EirSport secure the broadcast rights to the Guinness PRO14

bennyl10 · 04-05-2018 11:14AM

Hurrache wrote: »

I understand the financial benefits, but the fans need to be brought along with it.

Those already with Eir are doing great with this deal, but everyone else not so much. When I saw the deal for the UK I was thinking that's great, I'd buy into that right away.

But looking at the Irish deal and the cost to anyone not already in the Eir platform, and who may not like soccer, it's a costly ****ty deal. Did they even consider an IPTV platform for Ireland?

It's no more costly an sky sports though?

I see your point, but the vast majority aren't just rugby focused.

Also to get champions cup in the UK you need a second subscription to BT, while here eir is a all included..

Every provincial game in league and Europe in one place, not too bad a deal.

bennyl10 · 04-05-2018 11:16AM

awec wrote: »

Virgin's reason was Eir wanted to charge too much

Sky were willing to accommodate them, surely it's better for virgin to just give subscribers the option anyway?

awec · 04-05-2018 11:18AM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Sky were willing to accommodate them, surely it's better for virgin to just give subscribers the option anyway?

That was their public reason, I guess the real reason was Eir were unwilling to give Virgin a large enough slice of the pie.

roundymac · 04-05-2018 11:20AM

So whats available next season? Champions Cup on 3, total of 9 matchs, 6 nations on 3, anything on Sky?

Squidgy Black · 04-05-2018 11:22AM

I was working in another ISP when it was announced that they were no longer carrying BT and Eir sports, Virgin lost a ton of customers because of it. Never understood why they didn't just take it regardless of what rate was being offered by Eir, surely smaller profit and keeping customers is better than losing potential revenue and customers moving to competitors.

Hurrache · 04-05-2018 12:20PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

It's no more costly an sky sports though?

You can often get deals with Sky Sports, not always though, but you can time it for the season.

But I suppose my main point was that it was a perfect opportunity to basically offer tailored packages, or a deal similar to the UK one.

I know I'm in the minority but the fact that it was whatever soccer games is not interest in me, so I'll be basically be paying for a channel that never gets used for the majority of programs it will show.

omb0wyn5ehpij9 · 04-05-2018 12:28PM

Hurrache wrote: »

You can often get deals with Sky Sports, not always though, but you can time it for the season.

You can also get deals on Eir and BT Sports too though. I have Sky TV (and specifically went for them over Virgin so that I could get Eir and BT) and pay a monthly subscription to Eir of 27.50 for the sports channels. I also had the option of paying 245 upfront for the year. In the black Friday sale last year, and the year before, a friend of mine bought a deal to add Eir and BT sport to his Sky package for 120 upfront for the year!

OldRio · 04-05-2018 12:29PM

roundymac wrote: »

So whats available next season? Champions Cup on 3, total of 9 matchs, 6 nations on 3, anything on Sky?

Eir which has BT as part of the package will have Pro14. Aviva Premiership from England. Champions Cup. Schools semis and finals.
Sky have Top 14 from France and Super Rugby. Some Autumn Internationals
No doubt I've missed a few but Freesat for the 6 nation's and Eir is the way to go if at all possible.

eagle eye · 04-05-2018 12:40PM

Eir is awful, I'm actually disappointed to hear they got the rights to the Pro 14. I'd much rather that a professional sports channels had it over these buffoons.

bennyl10 · 04-05-2018 01:34PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Eir is awful, I'm actually disappointed to hear they got the rights to the Pro 14. I'd much rather that a professional sports channels had it over these buffoons.

eir sport isnt that bad..
the telecom end fine, but they can only be praised for the amount they're willing to pump into rugby, with the pro14, and the world cup, along with all the schools,

their coverage has improved greatly this year!

irishfeen · 04-05-2018 01:36PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

eir sport isnt that bad..
the telecom end fine, but they can only be praised for the amount they're willing to pump into rugby, with the pro14, and the world cup, along with all the schools,

their coverage has improved greatly this year!

Eirsport 1 in SD on Sky is very amateurish not to mention their new studio not being broadcast in native HD on EirSport2 HD is actually embarrassing for a subscription broadcaster.

OldRio · 04-05-2018 01:44PM

To be fair to Eir, TV3 only broadcasts in HD to those willing to pay a subscription.

icdg · 04-05-2018 01:50PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Sky were willing to accommodate them, surely it's better for virgin to just give subscribers the option anyway?

Just on this one, eir Sport are not strictly speaking part of the Sky platform. They are available on the Astra satellite and have their channels listed on the Sky EPG (which under Ofcom direction Sky are required to provide access to at a standard rate card) and utilise Sky’s conditional access system (again on a standard rate card). But they are not part of a Sky package. You will not see them listed on Sky.com and if you want to subscribe you must call eir Sport directly and give them your Sky viewing card details, Sky cannot add it to your package. BT works the same in the UK but this will change next year when a wholesale deal comes into force (which won’t cover Ireland).

techdiver · 04-05-2018 02:13PM

The sooner the bring in sports packages like NFL pass the better.

Sick of paying for whole sports packages when the only thing I watch are rugby and golf and FTA GAA.

I'd much rather by a rugby pass and a golf pass and feck the rest.

Tigerandahalf · 04-05-2018 02:35PM

icdg wrote: »

Just on this one, eir Sport are not strictly speaking part of the Sky platform. They are available on the Astra satellite and have their channels listed on the Sky EPG (which under Ofcom direction Sky are required to provide access to at a standard rate card) and utilise Sky’s conditional access system (again on a standard rate card). But they are not part of a Sky package. You will not see them listed on Sky.com and if you want to subscribe you must call eir Sport directly and give them your Sky viewing card details, Sky cannot add it to your package. BT works the same in the UK but this will change next year when a wholesale deal comes into force (which won’t cover Ireland).

Would it be possible for Freesat to carry these channels?

Cookiemunster · 04-05-2018 03:01PM

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Would it be possible for Freesat to carry these channels?

Freesat is UK based. It's not officially available in Ireland, so Eir Sport can't put their package on it.

Tigerandahalf · 04-05-2018 03:08PM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Freesat is UK based. It's not officially available in Ireland, so Eir Sport can't put their package on it.

Ya I know that.
I was just wondering if we would ever see the day where a subscription channel was carried on the freesat satellite platform.
I know Freesat cleared the way for subscriptions to be on the platform but it is only in the form of apps like Netflix and Rakuten tv.

It would mean not having to pay around €50 to sky to get an entertainment bundle before you even add on the Eir sub of €27.50 or whatever it is.

icdg · 04-05-2018 03:54PM

Well, the point of Freesat, is, you know, that it’s free. A conditional access system isn’t part of its specification.

icdg · 04-05-2018 04:43PM

I should just add though, that you don’t have to have any Sky package to take eir Sport on satellite. If you have a Sky digibox and any sort of valid Sky viewing card (including one in which the Sky TV subscription is expired) that is enough for eir to activate the subscription. It’s not like Sky Sports where you need to take the Original Bundle first.

Setanta used to be able to order you a Sky viewing card if you didn’t have one already, though I gather eir won’t do that anymore.

Tigerandahalf · 04-05-2018 05:04PM

icdg wrote: »

I should just add though, that you don’t have to have any Sky package to take eir Sport on satellite. If you have a Sky digibox and any sort of valid Sky viewing card (including one in which the Sky TV subscription is expired) that is enough for eir to activate the subscription. It’s not like Sky Sports where you need to take the Original Bundle first.

Setanta used to be able to order you a Sky viewing card if you didn’t have one already, though I gather eir won’t do that anymore.

That doesn't give a great viewing experience as you can't record or timeshift. I think Johnboy on another forum mentioned how the epg is a bit all over the place.

However it is definitely an option for a 2nd room where you might just want to watch the matches, provided you have a satellite cable feed going there.

icdg · 05-05-2018 09:12AM

So here is the TG4 press release.

https://www.pro14rugby.org/2018/05/04/tg4-to-boost-guinness-pro14-coverage/

While not explicitly stated, the wording “21 games across the regular season” certainly seems to support the proposition that it’ll be one game per regular season round and no play off coverage.

salmocab · 05-05-2018 09:19AM

I have vodafone tv and I understand for 25 a month I get Eir and BT sport, Im happy enough with that as it means I can see every Leinster match and any others that I want across both competitions. I have access to vodafone tv app but unfortunately my job has its IP address based out of England for some reason, I havent set up the app yet but will it be geo locked does anyone know?

Squidgy Black · 05-05-2018 09:27AM

salmocab wrote: »

I have vodafone tv and I understand for 25 a month I get Eir and BT sport, Im happy enough with that as it means I can see every Leinster match and any others that I want across both competitions. I have access to vodafone tv app but unfortunately my job has its IP address based out of England for some reason, I havent set up the app yet but will it be geo locked does anyone know?

Should be fine, here's the blurb on their site:
"Yes, as of 1st April 2018 for new subscribers, and by no later than 2nd June 2018 for existing subscribers, if you are temporarily outside Ireland and in another EU Member State you are permitted to access and use the TV Anywhere App in that Member State. Please see terms and conditions at vodafone.ie/terms for further details"

dublinman1990 · 06-05-2018 03:22PM

icdg wrote: »

So here is the TG4 press release.

https://www.pro14rugby.org/2018/05/04/tg4-to-boost-guinness-pro14-coverage/

While not explicitly stated, the wording “21 games across the regular season” certainly seems to support the proposition that it’ll be one game per regular season round and no play off coverage.

It's also looking likely that for the Welsh games; S4C will continue to get coverage of the PRO14 rugby in Wales albeit I presume with Welsh commentary.

ScrubsfanChris · 06-05-2018 04:40PM

dublinman1990 wrote: »

It's also looking likely that for the Welsh games; S4C will continue to get coverage of the PRO14 rugby in Wales albeit I presume with Welsh commentary.

They have an English commentary option for every game. Works on freesat and sky.

Tigerandahalf · 06-05-2018 05:06PM

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

They have an English commentary option for every game. Works on freesat and sky.

They won't have English commentary with the new deal.
A similar arrangement is in place for Wales' soccer games where s4c provide welsh medium coverage only with Sky having English rights.

Douglas Eegit · 02-03-2021 03:35PM

End of Season is nearly here and with that comes a new TV Deal for the new season.

Has anyone heard if Eir are getting in there with an almost exclusive broadcast deal?

awec · 02-03-2021 04:31PM

Douglas Eegit wrote: »

End of Season is nearly here and with that comes a new TV Deal for the new season.

Has anyone heard if Eir are getting in there with an almost exclusive broadcast deal?

It will all depend on what happens with the UK rights.

realhorrorshow · 02-03-2021 05:57PM

awec wrote: »

It will all depend on what happens with the UK rights.

Please God no more Premier Sports. Their presentation is embarrassing and makes the league look like a joke.

awec · 02-03-2021 06:07PM

realhorrorshow wrote: »

Please God no more Premier Sports. Their presentation is embarrassing and makes the league look like a joke.

If Premier don't renew (a real possibility I'd have thought) then Eir most certainly won't renew.

EirSport secure the broadcast rights to the Guinness PRO14

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