The Great Reset

15-02-2021 10:21AM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Have you read the book?

Throwing out a one line comment is a little deceiving. No context is provided, not is there any information about what economic development model she is speaking off, and what it would change to. What do you know about the economic development model?

It's not from the book since the book was published in 2020 and the statement is from 2015.

https://archive.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally

That article gives the context.

15-02-2021 10:36AM

PintOfView wrote: »

And do you really think that there is any possibility of what is described on that page happening?

Here is a quote from the end of the page
"Author's note: Some people have read this blog as my utopia or dream of the future. It is not. It is a scenario showing where we could be heading - for better and for worse."

Even the author is not saying that this will happen, rather what 'could' happen. For what it's worth I think that scenario is way off the mark, and is completely unrealistic.

There will be changes in the next 20 years, just has there have been changes in the past 20, but they'll happen gradually and in accordance with what the majority of people want. I can't see the majority wanting what that article depicts.

You should stop worrying, and not take all these things as stuff that's definitely going to happen. There are lots of people predicting lots of unlikely scenarios, and have been for years, probably thousands or years. The vast majority of those predictions failed to materialise, and this is likely to be just one more.

I'm not so sure. It looks like the government is planning to "delimit" private property:

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2020/21/eng/initiated/b2120d.pdf

"The State, in particular, recognises the common good as including the right to secure, affordable, dignified housing, appropriate to need, for all the residents of Ireland and shall guarantee this right through its laws, policies and the prioritisation of resources."

"The State, accordingly, shall delimit the right to private property where it is necessary to ensure the common good and to vindicate the said right to housing for all residents of Ireland."

Fighting Tao · 15-02-2021 10:45AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's not from the book since the book was published in 2020 and the statement is from 2015.

https://archive.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally

That article gives the context.

You are posting in a thread about, and arguing that there is a conspiracy about Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset. Have you read it?[

robinph · 15-02-2021 10:51AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm not so sure. It looks like the government is planning to "delimit" private property:

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2020/21/eng/initiated/b2120d.pdf

"The State, in particular, recognises the common good as including the right to secure, affordable, dignified housing, appropriate to need, for all the residents of Ireland and shall guarantee this right through its laws, policies and the prioritisation of resources."

"The State, accordingly, shall delimit the right to private property where it is necessary to ensure the common good and to vindicate the said right to housing for all residents of Ireland."

Is there a set list of random quotes, taken out of context, from random government sites, or ministers or their advisors or professors of something wierd that you are working through? Who gave you the list of quotes? Is there some kind of scoring system where you get points for how many unrelated nonsense quotes you can manage to drag into any online discussion in order to distract people from the fact that you have zero idea what the Great Reset is or who might be directing it, and even less of an idea of why?

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-02-2021 10:56AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm not so sure. It looks like the government is planning to "delimit" private property:

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2020/21/eng/initiated/b2120d.pdf

"The State, in particular, recognises the common good as including the right to secure, affordable, dignified housing, appropriate to need, for all the residents of Ireland and shall guarantee this right through its laws, policies and the prioritisation of resources."

"The State, accordingly, shall delimit the right to private property where it is necessary to ensure the common good and to vindicate the said right to housing for all residents of Ireland."

Let's say you own 1000 hectares of land, the government want to build a housing estate next to your land but to do so they need to run roads through it.

You refuse to sell them any land for access roads, so for the "common good and to vindicate the said right to housing for all residents of Ireland" they make a compulsory purchase order against your land. Now they can build the houses for people and have access roads for the houses.

Nothing nefarious there, it's been done for years.

ohnonotgmail · 15-02-2021 11:26AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not so sure. It looks like the government is planning to "delimit" private property:

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2020/21/eng/initiated/b2120d.pdf

"The State, in particular, recognises the common good as including the right to secure, affordable, dignified housing, appropriate to need, for all the residents of Ireland and shall guarantee this right through its laws, policies and the prioritisation of resources."

"The State, accordingly, shall delimit the right to private property where it is necessary to ensure the common good and to vindicate the said right to housing for all residents of Ireland."

you really don't understand any of that, do you?

15-02-2021 12:02PM

So once again we're back to the tactic of ignoring all points and questions then posting the next out of context or misrepresented/misunderstood article to repeat the process again.
Repeat until the poster runs away and returns with a new username a few weeks later to start it all over again.

arccosh · 15-02-2021 01:49PM

boredom hits people differently.... no wait I meant, idiocy

PintOfView · 15-02-2021 02:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not so sure. It looks like the government is planning to "delimit" private property:

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/bill/2020/21/eng/initiated/b2120d.pdf

"The State, in particular, recognises the common good as including the right to secure, affordable, dignified housing, appropriate to need, for all the residents of Ireland and shall guarantee this right through its laws, policies and the prioritisation of resources."

"The State, accordingly, shall delimit the right to private property where it is necessary to ensure the common good and to vindicate the said right to housing for all residents of Ireland."

I'm not an expert on any of this but it looks like this bill was proposed by "Solidarity-People Before Profit", not by the government
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/21/?tab=bill-text

So isn't it a bit of a stretch to suggest that the government is planning to "delimit" private property based on a link to this bill?

The first bit I'd have no problem with (rights to affordable, dignified housing, etc).
The second bit (delimiting private property) I'd like to have clarified.

Either way we (our representatives that we elected to the dail) get to vet this bill and decide whether to proceed with it or not.

So I'm not sure you've raised anything to worry about there?

22-02-2021 12:33PM

Russell Brand making some interesting videos lately on The Great Reset, Bill Gates etc. Some of them are trending over on YouTube. Based on censorship patterns over the last while re: these topics, it's possible they will be taken down soon as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD-ioJM8v64

robinph · 22-02-2021 12:40PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Russell Brand making some interesting videos lately on The Great Reset, Bill Gates etc. Some of them are trending over on YouTube. Based on censorship patterns over the last while re: these topics, it's possible they will be taken down soon as well.

What exactly interests you?
What do you think the Great Reset is?
Why is this good/ bad?
What is in it for Bill Gates?

Answers such as "I don't really know" or "go do your own research" are not really answers. Please try harder than that to save us several pages of nonsense.

22-02-2021 12:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Russell Brand

Why should we take Russell Brand anymore seriously on this topic than any other random conspiracy crank?

22-02-2021 01:08PM

robinph wrote: »

What exactly interests you?
What do you think the Great Reset is?
Why is this good/ bad?
What is in it for Bill Gates?

Answers such as "I don't really know" or "go do your own research" are not really answers. Please try harder than that to save us several pages of nonsense.

Relax there, chief. Based on your quick reply, you never even watched the video. This topic has already been discussed a hell of a lot on here. I'm just sharing this for others as it's gaining a lot of popularity on YouTube now. It's good to see such a potentially important topic getting coverage from someone with a wide audience like Brand's. Based on the videos trending and the large engagement thus far, it's clear others are interested also.

Can never understand why some of you get so defensive about these things and almost demand definitive answers about something still in progress, and for which the true underlying motives are still unclear.

robinph · 22-02-2021 01:14PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Relax there, chief. Based on your quick reply, you never even watched the video. This topic has already been discussed a hell of a lot on here. I'm just sharing this for others as it's gaining a lot of popularity on YouTube now. It's good to see such a potentially important topic getting coverage from someone with a wide audience like Brand's. Based on the videos trending and the large engagement thus far, it's clear others are interested also.

Can never understand why some of you get so defensive about these things and almost demand definitive answers about something still in progress, and for which the true underlying motives are still unclear.

Did you watch the video? What do you take from it? What is YOUR thoughts on any of this? Can YOU explain what the Great Reset is and why it is good or bad?

Not seen any reason for me to waste my time reviewing the video. All you've given us about it is that Russell Brand says something about Bill Gates, but you're not able to tell us what.

Ronald Franz · 22-02-2021 01:16PM

robinph wrote: »

Did you watch the video? What do you take from it? What is YOUR thoughts on any of this? Can YOU explain what the Great Reset is and why it is good or bad?

Not seen any reason for me to waste my time reviewing the video. All you've given us about it is that Russell Brand says something about Bill Gates, but you're not able to tell us what.

Is this your job or something?

22-02-2021 01:18PM

Ronald Franz wrote: »

Is this your job or something?

My thoughts, exactly :pac:

Sounds like he/she has no interest in the topic.

robinph · 22-02-2021 01:18PM

As for the topic being discussed a lot in this thread, yes it's a long thread with a lot of posts in. But other than that we are still none the wiser as to anything about this reset thing and why it's bad, if it is even a thing.

Also zero evidence of Bill Gates being involved in any resetting other than Ctrl Alt Del.

22-02-2021 01:19PM

Ronald Franz wrote: »

Is this your job or something?

What a silly question.

Are people not allowed to disagree with vague bull**** conspiracy theories?

robinph · 22-02-2021 01:22PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My thoughts, exactly :pac:

Sounds like he/she has no interest in the topic.

You can't even tell us what the topic is.

We did manage to get as far as a previous member of your tag team saying something about climate change, but when asked why trying to deal with that was a bad thing they went silent.

22-02-2021 01:23PM

robinph wrote: »

As for the topic being discussed a lot in this thread, yes it's a long thread with a lot of posts in. But other than that we are still none the wiser as to anything about this reset thing and why it's bad, if it is even a thing.

Also zero evidence of Bill Gates being involved in any resetting other than Ctrl Alt Del.

In that case, you obviously haven't read any of the thread.

Aren't you skipping the fundamental aspect of thread participation? Should we go back over everything again for you?

22-02-2021 01:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

In that case, you obviously haven't read any of the thread.

Aren't you skipping the fundamental aspect of thread participation? Should we go back over everything again for you?

At no point anywhere in this thread have any of the questions actually been answered.

What do you think the Great Reset is?
Why is this good/ bad?
What is in it for Bill Gates?

22-02-2021 01:29PM

robinph wrote: »

if it is even a thing.

Ok, so an official WEF event with confirmed participants "might not even be a thing".

You're either trolling, or not doing your job properly, boss. Poor show.

runawaybishop · 22-02-2021 01:30PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Russell Brand making some interesting videos lately on The Great Reset, Bill Gates etc. Some of them are trending over on YouTube. Based on censorship patterns over the last while re: these topics, it's possible they will be taken down soon as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD-ioJM8v64

That's not censorship, that's the removing of lies.

What's interesting about this video?

robinph · 22-02-2021 01:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In that case, you obviously haven't read any of the thread.

Aren't you skipping the fundamental aspect of thread participation? Should we go back over everything again for you?

It's possible that I missed something in the middle of the thread, but if it's so obvious then you should be able to give us an answer to some basic questions easily about what The Great Reset actually is. There has certainly not been anything to even vaguely inform us through the last several hundred posts and multiple other conspiracy theory posters who come through these parts.

22-02-2021 01:38PM

robinph wrote: »

It's possible that I missed something in the middle of the thread, but if it's so obvious then you should be able to give us an answer to some basic questions easily about what The Great Reset actually is. There has certainly not been anything to even vaguely inform us through the last several hundred posts and multiple other conspiracy theory posters who come through these parts.

Considering you obviously haven't read any of the thread, I suggest Russell's small video a good introduction for you. Oh wait, you said you aren't bothered watching that either.

Why are you in this thread again? Genuine question.

robinph · 22-02-2021 01:39PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ok, so an official WEF event with confirmed participants "might not even be a thing".

You're either trolling, or not doing your job properly, boss. Poor show.

So you are claiming that the WEF are doing what exactly? For what purpose? How are they doing this?

WTF has it got to do with Bill Gates?

Or is the WEF possibly just a talking shop where world leader bounce ideas around and its not actually a conspiracy at all, just a forum for economics ideas to be discussed among world leaders?

robinph · 22-02-2021 01:41PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why are you in this thread again? Genuine question.

Trying to figure out what is being reset, why, by who and why it is bad.

Do you know any of these things? Or are you just going to refer back to Russell Brand?

22-02-2021 01:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh wait, you said you aren't bothered watching that either.

You've avoided giving any good reason to take the video seriously.

The fact you have to avoid doing this is a big red flag that people shouldn't waste their time.

22-02-2021 01:48PM

robinph wrote: »

Trying to figure out what is being reset, why, by who and why it is bad.

Do you know any of these things? Or are you just going to refer back to Russell Brand?

All discussed numerous times back "somewhere in the middle of the thread" you happened to miss (ie the entire thread)

Can't expect people to engage with you when you don't even bother to read any of the previous discussion.

Have a good one.

Quantum Baloney · 22-02-2021 01:49PM

King Mob wrote: »

At no point anywhere in this thread have any of the questions actually been answered.

What do you think the Great Reset is?
Why is this good/ bad?
What is in it for Bill Gates?

You don't even have to believe that the great reset is in actually happening to very easily grasp the proposed explanations. It is not rocket science and its fundamentals should already be familiar to you if you have even a rudimentary understanding of globalisation. You are either being wilfully ignorant or you have another role here which you have not disclosed.

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