9/11 The Truth!

Hobbes · 18-10-2003 06:24PM

Originally posted by utility_
dude you're beliefs are totally fúcked up. No way is GW Bush going back into office in 2004. Has there ever been a president as hated as him?

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/10/17/2118218.shtml?tid=103&tid=153&tid=99
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,59925,00.html

There is something to start you off on your way. Thats the new voting system going to be put in place for 2004.

For the previous election you can try looking at this...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1058767.stm

Or just do a search on US government settling out of court for denying a large number of black people to vote (due to a company in Texas whos biggest sponser is guess who?), or the reports of Florida police holding people at road blocks to stop them from voting, or the connections with Bush and the guys who voted him in.

DMT · 18-10-2003 06:46PM

That "F15" looks bigger than your average jumbo jet.... :f33r:

Stark · 18-10-2003 06:59PM

Bush is just a puppet in the grand scheme of things, he may not get back in, in 2004 but another republican party candidate will. For some reason, the democrats won't be opposing them next time round.

CuLT · 18-10-2003 07:56PM

Originally posted by k.oriordan
Bush is just a puppet in the grand scheme of things, he may not get back in, in 2004 but another republican party candidate will. For some reason, the democrats won't be opposing them next time round.

He'll change the constitution and make the governator the most powaful man eyvar.

Oh and yes its all a big conspiracy. With Mel Gibson at the heart of it.

Stark · 18-10-2003 08:54PM

With Mel Gibson at the heart of it.

Sure we already have Arnie, why not

Silent Bob · 18-10-2003 10:00PM

Originally posted by ColinM
Dustaz, silent bob, and other sceptics - don't think you are so clever by dismissing this by saying it's on the Internet, so it's probably just some crank mouthing off. Read it, take it on board, knock it about a bit internally for a while and see how it holds up to scrutiny after you do your own research.

Done, done and done.

Nope I still don't think there could be a conspiracy that big.

Bear in mind that the more co-conspirators there are the more likely a leak becomes (almost exponential growth I believe).

What I think it was, was a nasty, planned terrorist attack which was met mainly by incompetence from those 'in charge'.

And don't forget, that no matter how appealing a theory is, this is always a possibility...
<Terry Pratchett>
All these theories have two things in common: they explain the known facts and they are completely and utterly wrong.
</Terry Pratchett>

Webmonkey · 18-10-2003 10:02PM

Yes its all true.....www.911timeline.net is a better version, more detailed.

Listen for all those of you who have broadband...theres a 2 and 1/2 hour documentry on all this stuff....the most interesting thing you will ever read.

http://100777.com/media/911theroadtotyranny.asf

Basically it talks bout the World Order and how the sept 11th, Oaklahoming bombings were all funded attacks and let happen so the people of America would be scared and beg for protection. This is where the Identity cards and Microship Implantations come in.

"911: The Road To Tyranny"
http://100777.com/media/911theroadtotyranny.asf

Thats the video...great quality and believe me its worth the download. Its presented and written by Alex Jones

Webmonkey · 18-10-2003 10:10PM

Originally posted by Silent Bob

Nope I still don't think there could be a conspiracy that big.

It is all public, Did you know the FBI were caught red handed planting bombs in the World Trade centers in 1993? Check it up if you don't believe me.

The Media just won't publish this information because they are too afraid to go against the government. Wouldn't you? The video i posted there...Alex Jones got arrested in one stage but they never bothered making a big deal over it, no court case or anything, Why? because they didn't want to make big deal , no they wanted to keep it quiet.

Did you know that BBC have the document that The US GOvernment wrote to the FBI stating that any officer or agent that attempts to stop terrorism will be arrested without question. It is signed by Bush and is real. Check that up too, the facts and proof is all out there.
Remember late Trever Mc Donnald, there is beliefs that he was killed by the Americans because he got hold of inside information in the wars in Iraq....He was ment to have commited "Suicide" Face it people who would go out reporting bout Iraq war and Commit suicide? Everyone said he loved his job more than anything ever.

Oaklahoming bombings - Bill Clinton needed to bring in the Death Penalty for Terrorists......but no one voted for it....so things were bad so he needed to create a diasater to make people want it in...and it worked.
How could a van parked outside a building blow the whole front of it out? Not a van....scientists have prooving that even the top weapons by the militry wouldn't have being able to do that damage....no the FBI planted bombs in every story of the building...and FBI finger prints were all over it.

This also goes for previous happenings like Pearl Habour (The History channel admit that the US Had prior knowledge of this and didn't stop it, why?),

Download that video, it was never broadcasted or anything for obvious reason.....believe me it will be the best thing you will ever see.

Webmonkey · 18-10-2003 10:21PM

Originally posted by utility_
The most obvious flaw I can see in the theory, is that it would be almost impossible to keep this a secret. It would have to come out at some time. The sheer amount of people involved would be in the hundreds, if not thousands, and for all these people to knowingly kill so many people seems a bit unbelievable to me.

Isn't it out? It was out before it ever happened......(http://www.infowars.com/transcript_schippers.html)

People, the evidence is there, but the media won't cover it. Why? because they don't have the courage...they are too scared that they will lose everything if they do.
The public are fooled...and so are you if you believe that the government had no knowledge of it.

Come on think bout this. How could 3 planes, off course spend 1 and half hour in the air without getting scrammbled or shot down? A bit of common sense like. They even flew over the whitehouse....thats an automatic shoot down.

If they were real terrorists....why didn't they bomb the Indian Plant....that has being going for years and has enough radioactive chemicals to wipe out 20,000,000 civilians prematurly.

Did you know that the Bush signed a document publically part of the new world order....It bascially says that if you don't compile iwth the new world order, if you don't get microchip implanted into you, you are known as a domestic terrorists.....and the government has the right to go into your house....take anything they want and leave without saying they were there in the first place....This is all publically documented also. Check it out.

Just dont' be brainwashed by what the media say.

Silent Bob · 18-10-2003 10:24PM

Webmonkey, I'd like to introduce you to my friend William of Occam

Webmonkey · 18-10-2003 10:35PM

Originally posted by k.oriordan
Sure we already have Arnie, why not

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infowarsnews/message/161

mr_angry · 18-10-2003 10:40PM

Oh and yes its all a big conspiracy. With Mel Gibson at the heart of it.

I f*cking hate Mel Gibson! Do you realise that the man doesn't agree with the theory of evolution, and has said that all scientific evidence supporting it is "lies made up by scientists"?

Anyway, back on topic.

Remember late Trever Mc Donnald

I think you mean Dr. David Kelly, right? As far as I know, good old Trev is still going strong.

no the FBI planted bombs in every story of the building...and FBI finger prints were all over it.

I agree with Silent Bob. The number of people involved is on such a scale to make such a conspiracy unreasonable. I can't see that many Americans, no matter their political beliefs being willing to kill other innocent American civilians. I appreciate that the standdown.net highlights an incredible amount of issues, but I'd accuse those involved of sheer incompetence, rather than conspiracy.

why didn't they bomb the Indian Plant

I believe (in my opinion, only) that their mission was to strike at military and financial symbols of US power. Hitting the power plant would have just been ignorant slaughter, and the folks running this kind of business aren't ignorant. If they'd wanted to, they could have waited until New York was full to the brim with people, and then struck the towers. I think its therefore reasonable to assume that the towers themselves, as a symbol, were their real target, not the amount of people that were killed.

I think that if the people opposed to George Bush's regime really want to be taken seriously, they should stop jumping on every conspiracy theory bandwagon. Being led so easily astray by conjecture is as bad as watching Fox News. :f33r:

Webmonkey · 18-10-2003 10:45PM

Originally posted by mr_angry4

I think you mean Dr. David Kelly, right? As far as I know, good old Trev is still going strong.

Oh dear......sorry my head isn't running 2 good tonight....apologies.
check out that video tho if you can.

mr_angry · 18-10-2003 10:52PM

239 Megs is a bit hefty! I'll leave that download running overnight.

Anyway, I appreciate that the American government are doing things behind our backs which aren't in the best interests of the world as a whole. In fact, their reliance on fear is very, very disturbing in my opinion. But people who go overboard in suggesting that every atrocity every committed was encouraged or instigated by them are as bad as the propoganda-mongers themselves.

Webmonkey · 18-10-2003 10:58PM

Originally posted by mr_angry4
239 Megs is a bit hefty! I'll leave that download running overnight.

Anyway, I appreciate that the American government are doing things behind our backs which aren't in the best interests of the world as a whole. In fact, their reliance on fear is very, very disturbing in my opinion. But people who go overboard in suggesting that every atrocity every committed was encouraged or instigated by them are as bad as the propoganda-mongers themselves.

Good man....that video is really good infernace.....well worth the download.
I'm not going to say anymore now because i admit its getting 2 my head....its fustrating trying to explain all of it and people think your cracked...so all i ask....
Download that video if you can: http://100777.com/media/911theroadtotyranny.asf
www.infowars.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infowarsnews/
and... www.911timeline.net (Most comprehensive minute by minute timeline of Sept 11th)

I'm sure most of you that check up and research that...and watch the documentry will have different views on things.

Have fun'

sharkman · 18-10-2003 10:58PM

Originally posted by Webmonkey
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Did you know that BBC have the document that The US GOvernment wrote to the FBI stating that any officer or agent that attempts to stop terrorism will be arrested without question. It is signed by Bush and is real. Check that up too, the facts and proof is all out there.
Remember late Trever Mc Donnald, there is beliefs that he was killed by the Americans because he got hold of inside information in the wars in Iraq....He was ment to have commited "Suicide" Face it people who would go out reporting bout Iraq war and Commit suicide? Everyone said he loved his job more than anything ever.

Trevor McDonald Live ...

http://trevor.skullthrone.net/

DeadBankClerk · 18-10-2003 11:07PM

Originally posted by Webmonkey
It bascially says that if you don't compile iwth the new world order

I actually heard about this. The way I heard was that Microsoft didn't want people using Linux (the hacker's operating system) and the GCC compiler. So they released the New World Order compiler that will only compile code for Windows. The made George W Bush sign the law that says if you compile with any other compiler you are either a Terrorist or a Hacker, so they implant you with a microchip.

With these chips if you leave the USA without getting permission from the FBI you will explode after you get 12 miles from the secret terrorist tracking stations.

This is all publically documented also. Check it out.*

* Like webmonkey, I don't actually know where this documentation is.

DeadBankClerk · 18-10-2003 11:08PM

Originally posted by mr_angry4
I agree with Silent Bob.

He is *always* right

:rolleyes:

Webmonkey · 18-10-2003 11:27PM

Originally posted by DeadBankClerk

* Like webmonkey, I don't actually know where this documentation is.

The USA Patriot ACT H.R. 3162 - http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html or http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.pdf

http://www.lewrockwell.com/edmonds/edmonds82.html

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15541

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20030217.html

its all there if you go to the bother of googling it

more....

THE NEW YORK TIMES

* * * * *

Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1

"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast"

By Ralph Blumenthal
......
http://truthseeker.realisticpolitics.com/faketerror/10.htm

DeadBankClerk · 19-10-2003 12:03AM

Not one mention of Microchips anywhere in those articles.
I'm not worried, because I already have one implanted (I'm not a terrorist or a Hacker).

I heard that they planned the 9/11 attacks using gnome and kde. Both linux tools.

Webmonkey · 19-10-2003 12:08AM

Originally posted by DeadBankClerk
Not one mention of Microchips anywhere in those articles.
I'm not worried, because I already have one implanted (I'm not a terrorist or a Hacker).

I heard that they planned the 9/11 attacks using gnome and kde. Both linux tools.

http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,50187,00.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/10/tech/main508641.shtml

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/020131a.asp

Want more? Why don't ye check these things up...

DeadBankClerk · 19-10-2003 12:18AM

Originally posted by Webmonkey
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,50187,00.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/10/tech/main508641.shtml

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/020131a.asp

Want more? Why don't ye check these things up...

Those articles are about some odd family who decided to get microchips put inside themsleves. I'm looking for where you came up with:

if you don't get microship implanted into you, you are known as a domestic terrorists.....and the government has the right to go into your house....take anything they want and leave without saying they were there in the first place....

How big are these microships? Are they wind powered? Or like little spaceships like in Inner Space?

Webmonkey · 19-10-2003 12:36AM

Originally posted by DeadBankClerk
Those articles are about some odd family who decided to get microchips put inside themsleves. I'm looking for where you came up with:

How big are these microships? Are they wind powered? Or like little spaceships like in Inner Space?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/edmonds/edmonds82.html ---

H.R. 3162, "The Patriot Bill," or the antiterrorism bill, might make you a terrorist. Any persons among us who have accepted that certain civil liberties must be abridged in time of war, or forever, for the sake of security, are going to learn Ben Franklin’s lesson the hard way: Those who would give up freedom for security deserve, and will get, neither.

First, the antiterrorism bill so loved by Congress and the White House has redefined terrorism. According to Sec. 802, (a)(5)(B)(ii), "the term ‘domestic terrorism’ means activities that appear to be intended to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion." Again: If the activity appears to be intended to influence the policy of a government – not just the United States government – by intimidation, it’s domestic terrorism. Most important: Since all we require is intimidation, how would we define that?

Its in other places 2....just read it

DeadBankClerk · 19-10-2003 12:38AM

Originally posted by DeadBankClerk
I'm looking for where you came up with:

if you don't get microship implanted into you, you are known as a domestic terrorists.....and the government has the right to go into your house....take anything they want and leave without saying they were there in the first place....

Webmonkey · 19-10-2003 12:47AM

Originally posted by DeadBankClerk

Was a simple spellerror, grow up :rolleyes:

DeadBankClerk · 19-10-2003 12:55AM

I just want to know where you came up with the notion that anyone who doesn't get a chip implanted in their body will be branded a terrorist.

Webmonkey · 19-10-2003 01:13AM

Originally posted by DeadBankClerk
I just want to know where you came up with the notion that anyone who doesn't get a chip implanted in their body will be branded a terrorist.

Read this:
http://atheism.about.com/library/legal/megiddo/bl_meg_contents.htm

I know it says nothing bout the Microchips but it will mean we going against the government if we don't accept NWO and that means we domestic terrorists

DeadBankClerk · 19-10-2003 01:15AM

So you lied about the microchips?

Webmonkey · 19-10-2003 01:17AM

Originally posted by DeadBankClerk
So you lied about the microchips?

Not really....lets just end this now....we going off topic really with all this crap. Just read it

just one more note.....
What i'm saying is If you go against the NWO you are known as a domestic terrorist according to Project MEGIDDO
and microchips are part of the NWO

sci0x · 19-10-2003 01:34AM

Originally posted by DeadBankClerk
So you lied about the microchips?

No he didnt. It talks about the microchips in the documentry he said to download above, the one that is 2 hrs and 30 mins.

9/11 The Truth!

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