Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Crybabygeeks wrote: »

State of them... NPHET, Government, the whole lot of them. Unable to make a decision, no guts to make a call. Less than 400 people in hospital and they're talking about 2 more months. Absolute and utter madness.

Agreed. Its easy to state no easing of restrictions when you are not as affected as the general population.


Government ministers have no travel restrictions--Darragh O'Brien touring 9 counties promoting grants. Other ministers going on foreign travel. I accept some government business must be done in person abroad.


No loss of income, no working from home for 12 months.


And Leo joking on Newstalk this morning his hair is a mess.


They have no understanding that their words and actions have consequences.


The public are looking for leaders to led us out of this mess and there is no plan other than get vaccines and if the vaccine supply is compromised blame the supplies and just keep the pubic in lockdown.


Its not good enough 12 months on.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

To be fair no matter what they say or do you'd be giving out.

To be fair no matter what they say or do you'd be defending them.

Lockdown until March 5th we were told, then it got extended to April now May.. what’s to stop them coming out at the start of May and extending it until June? “We’re still not where we need to be”.. tbh that’s what they probably will do because the best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour. Bar two weeks reprieve in December, when May rolls around we will have been in level 4/5 lockdown for EIGHT MONTHS. Absolute lunacy.

RGS wrote: »

Having caught the last bit of Leo on Newstalk .

Denied that the government are looking at the 2000 cases a day route---stated they are not looking at specific figures.

Indicated end of April for possible further easing of restrictions including barbers opening, this despite the Irish Times report stating 23 May was the day for review and Martin indicating in the dail that review would be 6 weeks after the 5 april, that's the middle of may.


as usual leo just being leo.

And he had the cheek to suggest he should be careful about answering questions in case he could be accused of kite flying.

The government need to appoint one point man, and every other minister should just STFU, to discuss the matter.

When did he say April for barbers? He’s quoted at saying at least May in this article

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/tanaiste-leo-varadkar-gives-update-23674801

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Ah would you just go to the beach ffs

Exactly. Go to the beach. I often go running up the mountains on my own. It's about 12km from my house. Have been stopped three times. I explained to the Garda that I couldn't go running on the country roads it is unsafe and the mountain trails are safe and on my own. He let me go on not a bother. They are human aswell.

retro:electro wrote: »

Lockdown until March 5th we were told, then it got extended to April now May.. what’s to stop them coming out at the start of May and extending it until June? “We’re still not where we need to be”.. tbh that’s what they probably will do because the best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour. Bar two weeks reprieve in December, when May rolls around we will have been in level 4/5 lockdown for EIGHT MONTHS. Absolute lunacy.

They have already hinted at lockdowns next winter as a means to control other respiratory illnesses like the flu, so as not to overwhelm the health system. I hope at that stage the mass population will have had enough and hounded them out of government.

What really grinds my gears is how they repeatedly say 'we know how frustrating it is' and 'we know how hard it is'. Don't be so bloody condescending. They are not on the Pup, they don't have their business closed, they don't have to work from home, they don't have a 5km restriction applied. In fact bar being able to go to the pub or restaurant, their life is as normal as it ever was. Get to go to work each day, nice payrise for them aswell.

retro:electro wrote: »

Lockdown until March 5th we were told, then it got extended to April now May.. what’s to stop them coming out at the start of May and extending it until June? “We’re still not where we need to be”.. tbh that’s what they probably will do because the best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour. Bar two weeks reprieve in December, when May rolls around we will have been in level 4/5 lockdown for EIGHT MONTHS. Absolute lunacy.

Well exactly, and we’re supposed to believe that this is the last lockdown? Not a chance with such a weak gaggle of conservative, risk averse decision makers.

We’ll still have plenty of cases again come winter but cases don’t indicate actual sickness.

We’ll have to go through all this again come October/November.

W123-80's wrote: »

Personal insults and throwaway remarks relating to mental health. Lovely.
It's fairly depressing but not at all surprising that this post got 16 likes, from the same people screaming to open up and using mental health as one of the main reasons.

All happy to encourage and thank ignorant insults questioning someones mental health for simply stating a valid opinion, whilst screaming the govt are not doing enough about the mental health of the population.

The lack of self awareness is staggering.

If that is the level of debate we are at it's hard fathom where we go from here.

Spare us your faux outrage.
You dont care about people's mental health, you're just trying to score points on here by berating others' use of the world "mental".

You genuinely have to be mental to think that more lockdown to avoid more lockdown works or makes any sense.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Sounds pretty apt here, dont you agree?

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Well exactly, and we’re supposed to believe that this is the last lockdown? Not a chance with such a weak gaggle of conservative, risk averse decision makers.

We’ll still have plenty of cases again come winter but cases don’t indicate actual sickness.

We’ll have to go through all this again come October/November.

Conservatism: Using the power of the state to prevent citizens from travelling freely, interacting with one another, and engaging in commerce.

TonyMaloney wrote: »

No no, I completely agree with you.

I'm sure you're of sound enough mind to read an article on gript, judge it on its merits, and not get swayed by the rest of their far-right nonsense.
But on the off chance you share the article, can you say the same for those you share it with? What about the people they might share it with?

That's their plan like. That's what they're hoping for.

Absolute rubbish.

What about RTE? They wouldn’t stoop to such low standards that you just imagined Gript drop to?

They wouldn’t intentionally mislead the public would they? They surely have far more journalistic integrity than the evil right wing cult rag gript.

RTE have covertly worked with a biased, agenda driven bunch of scaremongers to rehearse “debates” on live tv.

They have consistently narrowed the spectrum of acceptable topics for debate in order to delegitimise any kind of alternative options.

They have continuously gaslit the public, exaggerating risk and placing all the blame on citizens rather than those who make decisions and spend our tax money.

And mark my words - they will terrorise the public all over again when this is over. They will cover all the damage that these endless lockdowns have caused and milk as much misery out of it as possible...”oooh look what we did...how did we let this happen...”

For the record I don’t read gript, I’ve always voted left but I’m grateful that they released those leaked emails.

At least SOMEONE is being actually held up to some kind of scrutiny in this ****hole country.

Graham wrote: »

Yes.

I understand how exponential growth works.

Can you point to data showing how opening hairdressers or click and collect will drive exponential growth?