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Annual Leave request

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  • 08-03-2021 12:01pm
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    stevek93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    This isn't a work issue more so a query, I cannot find an answer to it online.

    What is the notice period for annual leave? Is this up to the employer? Is there a threshold of how far the employer can go with annual leave?

    For example if I want a holiday next week and the employer say not enough staff no holidays allowed this month, can they do that?

    It has been advised to us by the employer due to staff shortages annual leave requests maybe refused, I want to know were I stand if I was to put in a request.

    Can they also take annual leave away that has been approved?

    Thanks


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    ec18
    Registered Users Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭ec18


    yup they can the employer needs to provide you with the opportunity to take the holidays but does not have to agree to every request


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    marty whelan
    Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭marty whelan


    stevek93 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    This isn't a work issue more so a query, I cannot find an answer to it online.

    What is the notice period for annual leave? Is this up to the employer? Is there a threshold of how far the employer can go with annual leave?

    For example if I want a holiday next week and the employer say not enough staff no holidays allowed this month, can they do that?

    It has been advised to us by the employer due to staff shortages annual leave requests maybe refused, I want to know were I stand if I was to put in a request.

    Can they also take annual leave away that has been approved?

    Thanks

    Taking annual leave
    The Act provides for a basic annual paid leave entitlement of 4 weeks, although an employee's contract could give greater rights.

    It is for your employer to decide when annual leave may be taken, but this is subject to a number of conditions. Your employer must take into account your family responsibilities, opportunities for rest and recreation that are available to you and to consult with you (or your union) at least one month before the leave is to be taken. In addition, annual leave should be taken within the appropriate leave year or with your consent, within 6 months of the relevant leave year.
    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/leave_and_holidays/annual_leave_public_holidays.html#


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    Dial Hard
    Registered Users Posts: 13,379 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    It's up to the employer how they manage leave requests. We've to give a month's notice for all requests, for example, and only one person on each account can be off at any one time. So even if I give the month's notice, if someone I share an account with is already off on any of my dates, I'll be refused.


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    stevek93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭stevek93


    ec18 wrote: »
    yup they can the employer needs to provide you with the opportunity to take the holidays but does not have to agree to every request

    Okay thanks but they need to be able to provide the full annual provide obviously within the space of 12 months I’d imagine.


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    stevek93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    It's up to the employer how they manage leave requests. We've to give a month's notice for all requests, for example, and only one person on each account can be off at any one time. So even if I give the month's notice, if someone I share an account with is already off on any of my dates, I'll be refused.

    Wow that sound harsh.


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    ec18
    Registered Users Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭ec18


    stevek93 wrote: »
    Okay thanks but they need to be able to provide the full annual provide obviously within the space of 12 months I’d imagine.

    Yes should allow you to use all it in a calendar year including two consecutive weeks. By agreement they can be deferred to next year.

    What's the issue you're having?


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    ec18
    Registered Users Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭ec18


    stevek93 wrote: »
    Wow that sound harsh.

    Fairly common, many employers have holiday periods or restrictions on how many from a team can be out at the same time


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    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭whippet


    stevek93 wrote: »
    Wow that sound harsh.

    that is fairly standard .. not harsh

    the word 'request' is there for a reason - you request Annual leave and it is up to the employer to either grant the request or refuse it.

    Businesses need to have adequate resources to maintain business - managing annual leave is part of this resource management.

    Most companies will be flexible with requests at short notice etc .. but will always reserve the right to reject a request if it overlaps with other's leave or at times when business demands the resources.

    Also - your employee handbook should have more details on the specific company policy


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    stevek93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭stevek93


    ec18 wrote: »
    Yes should allow you to use all it in a calendar year including two consecutive weeks. By agreement they can be deferred to next year.

    What's the issue you're having?

    There is no issue, just there has been an email sent saying we are short staffed and holiday requests may be rejected, I want to make sure I know the procedure of how holiday requests work if I need to take on in the near future say if one gets declined.

    Ultimately I want to keep a good relationship with my employer.


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    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,671 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    stevek93 wrote: »
    Wow that sound harsh.

    Harsh is making you plan leave a year in advance, and not allowing any changes after the plan is agreed. It happens in some companies.


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    stevek93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Harsh is making you plan leave a year in advance, and not allowing any changes after the plan is agreed. It happens in some companies.

    That seems to me poor management of teams and total disregard for employees needs my personal opinion.


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    Supercell
    Registered Users Posts: 15,322 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I look after leave in my place, allow holiday requests for next day as long as there is business coverage. Everyone can see the schedule so rarely have eejits requesting days off when there are already a few out. Treat people like responsible adults and usually they act that way in my experience.
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    stevek93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Supercell wrote: »
    I look after leave in my place, allow holiday requests for next day as long as there is business coverage. Everyone can see the schedule so rarely have eejits requesting days off when there are already a few out. Treat people like responsible adults and usually they act that way in my experience.

    That was the way my job was until a new manager arrived, if cover was adequate then you could have a holiday the next day. Now it is 2 weeks notice even if cover is adequate with the new manager. To me it appears that the new manager wants to put new polices in place but without reason as to why.


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