Garden projects

Zebrano · 26-02-2021 11:06PM #1

So i thought id start a thread on the various garden projects i have planned

First up is the decking as its rotting.
My first thought was to replace it with another soft wood deck but i didnt want to be cleaning it and oiling it regularly.
So then i thought composite which i very nearly ordered but i couldnt live with the plasticness of it.
So i ordered yellow balau hardwood decking

ted1 · 26-02-2021 11:36PM

I’m contemplating adding a new patio area. About 3m * 7m.

Zebrano · 26-02-2021 11:47PM

IMG_2195 by stephen harborne, on Flickr

IMG_2196 by stephen harborne, on Flickr

IMG_2199 by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Zebrano · 26-02-2021 11:49PM

IMG_2193 by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Garden by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Zebrano · 27-02-2021 08:38AM

The plan is to extend it out to the end of the house on theleft in the picture.
Im also hoping to use hidden fixings so there are no screws or plugs visible.
Im also going to make my own furniture to match the decking.
I also have to chop up the old deck to bring to the recycling centre. ðŸ˜„

Lumen · 27-02-2021 08:48AM

Zebrano wrote: »

Im also going to make my own furniture to match the decking.
I also have to chop up the old deck for the fire.

I think it's illegal and dangerous to burn treated wood.

Calahonda52 · 27-02-2021 11:18AM

poor ventilation will be an issue if built back like the original

mloc123 · 27-02-2021 11:39AM

What are you planning to build the base from? I had looked at alu before, seems to be more available now

Zebrano · 27-02-2021 11:44AM

Calahonda52 wrote: »

poor ventilation will be an issue if built back like the original

Well i cant raise it any further otherwise the doors wont open. And im not digging the ground up.
The timbers that were in direct contact with the ground are still solid and its down about 12 years. It was down in that front corner that rotted. Possibly because the gutter was overflowing on to it.

Zebrano · 27-02-2021 11:47AM

mloc123 wrote: »

What are you planning to build the base from? I had looked at alu before, seems to be more available now

I got microshades softwood 4x2s. It cost 12 euro a length. The hardwood frame was coming in at over 3times that so i just couldnt do it. As was the composite joists. I might creasode the joists to give further protection.

rje66 · 28-02-2021 09:19AM

Zebrano wrote: »

IMG_2193 by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Garden by stephen harborne, on Flickr

These black fixings are for composite deck boards, that have a groove alonge edge.

Zebrano · 28-02-2021 10:57AM

rje66 wrote: »

These black fixings are for composite deck boards, that have a groove alonge edge.

Yea im aware. Im going to put a groove in the side of the hardwood with a biscuit jointer.

muffler · 28-02-2021 12:30PM

Just like the old decking you are covering the manhole which isnt a great idea. Or have you factored this in?

Zebrano · 28-02-2021 07:11PM

muffler wrote: »

Just like the old decking you are covering the manhole which isnt a great idea. Or have you factored this in?

Yea ive been thinking about what to do with that alright.
The feeling is to just cover it as it been under there a long time and not caused any problems. Worst case scenario ive to lift a few boards i guess.

rje66 · 28-02-2021 08:22PM

muffler wrote: »

Just like the old decking you are covering the manhole which isnt a great idea. Or have you factored this in?

Just leave a trap door the width of the joists and 3 -4 deck boards wide. Saves lifting a whole board.

Zebrano · 28-02-2021 09:07PM

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr
This hole was left when the sunroom was built so i filled it in today so it would be solid to put the deck on

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Fine Cheers · 28-02-2021 09:11PM

Mulling over something similar but budget limited. Did you consider keeping sub frame ? What sort of condition was sub frame in ? Only a couple of my boards starting to rot so could replace, down around 15 years. Needs a face-lift so might use Roseal rescue paint. Are you putting a railing on edge ? Good idea for accessing manhole - just set out joists to suit.

Zebrano · 28-02-2021 09:35PM

DIY KING wrote: »

Mulling over something similar but budget limited. Did you consider keeping sub frame ? What sort of condition was sub frame in ? Only a couple of my boards starting to rot so could replace, down around 15 years. Needs a face-lift so might use Roseal rescue paint. Are you putting a railing on edge ? Good idea for accessing manhole - just set out joists to suit.

Didnt really think about it i guess.
Some of it that i could see was quiet rotten so i just ripped it all up.
I want to have as little cut boards as i can.

Zebrano · 06-03-2021 10:26PM

So i started to make my garden furniture today

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

The plan is to paint it this colour with a top made of decking boards

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

mloc123 · 08-03-2021 05:05PM

Zebrano wrote: »

So i started to make my garden furniture today

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

The plan is to paint it this colour with a top made of decking boards

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

I'd love to be able to weld

Fine Cheers · 08-03-2021 07:14PM

Ah here, surely DIY projects don't include doing your own welding.....;)
Fair play that looks a great job. Keep us posted.

Lumen · 08-03-2021 07:47PM

DIY KING wrote: »

Ah here, surely DIY projects don't include doing your own welding.....;).

Too right. Metal components must be joined with Tec 7.

Dr_Colossus · 08-03-2021 08:28PM

Heavy duty frame, that certainly won't be blowing over in the wind.
Are you thinking of getting it hot dipped galvanised. Any holes planned in the cross section to let water drain.
Proabably won't see too much water with it covered in decking boards so a good paint job should be as good.

Zebrano · 08-03-2021 10:29PM

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Heavy duty frame, that certainly won't be blowing over in the wind.
Are you thinking of getting it hot dipped galvanised. Any holes planned in the cross section to let water drain.
Proabably won't see too much water with it covered in decking boards so a good paint job should be as good.

Im going to be drilling a hole for a parasol in the middle so i think that will do.
https://biccs.nl/en/ this is the paint im using. its a 2k paint thats direct to metal so ill see how that goes

Zebrano · 08-03-2021 10:37PM

Mig welding isnt that difficult really. Its easy enough to pick up i think most peoples problems are because the get an inferior welder that isnt up to the job.
https://www.proweld.ie/product/swp-mig-210-turbo/?ppc_keyword=&gclid=Cj0KCQiAs5eCBhCBARIsAEhk4r4euuwznXSlbdoSdzcFrvit4h8TvQd-2HqBtQ8AKlMKeM39wYDdGbsaArYbEALw_wcB
This is what i have and it welds anything from 0.5mm up

08-03-2021 11:35PM

I've that welder too.
I think i got it for around 600 with gas & wire etc

Zebrano · 09-03-2021 10:26PM

BrownFinger wrote: »

I've that welder too.
I think i got it for around 600 with gas & wire etc

I got a similar deal about 6 years ago.
Worth every penny.

Zebrano · 09-03-2021 10:29PM

Started on the base today until the weather ruined progress

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Fine Cheers · 09-03-2021 10:54PM

Great stuff, love the progress photos. Feckin rain is a disaster.
Looks good, treating cut ends and all !!
Looks like your are nailing joists to each other ?
Nice cut on the joist at the plinth to facilitate existing ramp.
What way are you going to secure the block supports ?
Are you going to put a rail around it ?
We have one currently on ours and herself is thinking about (me) taking it out to allow flow into garden.

Zebrano · 09-03-2021 11:12PM

DIY KING wrote: »

Great stuff, love the progress photos. Feckin rain is a disaster.
Looks good, treating cut ends and all !!
Looks like your are nailing joists to each other ?
Nice cut on the joist at the plinth to facilitate existing ramp.
What way are you going to secure the block supports ?
Are you going to put a rail around it ?
We have one currently on ours and herself is thinking about (me) taking it out to allow flow into garden.

Thanks
I started cutting the long cuts with a jigsaw but it was taking too long so i dragged out the bandsaw.
I was just going to sit it on top of the blocks
Im not putting a rail up the old one had a rail and i took it down a few years ago and it completely transformed it for the better there will be a step around it

Fine Cheers · 21-03-2021 12:19AM

Any more photos ?
Are you planning to oil the balau decking ?

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