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Electricity prices with surge pricing in Texas

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    #32
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Das Reich wrote: »

    From what I had seen California is the state with the biggest amount of homeless.


    Outrageously, some states (both Democratic and Republican leaning) actually bus homeless people to places like California and Washington State. Got a homelessness issue? Send them West.


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    #33
    punisher5112
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    Yurt! wrote: »
    Outrageously, some states (both Democratic and Republican leaning) actually bus homeless people to places like California and Washington State. Got a homelessness issue? Send them West.

    We could do that here, much cheaper housing on Midlands or west. Put in the infrastructure and housing, much more bang for the buck....


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    #34
    Yurt2
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    We could do that here, much cheaper housing on Midlands or west. Put in the infrastructure and housing, much more bang for the buck....


    Not sure if you're actually serious.


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    #35
    punisher5112
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    Yurt! wrote: »
    Not sure if you're actually serious.

    No sure give them all 500 to a mill apartments or houses, that sounds about right, it's what's happening now...
    The inner city homeless charity doing very well they 4 vans now 15, 17, 20, 21 regs


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    #36
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    No sure give them all 500 to a mill apartments or houses, that sounds about right, it's what's happening now...
    The inner city homeless charity doing very well they 4 vans now 15, 17, 20, 21 regs


    OK...


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    #37
    Fr Tod Umptious
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Vote republican for decades and this is what you get. All of the poorest states in the US vote republican. Darwin awards, not sympathy are what's needed.
    People are leaving California, a solidly blue state, in their droves for Texas.

    There is a poster here, mainly in the politics threads, that lives in Texas.

    He/she is very good at articulating what life is really like on the ground in Texas and in American politics in general.

    Far more realistic than the usual hyperbole you get around here from people who have never been to the US in their lives.

    Hopefully they will chime in on this one.


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    #38
    Guy:Incognito
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    Ted doesnt seem so sure these days though.....

    Ted-1.jpg

    Ted-2.jpg


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    #39
    Cienciano
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    The way American politics works, seems like companies just donate to whoever is in power to change the law in their favor. It's fúcking mental. People get fúck all holidays and have very little social protection. If you question anything you're called a communist. Strange country


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    #40
    Zebra3
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    The way American politics works, seems like companies just donate to whoever is in power to change the law in their favor. It's fúcking mental. People get fúck all holidays and have very little social protection. If you question anything you're called a communist. Strange country

    And politicians can't proclaim their Christianity fast enough, yet they despise the poor, and are proud of it.

    It's long been in decline and the final collapse will be spectacular.

    With the amount of weapons in the country, it'll be more Yugoslavia than Berlin Wall.


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    #41
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Unsure if that's a pun or not.
    Is that a series question given the current issue ?


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    #42
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Why a Predictable Cold Snap Crippled the Texas Power Grid
    State health officials have linked more than two dozen deaths to the power crisis. Some died from hypothermia or possible carbon monoxide poisoning caused by portable generators running in basements and garages without enough ventilation. Officials say they suspect the death count will rise as more bodies are discovered.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-weather-texas-power-insight/why-a-predictable-cold-snap-crippled-the-texas-power-grid-idUKKBN2AL00N?edition-redirect=uk

    Nuclear plant offline because of frozen pipes. Gas plants off line because no gas. Wind was also affected.


    If Texas had been connected elsewhere it cold have imported power, but wouldn't have have needed to because winterised plant up to grid spec would have kept going.



    This wasn't a freak weather event and a major outage was barely averted.

    It could have been much, much worse.


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    #43
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    That guy probably had lights on all over the place, air conditioning, heating TV fridges freezers running round the clock. If he wasn't so wasteful it wouldn't be as bad.

    He'd need to have had a field of weed plants growing in a warehouse to rack up that kind of bill.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #44
    Tell me how
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    Most significant relevance in to last weeks events in Texas was how Republicans and their media wing used it to try to abort the Green New Deal before it has even been implemented.
    Read an article on Bill Gates and his view on the climate issue earlier today and when 50% of America is so steadfast against modifying the use of fossil fuels, it seems impossible that they are going to have the collective will to make the changes required.

    When you put some of the key points from the week together, it reads like some dystopian nightmare.

    Ted Cruz, the US Senator and his wife, the Managing Director of Goldman Sachs, took off to Mexico for 4 days when their house lost power. Ted previously voted against Federal aid for victims of hurricane Sandy but had asked Biden to provide this for Texas before he left. Some people who remained in Texas had to melt snow for house water and if they had power, were at risk of being on the hook for bills such as above. Meanwhile, the guy Cruz beat in his last election, Beto O'Rourke, organised 750K welfare calls and gave guidance to people in need and the Liberal 'Bogeylady' for most Republicans, AOC, initiated a charity drive which has just collectively raised $5M for Texan charities.

    But in the next election cycle, the electorate will once again be told that Liberals care more about immigrants than they do Americans and what is needed is a Republican who understands the hardship of the common man to fight for the people in Washington. As AOC was in Texas on Saturday, two prominent Republican congress people, Lauren Boebert and Matt Gaetz were attending a $10,600/couple fundraiser for a Republican senator at Mar-A-Lago.

    I bet that even now, some Texans would still prefer a system where a catastrophe can force such bills on people just so that it meant a government body had no say on how their electricity was supplied to them.


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    #45
    Randle P. McMurphy
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    Not an ounce of sympathy for any of them in that state. They are paying the price for ignorance and stupidity. You reap what you sow.


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    #46
    AndyBoBandy
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    If I charge my electric car from empty to full at home in Ireland, it costs me about €4.25, and I'd get about 400km of range...

    If I was in Texas last week and charged the same car at $9/kWh, it would cost me $450 to fill it up from empty!! (the typical cost to fill it should have been about $5-$7 in Texas 3 weeks ago).


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    #47
    km991148
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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    He'd need to have had a field of weed plants growing in a warehouse to rack up that kind of bill.

    Not anymore, these days the lights are very efficient.

    Bitcoin mining is now becoming the accepted term for high electric use!


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    #48
    jester77
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    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    If I charge my electric car from empty to full at home in Ireland, it costs me about €4.25, and I'd get about 400km of range...

    If I was in Texas last week and charged the same car at $9/kWh, it would cost me $450 to fill it up from empty!! (the typical cost to fill it should have been about $5-$7 in Texas 3 weeks ago).

    Doing the maths, your kWh price is €0.085. Is electricity really that cheap in Ireland :eek:


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    #49
    Smee_Again
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    jester77 wrote: »
    Doing the maths, your kWh price is €0.085. Is electricity really that cheap in Ireland :eek:

    My day rate including VAT is €0.1567 and the night rate is €0.751.


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    #50
    ancapailldorcha
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    Yurt! wrote: »
    Democratic states preside over just as much reflexive deregulation. People forget Bill Clinton was the man that put the bullet in "big-government" (shorthand for the state having a role in reigning in the excesses of the market and rentierism) and set loose the dogs of big-finance to dominate almost every aspect of the economy.

    America is crocked because both parties more or less subscribe to the same empty economic playbook. Perhaps Bernie would have made a stab at stopping some of the madness, but Sleepy Joe will just be tinkering around the edges of a nation and society in serious decline.

    It's not remotely both sides despite the Trumpsters constantly playing this card. One party is at least democratic, the other supported a coup. At least now, there's a president who can confidently say that Nazis and white supremacists beloved by the previous president are bad.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #51
    steddyeddy
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    The way American politics works, seems like companies just donate to whoever is in power to change the law in their favor. It's fúcking mental. People get fúck all holidays and have very little social protection. If you question anything you're called a communist. Strange country

    Yes and politicians like Mitch Connell rush to block legislation that would put a limit on corporate donors and make it possible to know who funds what.

    These states continually elect people that act against their best interest but never learn despite the consequences. I do feel sorry for those who didn't vote for Trump's party but not an once for those who didn't.


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    #52
    stefanovich
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Vote republican for decades and this is what you get. All of the poorest states in the US vote republican. Darwin awards, not sympathy are what's needed.

    A lot of the people in the poorest states have a much better quality of life.

    Are you implying people are poor because they are stupid? That's not very nice.

    Democrat run cities have high crime, high drug use and high prices.


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    #53
    jester77
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    Smee_Again wrote: »
    My day rate including VAT is €0.1567 and the night rate is €0.751.

    Nice, that is very cheap, I'm in Germany and my day rate is 28c. Too many green taxes


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    #54
    MadYaker
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    Essential utilities should always be regulated tightly. I wonder will any lessons be learned here? Doubt it.


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    km991148
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    MadYaker wrote: »
    Essential utilities should always be regulated tightly. I wonder will any lessons be learned here? Doubt it.

    What are you? A commie? Get outta here!


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    #56
    Feisar
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    km991148 wrote: »
    What are you? A commie? Get outta here!

    Joking aside is the Red Scare still a thing in the States?

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #57
    For Forks Sake
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    The way American politics works, seems like companies just donate to whoever is in power to change the law in their favor. It's fúcking mental. People get fúck all holidays and have very little social protection. If you question anything you're called a communist. Strange country

    That sounds like Commie talk to me


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    #58
    Zebra3
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    It's not remotely both sides despite the Trumpsters constantly playing this card. One party is at least democratic, the other supported a coup. At least now, there's a president who can confidently say that Nazis and white supremacists beloved by the previous president are bad.

    Both sides support American war crimes against dark skinned people.

    The Democrats are just less racist within the US.

    Two cheeks of the same arse.


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    #59
    ancapailldorcha
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Both sides support American war crimes against dark skinned people.

    The Democrats are just less racist within the US.

    Two cheeks of the same arse.

    Evidence please.

    A few months ago, the Democrats were looking to implement some sort of BLM/far left agenda. You can't have it both ways.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #60
    Zebra3
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Evidence please.

    A few months ago, the Democrats were looking to implement some sort of BLM/far left agenda. You can't have it both ways.

    You want evidence about support for war crimes from both parties?

    If the Democrats weren't so racist, there wouldn't be so many problems with racism in the US. It's not the fault of one party.


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    ancapailldorcha
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    You want evidence about support for war crimes from both parties?

    If the Democrats weren't so racist, there wouldn't be so many problems with racism in the US. It's not the fault of one party.

    None then. Grand so.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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