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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    connachta wrote: »
    For once I'm ok with Wootton, made two good tackles which is nearly a 1st for my sight...
    He can be a complete winger!

    P.Sulivan outpaced most of the game though. Really slow pace. Can't see him re-signed losing 3 meters on a Trevisio winger in a short run twice or thrice...

    Wooten was absolutely terrible. He was probably the biggest reason Connacht didn't click tonight. He just kicked every ball to the opposition. And of course he looked defensively rubbish as normal.

    And you had no issue with Wooten. Jeepers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    ElisaAtWar wrote: »
    Wooten was absolutely terrible. He was probably the biggest reason Connacht didn't click tonight. He just kicked every ball to the opposition. And of course he looked defensively rubbish as normal.

    And you had no issue with Wooten. Jeepers


    He made two good tackles. Happy by that




    By the way maths say we're not yet european until tomorow 3PM,
    though, even if the unlikely scenario of BPs happens in the games,

    I can't see Scarlets winning in Thomond (probably needing a BP, too) AND Edinburgh getting 5 wins in a row with some BPs and away ones to Connacht AND Cardiff.

    Connacht are 3rd of the pool when Rainbow arrives!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Again we're above 10% of missed tackles

    but we have Dowling/Boyle/Butler saving our ass doing more than 10 missing none! Each!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    4 points that's what matters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Not a mention this morning on RTE radio sport of Connachts win over Bennaton now if it was Leinster shameful carry on, well done great win


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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,289 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Not a mention this morning on RTE radio sport of Connachts win over Bennaton now if it was Leinster shameful carry on, well done great win

    Great win???

    Jeez did you see the game? A fully loaded connacht limped over the line against Treviso seconds.

    Really not much to write home about.

    Take the four and move on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Great win???

    Jeez did you see the game? A fully loaded connacht limped over the line against Treviso seconds.

    Really not much to write home about.

    Take the four and move on




    Buckley
    Heff
    Roux
    Dillane
    SOB
    Carty
    Farrell
    Arnold
    Porch


    Would be Connacht firsts




    Many of these picked yesterday were not far at all, I'm not saying it was a "A" team, but clearly not our main XV. Only our back-row was used to play together, I understand disruption and conservativeness in our style yesterday. Treviso weren't totally poor either.
    Good 4 points. No more but no less


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,289 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Every team has injuries.

    "Fully loaded" means as strong as possible. Connachts 23 yesterday was as strong as possible bar dillane and heffernan.
    Coming out of Treviso with a last minute win against a team who are now zero for twelve is nothing to be happy about.

    Connacht have some serious issues which need addressing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    connachta wrote: »
    Buckley
    Heff
    Roux
    Dillane
    SOB
    Carty
    Farrell
    Arnold
    Porch


    Would be Connacht firsts




    Many of these picked yesterday were not far at all, I'm not saying it was a "A" team, but clearly not our main XV. Only our back-row was used to play together, I understand disruption and conservativeness in our style yesterday. Treviso weren't totally poor either.
    Good 4 points. No more but no less

    Treviso were pretty good, scrums, lineout, defence all solid, just a bit blunt in attack, they should have put us away. Last night's team would be closer to my first choice than yours, only roux, carty, Farrell and porch missing for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Every team has injuries.

    "Fully loaded" means as strong as possible. Connachts 23 yesterday was as strong as possible bar dillane and heffernan.
    Coming out of Treviso with a last minute win against a team who are now zero for twelve is nothing to be happy about.

    Connacht have some serious issues which need addressing




    Clealy not strong as possibe in the starting XV


    I do not disagree with matters needing to be adressed.
    Lineout (we can't blame Heff throwig only), tunovers, and above all defence out wide, very worrying


    Maul (defence and attack) looks better over the last 2 games, though, work in progress.

    Friend, IMO, prepares now a very exciting period maturing young guns like Aungier, Duggan, Murray, Sullivan/Kilgallen, S.Masterson
    Building a squad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Every team has injuries.

    "Fully loaded" means as strong as possible. Connachts 23 yesterday was as strong as possible bar dillane and heffernan.
    Coming out of Treviso with a last minute win against a team who are now zero for twelve is nothing to be happy about.

    Connacht have some serious issues which need addressing

    We were crap last night but we won our fifth straight away from home.

    Issues are not as serious as you’re making them out. Work to do on defence but tear the playbook up, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    its_phil wrote: »
    We were crap last night but we won our fifth straight away from home.

    Issues are not as serious as you’re making them out. Work to do on defence but tear the playbook up, no.

    There was no playbook last night bar kick for territory. In the first half we were throwing it around, trying offloads that weren't on, without doing the hard work first to create the space needed to do that. The second half we just kicked back to them over and over. Treviso played all the rugby in that half. Bar the first and last 2 minutes of the half I don't think I've ever been as bored watching Connacht.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Zzippy wrote: »
    There was no playbook last night bar kick for territory. In the first half we were throwing it around, trying offloads that weren't on, without doing the hard work first to create the space needed to do that. The second half we just kicked back to them over and over. Treviso played all the rugby in that half. Bar the first and last 2 minutes of the half I don't think I've ever been as bored watching Connacht.

    Yeah you’d wonder how not having Andy Friend there affected them.

    Treviso kept pinning us back and we were scared of our lives to lose the ball and concede a penalty. That’s where Jack would have brought some assurance. I nearly thought we’d be better to concede a score earlier to try get some territory as it was just line outs down the right side of the pitch from 60 to 75 minutes. When Treviso did carry, we were afraid to poach and give away a penalty.

    Treviso suffocated us with a simple plan during that period and deserve credit as we were uncomfortable. That needs work.

    The Boyle knock on 5m out was a killer for momentum. Probably get out with a bonus point if we score there. Then the turnover penalty on their 10m, we went into our shells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Now pure maths
    Connacht in ChampCup!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭lenny4545


    its_phil wrote: »
    Yeah you’d wonder how not having Andy Friend there affected them.

    Treviso kept pinning us back and we were scared of our lives to lose the ball and concede a penalty. That’s where Jack would have brought some assurance. I nearly thought we’d be better to concede a score earlier to try get some territory as it was just line outs down the right side of the pitch from 60 to 75 minutes. When Treviso did carry, we were afraid to poach and give away a penalty.

    Treviso suffocated us with a simple plan during that period and deserve credit as we were uncomfortable. That needs work.

    The Boyle knock on 5m out was a killer for momentum. Probably get out with a bonus point if we score there. Then the turnover penalty on their 10m, we went into our shells.

    Why wasn't friend there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Former academy centre Kieran Joyce has signed for Seattle Seawolves in MLR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    lenny4545 wrote: »
    Why wasn't friend there?

    Did his knee during the week according to Galway Bay FM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    its_phil wrote: »
    Did his knee during the week according to Galway Bay FM




    That proves we have a serious injury crisis for centres, Friend trained to cover there...:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    knock knock
    who's there?
    European Champions Cup qualified!!! :D


    On a ponderation stance, we have to bear in mind we've beaten Leinster A, Treviso A, Cardiff A, Dragons, Zebre which matters but less meanignful than Munster, Ulster, Scarlets, Bristol, which were all defeats. Only Edinburgh and Racing were performances in which Connacht can calibrate a real good level.

    To be clear I'm not saying at all we're poor, just we've no positive indication against the bigger teams, and Saffers will be key test to where our young squad is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭lenny4545


    Anyone have any idea when Connacht will announce contract renewals?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭freyners


    lenny4545 wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea when Connacht will announce contract renewals?

    Judging by Alex wooten's comments I'd be surprised if a lot are not done or in the process of getting done already but probably will be announced in 2/3s over the course of a week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    https://www.pro14.rugby/statistics/players

    Was having a look here and found that Denis Buckley has given away the most penalties in the Pro14 this season (16). Probably a by-product of being a prop and playing in the majority of games, but is he generally considered an undisciplined player?


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,289 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.pro14.rugby/statistics/players

    Was having a look here and found that Denis Buckley has given away the most penalties in the Pro14 this season (16). Probably a by-product of being a prop and playing in the majority of games, but is he generally considered an undisciplined player?

    scrummaging has always been buckleys downfall.

    his shape coupled with his binding style unfortunately gives a poor picture to refs when scrums go down, even when hes not the main fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    scrummaging has always been buckleys downfall.

    his shape coupled with his binding style unfortunately gives a poor picture to refs when scrums go down, even when hes not the main fault.

    The amount of poaching he does inflates that figure. He got penalised at least twice on Friday for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    https://www.pro14.rugby/statistics/players

    Was having a look here and found that Denis Buckley has given away the most penalties in the Pro14 this season (16). Probably a by-product of being a prop and playing in the majority of games, but is he generally considered an undisciplined player?

    Not sure about previously but he has given away a lot of stupid penalties this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    its_phil wrote: »
    The amount of poaching he does inflates that figure. He got penalised at least twice on Friday for it.

    He's not the same threat on the deck these days that he was ~2015, only one turnover in the league this year. Think he was one of the players who suffered when referees clamped down on jackallers putting their hands on the ground beyond the ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Munster A will also be facing Connacht A on Saturday at the Sportsground (12pm).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    My team for Munster:

    Buckley
    Delahunt
    Bealham
    Dowling
    Thornbury
    Butler
    Oliver
    Boyle
    Marmion
    Carty
    Wootton
    Daly
    Bundee
    Porch
    Toh

    Heff
    Duggan
    Aungier
    Dillane
    Papalii
    Blade
    Fitz
    Healy

    Would like to reward delahunt and dowling a good form, would prefer Bundee at 13 but likely to see that swapped. Big impact from the bench in Dillane, heff and papalii


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Wegians89 wrote: »
    My team for Munster:

    Buckley
    Delahunt
    Bealham
    Dowling
    Thornbury
    Butler
    Oliver
    Boyle
    Marmion
    Carty
    Wootton
    Daly
    Bundee
    Porch
    Toh

    Heff
    Duggan
    Aungier
    Dillane
    Papalii
    Blade
    Fitz
    Healy

    Would like to reward delahunt and dowling a good form, would prefer Bundee at 13 but likely to see that swapped. Big impact from the bench in Dillane, heff and papalii

    I'd give Boyle, Thornbury and Porch a proper rest, they need to be fit for CC round of 16 and Rainbow Cup


    I'd say it's now or never to test (with a start vs big team) either SOB 2.0 or Jennings because one of them will be in the senior squad next year... And Daly (desperatly) needs a game off


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Wegians89 wrote: »
    My team for Munster:

    Buckley
    Delahunt
    Bealham
    Dowling
    Thornbury
    Butler
    Oliver
    Boyle
    Marmion
    Carty
    Wootton
    Daly
    Bundee
    Porch
    Toh

    Heff
    Duggan
    Aungier
    Dillane
    Papalii
    Blade
    Fitz
    Healy

    Would like to reward delahunt and dowling a good form, would prefer Bundee at 13 but likely to see that swapped. Big impact from the bench in Dillane, heff and papalii

    Looks good to me. Could be spicy, with Connacht lads aggrieved at lack of Ireland squad inclusion. Looking forward to it. Hon Connacht.


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