Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Interesting article this, it raises some good questions

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/03/02/so-is-joe-biden-a-nazi-too/

Is Joe Biden a Nazi? I only ask because he’s doing a lot of the same things that the previous incumbent of the White House did, and that guy was always being called a Nazi.

This is the Orwellian duplicity of the world we live in now. Political language, Orwell said, can be twisted ‘to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable’. And so it is that ‘kids in cages’ are now ‘youths in overflow facilities’; and bombs are now ‘quiet’ and ‘competent’ rather than reckless and dangerous; and what was denounced as a fascistic attack on the free press when Trump was doing it is repackaged as a necessary ‘reining in’ of ‘misinformation’ now that Democrats are doing it. Reality is putty to the new elites, something they must mould to their own tastes and interests. Their self-serving dishonesty and self-aggrandising propaganda must not go unchallenged.

You did this on your last shift. Answer was no then, still no now.

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Is Joe Biden a Nazi too ?

Interesting article
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/03/02/so-is-joe-biden-a-nazi-too/

Is Joe Biden a Nazi? I only ask because he’s doing a lot of the same things that the previous incumbent of the White House did, and that guy was always being called a Nazi.

This is the Orwellian duplicity of the world we live in now. Political language, Orwell said, can be twisted ‘to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable’. And so it is that ‘kids in cages’ are now ‘youths in overflow facilities’; and bombs are now ‘quiet’ and ‘competent’ rather than reckless and dangerous; and what was denounced as a fascistic attack on the free press when Trump was doing it is repackaged as a necessary ‘reining in’ of ‘misinformation’ now that Democrats are doing it. Reality is putty to the new elites, something they must mould to their own tastes and interests. Their self-serving dishonesty and self-aggrandising propaganda must not go unchallenged.

Tell me how wrote: »

You did this on your last shift. Answer was no then, still no now.

Did you even read the article ?

The final paragraph is

In answer to the question posed at the start of this article: no, of course Joe Biden is not a Nazi. But neither was Trump. Those of us who take a grown-up approach to politics know that it is wrong to brand everything as fascism. We also know it is wrong to abuse language and truth in order to depict yourselves as the good guys even when you’re doing exactly what the ‘bad guy’ did.

Tell me how wrote: »

Did you?

Do you disagree with the article that you introduced?.

I agree 100% with the content of the article.

Its plain to see that you are being disengenious as always.

Leroy42 wrote: »

That is all you've got? Nothing about the incredible job Biden has done, despite Trump actively refusing to help a handover?

Biden came with a plan, a will to work, and has achieved amazing results particularly in light of how Trump left things.

Just goes to show the value of real leadership.

At least be honest and acknowledge what a great impact Biden has had.

With regards to vaccines, I can't see how it would make any difference if trump was still in. The rate off vacination, like every other country, has been held back by supply. We now have America approving the johnson &johnson vaccine so there is another supply to tap into.

The acceleration is definitely good news, the world benefits from a healthy American economy.

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I posted it on the Trump thread which is different or supposed to be anyway...

Mr Potato got a reprieve, didnt you get the memo, Hasbro buckled and did a u-turn when they saw the backlash online.

I know that the crazy Q and Murdoch's US operation were all over this but aren't we a bit old to be worried about a corporation's decision about a toy for toddlers? Especially one where you can put a mustache on its head and a vagina between its legs?

mcmoustache wrote: »

I know that the crazy Q and Murdoch's US operation were all over this but aren't we a bit old to be worried about a corporation's decision about a toy for toddlers? Especially one where you can put a mustache on its head and a vagina between its legs?

Evidently, not if you're as obsessed with identity politics as some of the Trump supporters in this thread are.

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Don't worry. In his recent phone call with President Xi, he criticised China's unfair trade practices, changes in Hong Kong, human rights, Taiwan and lack of transparency on Covid-19. So much so, that Xi suggested new lines of communication to avoid confrontation.

A strong message from the new POTUS. Joe's got this.

Isn't that more Xi wanting a return to the Obama era approach which resulted in China being able to solidify its position rather than a sign that Biden is being tough.

The Chinese leader did make one concrete proposal in the conversation: Xi called for China and the U.S. to “re-establish the various dialogue mechanisms” between them. The previous Bush and Obama administrations held regular ministerial exchanges with China, first the Strategic Economic Dialogue, later expanded to the Strategic and Economic Dialogue in 2009.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/02/first-biden-xi-phone-call-shows-not-much-has-changed-in-us-china-relations/

The end part of this article that was written before the call, it highlights how talks and dialogue aren't necessarily a good thing for the American approach/

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/10/biden-china-relations-beijing-468168

“It doesn’t bother me at all if we don’t talk to China,” Miles Yu, who served as an adviser to former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, told POLITICO. “They have shown the U.S. again and again that talk is cheap and talk leads to nowhere.”

Personally I think Biden needs to draw some actual hard lines in the sand.

1- To publicly affirm that America will defend the Democratic rights and decisions of the people of Taiwan, remember he said back in the day that if Taiwan declared independence the US would not defend them AFAIK, there was a good geopolitical reason in the past for the vagueness as it was to keep China onside as the Soviet Union was the concern, the Russian Federation is nothing like the same potential threat in the present era.

2- Tie American aid both economic and militarily to support for America in the UN and other supernational organizations like the WHO

3- Warn of the conseguences for Chinese financial interests if China is not more open in relation to the pandemic and future pandemic reporting

4- Start investigations into the WHO, something like the way they managed to bring cases against FIFA officials shows the way forward, send a clear message that if your an official and you make decisions that aren't in the best interest of your official role due to financial or political concerns RE China, your going to pay the cost, rather than the current situation where China is willing to do that but the US isn't.

5 - Beef up military ties with Vietnam and India, more exercises with the JSDF.

6- Billion dollar question, what to do in relation to TTIP that achieves its goal but doesnt have American workers screwed.

I'm guessing all the people getting bombed in Syria are not thankful that Biden is POTUS.

Deleted User wrote: »

We don’t know if Biden is going to be more of an imperialist than Trump. I suspect so as that is the default US position. However he seems better on Iran so let’s give him a chance.

Does being better on Iran include bombing their proxies in Syria?

stefanovich wrote: »

Or maybe he'll go back to Obama's policy of sending planes full of dollar bills.

Pretty sure that was debunked..

everlast75 wrote: »

Pretty sure that was debunked..

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html

I see no retraction of this story.