Would you ever consider moving to continental Europe? And if so where?

bullpost · 11-03-2021 06:39PM

zweton wrote: »

What sort of price are we looking at for a decent 2/3 bed apt there roughly?

I've been looking around €120,000 mark. Seems like decent selection .

seenitall · 11-03-2021 06:50PM

McGiver wrote: »

Let us guess the location! North Slovenia? West Slovakia?

Hehe I knew this would happen. In fairness, I’d be the same if someone set out some geographical parameters like that, I’m awful nosy.

I prefer to keep it private on here, but you’re really not too far off with one of them, of course. It goes under the general heading of Eastern Europe, anyway.

11-03-2021 06:58PM

McGiver wrote: »

Grumpiest rudest people, but alright.

Not my experience. I guess they were reacting to you.

*Shrugs*

irelandrover · 11-03-2021 07:02PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Are there many English language TV stations or networks in the Netherlands? Do cinemas used dubbed versions of films or Dutch subtitles.

BBC is available here. But shows aren't dubbed. They are all shown with subtitles. In cinemas you might have some movies dubbed but the majority are the original language.

It's really great when you move over as its easy to settle but it makes learning the language very difficult.

josip · 11-03-2021 07:06PM

McGiver wrote: »

Southern Norway (Oslo region), southern Sweden (Skåne) and eastern Denmark (Copenhagen) are drier and hotter in summer than Dublin and twice as much as South and West of Ireland - you can dream about that dry and warm summer in 80% of Ireland where it pisses all the time and you get 20 C.
I got serious sunburns there. Forest fires in Norway are common in summer now. 28 C easily. Nice, almost, proper summer.

Yes, winter is much colder, but you've four seasons. And you can go skiing and play ice-hockey

And in Goteburg in November there were days when the fog didn't clear and the street lights never went out.
I found that tough.
Did ye get the same sea fog up north?

Mad_maxx · 11-03-2021 07:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not my experience. I guess they were reacting to you.

*Shrugs*

I found Hungarians to be the rudest and surliest people I've ever met

The women have terrific racks though

yagan · 11-03-2021 07:12PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I found Hungarians to be the rudest and surliest people I've ever met

The women have terrific racks though

I remember Budapest being referred to as Bootypest after the fall of the wall.

Great city, great architecture, but yeah, the people.... Mind you the Hungarians I know in Ireland are all lovely, but all applied for their Irish citizenship as soon as they qualified as they don't trust Orban to not get Hungary suspended from the EU.

ancapailldorcha · 11-03-2021 07:13PM

irelandrover wrote: »

BBC is available here. But shows aren't dubbed. They are all shown with subtitles. In cinemas you might have some movies dubbed but the majority are the original language.

It's really great when you move over as its easy to settle but it makes learning the language very difficult.

I really like the cinema though. Would the likes of UK/US filmes be subbed?

irelandrover · 11-03-2021 07:15PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I really like the cinema though. Would the likes of UK/US filmes be subbed?

They are subtitled alright. Only problem is if there's another language in the movie you don't get English subs.

Although I think they had some showings now with English subs.

Jim2007 · 11-03-2021 07:19PM

Brian? wrote: »

A friend of mine has 2 Irish teenagers in normal Dutch school, they learnt Dutch in no time. But they actually got into arguments with Dutch English teachers about pronunciation. The Dutch teachers insisted they were wrong, despite them being native English speakers. The parents had to go to the school and tell the teachers to cop the feck on, it's called an Irish accent.

One of my daughter's best friends spent most of the her childhood hanging out at our house and and as result she speaks English with a Mayo accent and all the lingo. But she has never been to Ireland.

When she went to the UK, people kept asking where in Ireland did she come from. After a couple of arguments with people who would not accept that she was Swiss, she decide to go for it and started telling people that she came for Castlebar. She said she spent three weeks going around the UK, telling people she came from Castlebar and not one person called her out on it. Even Irish people accepted it.

ancapailldorcha · 11-03-2021 07:24PM

irelandrover wrote: »

They are subtitled alright. Only problem is if there's another language in the movie you don't get English subs.

Although I think they had some showings now with English subs.

Ouch. Not the end of the world.

CelticRambler · 11-03-2021 07:28PM

Strumms wrote: »

Having again lived abroad on the continent... take Paris. The summer was fantastic, average high during the summer months is 3.5 degrees warmer than here..

Ah yes - Paris in the summer. The city Parisians love to leave, because of the stifling heat, unbreathably polluted air, and infestation of tourists! :pac:

seenitall wrote: »

Pain, lundi, vingt cinq, bagnole. Am I right, do I win anything?? :P

And no, I’m not French, whether Alsatian or otherwise... why wouldn’t they understand a different accent, it’s still the same language..?

Yeah, it's the same language (on paper) but it's not helpful to tell someone that "it's pronounced like the word for bread" (or "boat", to take the earlier example) if you or the person you're learning from has a strong regional/local accent.

And I only chose examples to make that point; when you get into slang and patois, there isn't necessarily the same level of comprehension across a country. That's the premise of the movie Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis (some lessons from which I found very helpful when I was working and dancing with les Ch'tis a few years ago).

yagan · 11-03-2021 08:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think Malta would be a good option for Irish. Speak English, drive on left, warm and sunny

I really like Malta, fascinating history etc.. but I reckon the high density and the fact that everyone literally knows everyone would have me feeling very claustrophobic very quickly.

Brian? · 11-03-2021 08:07PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Are there many English language TV stations or networks in the Netherlands? Do cinemas used dubbed versions of films or Dutch subtitles.

There are no English language stations on TV. The films are all in English with Dutch subtitles. Except the kids films, where they'll have a Dutch and English version alternating show times

Brian? · 11-03-2021 08:10PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Somehow missed this. Life sciences.

There's a Philips healthcare here, a university and a college that could suit you.

Brian? · 11-03-2021 08:11PM

irelandrover wrote: »

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Brian lives in Eindhoven. When i first arrived people were a lot more open to speaking Dutch with you.

Now there are so many foreigners that there is almost always someone in the group who does not speak Dutch that English is becoming the first language in companies. Why would the Dutch person put in the effort helping your Dutch when likely they have to speak English with you 95% of the time anyway.

I do live in Eindhoven

Alun · 11-03-2021 08:14PM

Brian? wrote: »

There are no English language stations on TV.

When I lived there, in Veldhoven, we had BBC 1 and 2 on the local cable.

ancapailldorcha · 11-03-2021 08:14PM

Brian? wrote: »

There's a Philips healthcare here, a university and a college that could suit you.

Thanks. I've been having a bit better luck on LinkedIn. That does seem to be the site to check nowadays.

seenitall · 11-03-2021 08:17PM

CelticRambler wrote: »

Yeah, it's the same language (on paper) but it's not helpful to tell someone that "it's pronounced like the word for bread" (or "boat", to take the earlier example) if you or the person you're learning from has a strong regional/local accent.

And I only chose examples to make that point; when you get into slang and patois, there isn't necessarily the same level of comprehension across a country. That's the premise of the movie Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis (some lessons from which I found very helpful when I was working and dancing with les Ch'tis a few years ago).

The point I’m making is that, although there won’t be the same level of immediate comprehension as with someone from the same region as you, there really is a good and solid background in the, you know, the one and the same language thing, to build the comprehension from the context, if nothing else. Although the same words being pronounced differently really shouldn’t be some
insurmountable barrier to comprehension either (to say the least). As I said, with even the least amount of good will...

Which incidentally reminds me of a time in Paris where I, looking for a landmark, politely accosted a construction worker in the street: “Excuse me?” No reaction, nothing. He keeps shovelling in his ditch, I don’t exist. I walk on, only to change my mind a few minutes later, and go back to him, with a polite: “Excusez-moi?” Now, he stops shovelling, the head is up, I have his attention. That is some properly funny stuff, considering that “Excuse me” and “excusez-moi” sound almost the same for all intents and purposes!

So maybe you are thinking of this kind of person when talking about these great difficulties in understanding a different slang of the same language?

Brian? · 11-03-2021 08:45PM

Alun wrote: »

When I lived there, in Veldhoven, we had BBC 1 and 2 on the local cable.

Ah ok. I didn’t see it listed myself. I just use IPTV.

ancapailldorcha · 11-03-2021 08:46PM

Brian? wrote: »

Ah ok. I didn’t see it listed myself. I just use IPTV.

You could get BBC and ITV when I visited Ghent for training.

McGiver · 11-03-2021 08:56PM

Deleted User wrote:

Not my experience. I guess they were reacting to you.

No, they weren't. I insist. The rudest in Central Europe.
They're very different than the rest of central Europe. And that's something - Austrians, Czechs and Slovaks are all sort of rude in a central European way. Hungarians beat them all.

Mister Vain · 11-03-2021 09:03PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I found Hungarians to be the rudest and surliest people I've ever met

The women have terrific racks though

I'd have to agree. The staff in grocery shops and restaurants practically throw the food at you. It's not a place I'd return to in a hurry. Prague and Vienna are much better.

McGiver · 11-03-2021 09:03PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I found Hungarians to be the rudest and surliest people I've ever met

The women have terrific racks though

Agreed. Lovely people indeed, unless they're grumpy, complaining and rude, which is most of the time unfortunately. Else they're a lovely friendly lot, of course. Good wine.

But I've heard something about porn or somethin

McGiver · 11-03-2021 09:05PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

I'd have to agree. The staff in grocery shops and restaurants practically throw the food at you. It's not a place I'd return to in a hurry. Prague and Vienna are much better.

Better but still rude, for Irish standards

Shop assistants in Prague are like - why are you even here, I really want to die and not be doing this job at all [rolling eyes].

Strumms · 11-03-2021 09:07PM

CelticRambler wrote: »

Ah yes - Paris in the summer. The city Parisians love to leave, because of the stifling heat, unbreathably polluted air, and infestation of tourists! :pac:

They love to leave because of the stifling heat ? Unbreathable polluted air ? The majority head south where it is warmer ffs..Nice, Antibes, Cannes, Provence to name four

The air quality is relatively good for a capital city... neither Paris or indeed any French city comes in the top 500 cities in the world for air pollution, WHO will be back this... I don’t know why you are suggesting it would... given the prevalence of excellent public transport, metro, RER, trains, buses, trams, river boats... most polluting industries are outside the city too... car usage is not that big considering the population, a lot of buses are environmentally friendly, 100% of the fleet will be ecologically friendly by 2025.

Mister Vain · 11-03-2021 09:08PM

McGiver wrote: »

Better but still rude, for Irish standards
Shop assistants in Prague are like - why are you even here, I really want to die and not be doing this job at all [rolling eyes].

I thought the young people in Prague were friendly but the older people really don't like tourists.

McGiver · 11-03-2021 09:13PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

I thought the young people in Prague were friendly but the older people really don't like tourists.

Friendly yes but more like bored-desperate-disinterested is the right description.

And yes, older people are grumpy and passive-aggressive. If you're a foreign tourist it's even worse

11-03-2021 09:14PM

Strumms wrote: »

They love to leave because of the stifling heat ? Unbreathable polluted air ? The majority head south where it is warmer ffs..Nice, Antibes, Cannes, Provence to name four

The air quality is relatively good for a capital city... neither Paris or indeed any French city comes in the top 500 cities in the world for air pollution, WHO will be back this... I don’t know why you are suggesting it would... given the prevalence of excellent public transport, metro, RER, trains, buses, trams, river boats... most polluting industries are outside the city too... car usage is not that big considering the population, a lot of buses are environmentally friendly, 100% of the fleet will be ecologically friendly by 2025.

Still, though. You’d miss the sea.

McGiver · 11-03-2021 09:18PM

josip wrote: »

And in Goteburg in November there were days when the fog didn't clear and the street lights never went out.
I found that tough.
Did ye get the same sea fog up north?

Gothenburg vs Skåne makes a difference, but yeah winters are long and days short there I hear, the latitude makes a difference. I've always been in Scandinavia only in summer.

Would you ever consider moving to continental Europe? And if so where?

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