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WandaVision - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    STUPID AGATHA SONG STUCK IN MY STUPID HEAD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Kidnapping a whole town, terrorising them... people on the outskirts trapped in monotonous boomerangs whilst crying...some things are perhaps worse than death

    No evidence yet that Agatha is the main cause of any of that.

    All the actions we saw in her (incredible) montage was doing things that are putting stress on Wanda (like controlling Pietro who was messing things up and killing the dog) or pushing Vision away from her (the chainsaw and car). If anything it appears she has been weakening and isolating Wanda for reasons that have nothing to do with the situation the town is in, most likely to get her in the position to trap her like we've seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    tbahh wrote: »
    A brilliant episode. I think we all knew something was up with Agnes. Her intro song was fun and catchy, too. It all has to "kick off" now. I don't really see Agnes sticking around after the show ends, either. Probably replaced by the 'real' villain of the next phase.

    I wonder now that we know who Agnes is, will they stop doing the comedy-show pastiches? Apart from the obvious The Office and Modern Family references, the end part reminded me quite a lot of Desperate Housewives. In a way, Wanda has become one now. The show (DH) is also part of ABC's (i.e. Disney's) repertoire, too.

    With the right writers I'd be very much open to them doing a Kathryn Hahn led Disney+ mini series showing Agnes through history (presuming she isn't a mortal character that received her powers recently).

    Given how well the character has been received I don't think it would be too farfetched.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭E mac


    ArthurG wrote: »
    STUPID AGATHA SONG STUCK IN MY STUPID HEAD

    And she killed Sparky too...!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    No evidence yet that Agatha is the main cause of any of that.

    All the actions we saw in her (incredible) montage was doing things that are putting stress on Wanda (like controlling Pietro who was messing things up and killing the dog) or pushing Vision away from her (the chainsaw and car). If anything it appears she has been weakening and isolating Wanda for reasons that have nothing to do with the situation the town is in, most likely to get her in the position to trap her like we've seen.

    I never said she was?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,107 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Not seen the John Wicks movies then ;)


    can someone explain the John Wick reference?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,403 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Anyone else still waiting for sweet dreams when Pietro is on screen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    can someone explain the John Wick reference?

    His dog, that his late wife left him was murdered, bringing John back into his previous line of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    I think most people who watched from the beginning understood what the show was trying to do and as you say it was a slow burn mystery, but the thing about slow burns is that do they have enough to keep the attention during the more quieter moments?

    You used Breaking Bad as an example and I'll follow suit by using Better Call Saul; the latter was arguably a slower burn than BB, but it had enough about it to keep the viewer interested. I would say Wandavision probably took a bit too much for granted in the early episodes but it's inconsequential at this point.

    Are you saying what happened in the early episodes were 'inconsequential' or that the complaints are? If you meant the former, at minimum they introduce us to the world, the characters, their initial state of mind and all of this has been built up to where we are now. Without those episodes the show simply wouldn't work, for starters the Agnes montage wouldn't be 'It was Agatha all along', it would be 'It was Agatha over this tiny period of time'.

    I also don't think those show comparisons work at all for an excuse for the impatience of some here and elsewhere.

    The screen time in the first 4 episodes of Wandavison is around the same as the first 2 episodes of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. By the end of episode 4 of Wandavision they'd built out what had happened in the Hex, introduced 2 characters that might be long term in the MCU, and caught up on everything that was happening outside of the Hex. While in the two examples of other shows that you mentioned the story had barely even started.

    Again, it seems that some people are just confusing not liking something (i.e., the Sitcom piece) and the pace of the show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    shawki wrote: »
    Puppy murder isn't crossing the line?

    No not in the MCU. Wanda herself has a checkered past. The Winter Soldier has done some seriously horrible things. Killing a real or fake puppy and holding a town hostage through mind control is not something that would definitively paint Agatha firmly into the villain category.

    Look at Loki. You can do all sorts of atrocities and still redeem yourself later on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭RedRochey


    It's been confirmed that Wanda will be part of the Dr Strange series ya? So I'm guessing
    he's going to make an appearance in this soon, maybe something to do with that book in agatha's basement? Wasn't there a bit about forbidden books in Dr Strange movie and one of them was missing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    RedRochey wrote: »
    It's been confirmed that Wanda will be part of the.....

    Be careful about speculation without spoiler tags, especially because you could be spot on with that guess. It’s a logical assumption. But people will blame you for spoiling it if you’re correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭RedRochey


    GSPfan wrote: »
    Be careful about speculation without spoiler tags, especially because you could be spot on with that guess. It’s a logical assumption. But people will blame you for spoiling it if you’re correct.

    Changed it there thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Wanda being in the next Doctor Strange movie isn't speculation... She's on the literal cover of it.

    The forbidden books that were stolen was to do with Kaecillius, there was a whole scene showing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Wanda being in the next Doctor Strange movie isn't speculation... She's on the literal cover of it.

    The forbidden books that were stolen was to do with Kaecillius, there was a whole scene showing it.

    The speculation referred to what might happen in Wandavision. We can come back to it after the last episode airs. I don’t really mind spoilers too much but some people really hate it so best to be safe even if it is just speculation. No harm done, it’s just this particular speculation could be highly accurate if you put the pieces together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    I'm actually surprised that
    Strange hasn't shown up yet, given his role of Supreme Sorcerer
    , and that Wanda's hex in Westview should've set alarm bells ringing.

    Granted that could all change with either episode 8 or 9.

    Also with the shows events being 3 weeks after Endgame, you'd have to wonder what Fury makes of it all on the S.W.O.R.D space station.

    Then again Hayward is acting Director, so could be keeping him in the loop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,593 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    I'm actually surprised that
    Strange hasn't shown up yet, given his role of Supreme Sorcerer
    , and that Wanda's hex in Westview should've set alarm bells ringing.

    Granted that could all change with either episode 8 or 9.

    Also with the shows events being 3 weeks after Endgame, you'd have to wonder what Fury makes of it all on the S.W.O.R.D space station.

    Then again Hayward is acting Director, so could be keeping him in the loop.

    I saw a video the otherday where someone pointed out (Spiderman Far From Home slight spoiler:) that
    Far From Home was happening roughly the same time as where Wandavision is now, and that when Peter asked if Dr Strange couldn't help out Fury said he was unavailable. So he's probably lurking in the background in some capacity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,028 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I saw a video the otherday where someone pointed out (Spiderman Far From Home slight spoiler:) that
    Far From Home was happening roughly the same time as where Wandavision is now, and that when Peter asked if Dr Strange couldn't help out Fury said he was unavailable. So he's probably lurking in the background in some capacity.

    Spiderman Far From Home takes place about 8 months after Endgame, whereas Wandavision is only set 3 weeks after Endgame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,593 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Penn wrote: »
    Spiderman Far From Home takes place about 8 months after Endgame, whereas Wandavision is only set 3 weeks after Endgame.

    He could still be tied up with Wanda's mess by that stage *shrugs*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Penn wrote: »
    Spiderman Far From Home takes place about 8 months after Endgame, whereas Wandavision is only set 3 weeks after Endgame.
    He could still be tied up with Wanda's mess by that stage *shrugs*

    Or theory Wanda's hex
    with help from Agatha, could have expanded around the globe by season's finale
    , and proving more difficult than
    Strange
    originally anticipated.

    Who knows? Cause I sure don't :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    My guess is Dr Strange is the pet rabbit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,593 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    My guess is Dr Strange is the pet rabbit.
    In the comics Agatha Harkness has a son called Nicolas Scratch (Senor Scratchie?) who has pretty much the same powers as her mind control, manipulation etc. Although it that is the case I don't know why he's effectively taking the role of Agatha's familiar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭shawki


    Can we start a placing bets on who this Luke Skywalker level cameo is going to be?

    My guess is Dolph Lundgren's Punisher 5,000/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    shawki wrote: »
    Can we start a placing bets on who this Luke Skywalker level cameo is going to be?

    My guess is Dolph Lundgren's Punisher 5,000/1
    Michael Fassbender's Magneto
    is my guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    If it's akin to Luke Skywalker, then it has to be Thor, Spiderman or some reincarnation of Iron Man.... anything else doesn't fit the top billing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭Zhane


    If it's akin to Luke Skywalker, then it has to be Thor, Spiderman or some reincarnation of Iron Man.... anything else doesn't fit the top billing

    I dunno. I’d be underwhelmed if they showed up, we know they are out there. But them showing up is not quite the Luke Skywalker reaction people are expecting. For example people would lose their heads if Michael Fassbender or Ian mckellen showed up as Magneto or even John Krasinksi as Reed. Im not saying it has to be them but i suspect it’s someone who will set social media on fire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    I'm actually surprised that
    Strange hasn't shown up yet, given his role of Supreme Sorcerer
    , and that Wanda's hex in Westview should've set alarm bells ringing.

    Granted that could all change with either episode 8 or 9.

    Also with the shows events being 3 weeks after Endgame, you'd have to wonder what Fury makes of it all on the S.W.O.R.D space station.

    Then again Hayward is acting Director, so could be keeping him in the loop.

    I would suspect there is a decent chance that Fury hasn't left earth yet - on the presumption that the Fury we saw dusting in the post credits for Infinity War was actually Fury.

    As for Dr Strange, I'm not sure the Hex so far would necessarily set the alarm bells ringing. Most of the focus of sorcerers seems to be protecting the sanctums, which at this point this is no threat to. What Wands is doing isn't even 'magic' given that it is derived from an infinity stone. Agnes on the other hand might link in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I already said it's Drax. He's been standing in the background of every episode since the series started.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    I would suspect there is a decent chance that Fury hasn't left earth yet - on the presumption that the Fury we saw dusting in the post credits for Infinity War was actually Fury.

    As for Dr Strange, I'm not sure the Hex so far would necessarily set the alarm bells ringing. Most of the focus of sorcerers seems to be protecting the sanctums, which at this point this is no threat to. What Wands is doing isn't even 'magic' given that it is derived from an infinity stone. Agnes on the other hand might link in.

    I remember reading somewhere, or maybe it was a YouTube video that the Fury dusted in Infinity War was THE Fury, and that after Tony's funeral in Endgame, he had Talos assume his identity and place on Earth while he went took care of things off planet - as seen in Far From Home.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,593 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    shawki wrote: »
    Can we start a placing bets on who this Luke Skywalker level cameo is going to be?

    My guess is Dolph Lundgren's Punisher 5,000/1

    I really would be surprised if it was anyone but
    Dr Strange arriving to announced that we've got a big problem
    , either as a last-second pre-credit roll moment or a mid-credit scene, but I can see Feige throwing an extra surprise in, which could be the sought after
    John Krasinski as Reed Richards or Fassbender as Magneto


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