless peacock becomes available here and anywhere else outside the US then I donâ€™t see them selling the rights anytime soon. Nobody jumps off the page as to who theyâ€™d sell them to. Anyway like the carry on film, weâ€™ll carry on regardless.

Hope it's not Disney anyways (unlikely). The app is awful on the PlayStation, no auto play, can't turn off your controller when watching an episode, crashes intermittently...

Anyways getting wildly off topic here!

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 1:24pm

Necro wrote: »

Hope it's not Disney anyways (unlikely). The app is awful on the PlayStation, no auto play, can't turn off your controller when watching an episode, crashes intermittently...

Anyways getting wildly off topic here!

Sorry chief it wasn’t my intention to drag threads off topic.

I think that Christian has a worlds title run in him. Seeing as AEW have a connection to the NWA they could work the fact that he’s a former two time holder of the NWA title and use the “real worlds champion” angle that flair used in his first wwe run. I think something like that could work.

Necro · 11-03-2021 1:28pm

Itssoeasy wrote:

Sorry chief it wasnâ€™t my intention to drag threads off topic.

Not at all, twas my fault for bringing it up in the first place!

Itssoeasy wrote:

I think that Christian has a worlds title run in him. Seeing as AEW have a connection to the NWA they could work the fact that heâ€™s a former two time holder of the NWA title and use the â€œreal worlds championâ€ angle that flair used in his first wwe run. I think something like that could work.

I'm not sure about this tbh. I think Christian is a grand signing if they use him similar to how Jericho has been used for the last while but there would be a distinct bang of TNA off it if they put the belt on him imo anyways.

bennyl10 · 11-03-2021 2:26pm

Takeover to be broadcast live on Bt sport..

Could mean a move to BT for everything as opposed to network is in one

Necro · 11-03-2021 2:34pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

Takeover to be broadcast live on Bt sport..

Could mean a move to BT for everything as opposed to network is in one

Please no

I refuse to go back to the PPV model

bennyl10 · 11-03-2021 2:36pm

Necro wrote: »

Please no I refuse to go back to the PPV model

I hope not, but this being on tv entirely..

certainly is a move in 'a direction' by WWE with BT, whether it means they get the network/exclusive PPV rights we'll see.. but it doesn't look great

Particularly here as BT box office is available on sky and nothing else

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 4:38pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

Takeover to be broadcast live on Bt sport..

Could mean a move to BT for everything as opposed to network is in one

Well takeover is a two night event this year so the first night is being shown in its broadcast spot so in the US its on USA network and then on peacock and as that’s BT sport here in Ireland and the uk. I wouldn’t be drawing any conclusions as to the future of the the network rights over here based on a takeover being broadcast on BT sport because that already happens.

beakerjoe · 11-03-2021 5:05pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

I hope not, but this being on tv entirely..

certainly is a move in 'a direction' by WWE with BT, whether it means they get the network/exclusive PPV rights we'll see.. but it doesn't look great

Particularly here as BT box office is available on sky and nothing else

I dont mind they PPV model if they had less PPVs. 8 year would be fine and Id be happy to shell out 15-20 bucks to watch a decent show.

Problem is there are over 14 main roster PPVs a year, 4-5 NXT PPVs and around half of these shows have content/matches that was thrown together at the last minute.

Im happy with AEWs model thus far. Yes its 20 bucks a PPV and theres less content as a whole. But Im happy to pay for 4 really well organized shows that mean something.

WWE jurns out content for the sake of it.

LineOfBeauty · 11-03-2021 5:30pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

I dont mind they PPV model if they had less PPVs. 8 year would be fine and Id be happy to shell out 15-20 bucks to watch a decent show.

Problem is there are over 14 main roster PPVs a year, 4-5 NXT PPVs and around half of these shows have content/matches that was thrown together at the last minute.

Im happy with AEWs model thus far. Yes its 20 bucks a PPV and theres less content as a whole. But Im happy to pay for 4 really well organized shows that mean something.

WWE jurns out content for the sake of it.

They're very much at different stages and as a result different plans right now. For WWE, the money is in pumping out content. The more content the better and the quality suffers as a result. For AEW, getting strong ratings in the demo and selling ppvs to a lesser extent is key and so the attention to detail in everything they produce is just at a higher level.

bennyl10 · 11-03-2021 5:40pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well takeover is a two night event this year so the first night is being shown in its broadcast spot so in the US its on USA network and then on peacock and as that’s BT sport here in Ireland and the uk. I wouldn’t be drawing any conclusions as to the future of the the network rights over here based on a takeover being broadcast on BT sport because that already happens.

when has a takeover been broadcast on Bt before?

The 2nd night being on the 'network' on now BT is certainly a change to the norm

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 6:34pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

when has a takeover been broadcast on Bt before?

The 2nd night being on the 'network' on now BT is certainly a change to the norm

When has a takeover been on USA network before ? It hasn’t before but wwe have decided to put it in it regular Wednesday night spot this years event. What night is the nxt takeover on BT mania weekend ? If it’s Wednesday it’s mirroring USA netork.

bennyl10 · 11-03-2021 6:35pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

When has a takeover been on USA network before ? It hasn’t before but wwe have decided to put it in it regular Wednesday night spot this years event. What night is the nxt takeover on BT mania weekend ? If it’s Wednesday it’s mirroring USA netork.

Bt are showing both nights live

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 6:38pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

Bt are showing both nights live

Not according to the BT sport website I’m looking at right now. It shows NXT on Thursday morning that week at 1am. There smackdown and there’s raw as usual but NXT only has one listing that week on BT sports 1.

bennyl10 · 11-03-2021 6:40pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Not according to the BT sport website I’m looking at right now. It shows NXT on Thursday morning that week at 1am. There smackdown and there’s raw as usual but NXT only has one listing that week on BT sports 1.

https://twitter.com/btsportwwe/status/1369944008332615682?s=21

Was going on their tweet this morning

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 6:42pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/btsportwwe/status/1369944008332615682?s=21

Was going on their tweet this morning

Well their listings on their website isn’t up to date then.

ThePott · 11-03-2021 6:56pm

From a fan perspective the Network move is a hindrance. Not having all content, markers and search functionality, yada yada.
From a consumer perspective, it's an absolute win. For less money you get all the content on Peacock too. Honestly, for me I'll take the latter.

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 6:58pm

ThePott wrote: »

From a fan perspective the Network move is a hindrance. Not having all content, markers and search functionality, yada yada.
From a consumer perspective, it's an absolute win. For less money you get all the content on Peacock too. Honestly, for me I'll take the latter.

We can’t get peacock in Ireland though and they’ve said that the network is only shutting down in the US anywhere else. I mean it’s possible that nxt takeovers are shown on BT and the network for a bit. Is there a BT sports app and is it available in Ireland ?

beakerjoe · 11-03-2021 7:00pm

ThePott wrote: »

From a fan perspective the Network move is a hindrance. Not having all content, markers and search functionality, yada yada.
From a consumer perspective, it's an absolute win. For less money you get all the content on Peacock too. Honestly, for me I'll take the latter.

But all consumers of WWE will be fans and for the extra few quid Id rather the Network Im used to.

Id be happy if WWE kept the historical content separate and send PPVs, new content to Peacock.

Its the historical content I enjoy, the PPVs are just a bonus.

ThePott · 11-03-2021 8:31pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

We can’t get peacock in Ireland though and they’ve said that the network is only shutting down in the US anywhere else. I mean it’s possible that nxt takeovers are shown on BT and the network for a bit. Is there a BT sports app and is it available in Ireland ?

That fact it's in America is irrelevant, I'm talking about Peacock and consumers in general. Until a decent streaming alternative emerges for the Network to migrate to, it won't happen and when it comes to streaming services over here we're probably far luckier than the many alternatives in America. Besides some people have spoken about Peacock and I'm using it myself here in Ireland. I don't think any of this means anything for PPVs here for now. ESPN PPVs for UFC haven't changed PPVs over here, they're still free on BT Sport, no? I'm talking purely as a consumer in America, Peacock is a better choice for consumers, IMO.

beakerjoe wrote: »

But all consumers of WWE will be fans and for the extra few quid Id rather the Network Im used to.
Id be happy if WWE kept the historical content separate and send PPVs, new content to Peacock.
Its the historical content I enjoy, the PPVs are just a bonus.

I think we're romanticising the network a bit, it has a fair few issues. The older content is going to be on Peacock eventually so I don't think that's a major loss. Not to mention Peacock is in it's infancy still too and there is some rumour that the functionality of the Network will be transfered over at some point. Maybe I'm the minority but paying half the price for the Network than I do and being offered Peacock's catalogue is a steal. If in the morning they announced that the Network would have a deal with Amazon Prime, Disney, etc. and you paid 6.50 for both, I think people would be pretty happy.

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 10:19pm

ThePott wrote: »

That fact it's in America is irrelevant, I'm talking about Peacock and consumers in general. Until a decent streaming alternative emerges for the Network to migrate to, it won't happen and when it comes to streaming services over here we're probably far luckier than the many alternatives in America. Besides some people have spoken about Peacock and I'm using it myself here in Ireland. I don't think any of this means anything for PPVs here for now. ESPN PPVs for UFC haven't changed PPVs over here, they're still free on BT Sport, no? I'm talking purely as a consumer in America, Peacock is a better choice for consumers, IMO.

I think we're romanticising the network a bit, it has a fair few issues. The older content is going to be on Peacock eventually so I don't think that's a major loss. Not to mention Peacock is in it's infancy still too and there is some rumour that the functionality of the Network will be transfered over at some point. Maybe I'm the minority but paying half the price for the Network than I do and being offered Peacock's catalogue is a steal. If in the morning they announced that the Network would have a deal with Amazon Prime, Disney, etc. and you paid 6.50 for both, I think people would be pretty happy.

Which was my point that unless and until a way for wwe to shut down the international wwe network it’s going to stay up and running and the peacock money in the states could probably fund the network going forward.

I’d be happy out if that happened actually. I’d be all for it but that may not happen. I’ve never looked at what peacock has to offer so its not on my radar.

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 10:50pm

Sad to see that Becky lynch’s father has passed away.

Lovely tribute from her to her dad on Instagram.

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ThePott · 11-03-2021 11:04pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Which was my point that unless and until a way for wwe to shut down the international wwe network it’s going to stay up and running and the peacock money in the states could probably fund the network going forward.

I’d be happy out if that happened actually. I’d be all for it but that may not happen. I’ve never looked at what peacock has to offer so its not on my radar.

Ah apologies may have misinterpreted your post. Yeah I don't think it's likely to happen anytime soon here. With Paramount Plus launching in America all the major players that want a streaming service have one and they're all hoping for something that will make them worth subscribing to.

Here we're comparably lucky with less streamers and any other major players are unlikely to launch here until existing deals expire and that could be years. I think the network will be safe for quite a bit in most of Europe imo. I don't see your Netflix, Disney or Amazon trying to get it here either.

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 11:30pm

ThePott wrote: »

Ah apologies may have misinterpreted your post. Yeah I don't think it's likely to happen anytime soon here. With Paramount Plus launching in America all the major players that want a streaming service have one and they're all hoping for something that will make them worth subscribing to.

Here we're comparably lucky with less streamers and any other major players are unlikely to launch here until existing deals expire and that could be years. I think the network will be safe for quite a bit in most of Europe imo. I don't see your Netflix, Disney or Amazon trying to get it here either.

Ah I probably worded it weirdly also. It’s just with nxt takeover being on BT sports it’s a weird departure but I don’t think it’s a sign of the death nail of the network.

I think they go in reverse in terms of how the network was launched and in what countries. So the US was first and then it was rolled out to other countries. It would make sense because I assume any new contracts had the network figured in in some way. I could be wrong but to me that’s the most sensible way to do it.

J. Marston · 11-03-2021 11:35pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Sad to see that Becky lynch’s father has passed away.

Lovely tribute from her to her dad on Instagram.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/CMSnp5XhD0o/?igshid=1kb52ixdg28yw[/URL]

Given Seth and Becky's recent arrival and the travelling restrictions, that's just extremely cruel and sad.

RIP.

Itssoeasy · 11-03-2021 11:37pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Given Seth and Becky's recent arrival and the travelling restrictions, that's just extremely cruel and sad.

RIP.

Yeah she mentions that and **** it Covid has robbed people of so many things.

Necro · 11-03-2021 11:44pm

ThePott wrote:

I don't think any of this means anything for PPVs here for now. ESPN PPVs for UFC haven't changed PPVs over here, they're still free on BT Sport, no? I'm talking purely as a consumer in America, Peacock is a better choice for consumers, IMO.

Just on this point, they absolutely do charge for certain PPVs for UFC and indeed all WWE PPVs on BT, the last McGregor fight was 22 quid iirc. I think Fastlane is being pushed hard at the moment at 14.95 (20 euro I think).

Tbh if the Network disappeared and it went back to the Box Office model I wouldn't be watching them live any more.

ThePott · 12-03-2021 12:22am

Necro wrote: »

Just on this point, they absolutely do charge for certain PPVs for UFC and indeed all WWE PPVs on BT, the last McGregor fight was 22 quid iirc. I think Fastlane is being pushed hard at the moment at 14.95 (20 euro I think).

Tbh if the Network disappeared and it went back to the Box Office model I wouldn't be watching them live any more.

Huh, didn't realise that for UFC there was a stage it was no extra charge I'm sure. I know the WWE PPV model still exists, remember that from Sky but didn't think it was ever a viable option, could never see it coming back in full swing people just wouldn't pay it and rightfully so tbh.

Necro · 12-03-2021 12:28am

ThePott wrote: »

Huh, didn't realise that for UFC there was a stage it was no extra charge I'm sure. I know the WWE PPV model still exists, remember that from Sky but didn't think it was ever a viable option, could never see it coming back in full swing people just wouldn't pay it and rightfully so tbh.

Yeah it's there for what they consider the 'mega fights' (though I would argue strongly against the last McGregor one as being considered this at any stage lol)

It's an absolute pain in the hoop there are so many subscription services nowadays

Sky and BT, Box Office
Netflix, Disney, Amazon
Fite TV if you want AEW stuff
WWE Network for now

I've actually got a free Peacock account myself as well as All4 on the go presently too

Subscriptions up the wazzoo, it's mental!

ThePott · 12-03-2021 12:44am

Necro wrote: »

Yeah it's there for what they consider the 'mega fights' (though I would argue strongly against the last McGregor one as being considered this at any stage lol)

It's an absolute pain in the hoop there are so many subscription services nowadays

Sky and BT, Box Office
Netflix, Disney, Amazon
Fite TV if you want AEW stuff
WWE Network for now

I've actually got a free Peacock account myself as well as All4 on the go presently too

Subscriptions up the wazzoo, it's mental!

Ah right, last time I watched a UFC card live was some time ago and I've never had BT just going off friends really.

It's mad alright, I've found a few workarounds to get good value for streaming but in general it is just become TV packages again. I've Netflix, Disney, Amazon, Hulu, HBO Max and Peacock at the moment. WWE Network I cycle in and out, most expensive of the bunch too.

beakerjoe · 12-03-2021 1:29am

Necro wrote: »

Yeah it's there for what they consider the 'mega fights' (though I would argue strongly against the last McGregor one as being considered this at any stage lol)

It's an absolute pain in the hoop there are so many subscription services nowadays

Sky and BT, Box Office
Netflix, Disney, Amazon
Fite TV if you want AEW stuff
WWE Network for now

I've actually got a free Peacock account myself as well as All4 on the go presently too

Subscriptions up the wazzoo, it's mental!

I never notice AEW as it gets paid via my phone credit top up with Threepay. I never use my phone credit as its all you can eat data, so the 5 bucks a month is never noticed.

I didnt even have to pay for AEW Revolution due to Fite credits. I was about to pay until I noticed I had 20 dollars worth of Fite credit.

beakerjoe · 12-03-2021 1:30am

ThePott wrote: »

Ah right, last time I watched a UFC card live was some time ago and I've never had BT just going off friends really.

It's mad alright, I've found a few workarounds to get good value for streaming but in general it is just become TV packages again. I've Netflix, Disney, Amazon, Hulu, HBO Max and Peacock at the moment. WWE Network I cycle in and out, most expensive of the bunch too.

What VPN do you use for Peacock and HBO Max.... Ive been considering them awhile now.

J. Marston · 12-03-2021 2:32am

Big Show left because WWE wanted to book him sensibly...

Once he finally completed rehab and had a clean bill of health from all of his prior injuries throughout the years, WWE’s Talent and Relations didn’t give him the welcome back celebration he expected. Instead, they informed him where his career was going to go moving forward.

“I got pulled into a Talent and Relations office,” Wight was told five years ago. “And [I was told] I will never main event WrestleMania again. I will never main event a pay-per-view again. And I will only be used to get over NXT talent. That was said to my face. There’s your f–king inspiration, now go work hard. Vince didn’t say it to me; it wasn’t him. But you know where it comes from. It hurt a little bit. It was like, is this really where we’re at?

“Again, I’m not making any excuses. I understand where they’re coming from. But they were trying to give me the heads up like, ‘Hey, you’ve done everything that you could do. You’ve had a great career. Maybe it’s time for you to start thinking about slowing down.’ F–k that, Jack!”

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/03/paul-wight-reveals-why-he-signed-with-aew-over-staying-with-wwe/

"Time to put over young fellas? Fúck that!"

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