Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

normanoffside wrote: »

It was, because of Christmas and New Year's celebration but despite that they allowed low risk activity such as retail, Hairdressing, outdoor dining to continue and have had the same result as us in terms of drops in cases and hospitalisations.
Our response has no nuance it's just 'shut down everything'. We don't take example from other parts of the world with regards what can be done safely. They've learned nothing in almost a year.

Unfortunately Ireland having the highest infection rate had no nuance either.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-did-ireland-find-itself-with-the-highest-infection-rate-in-the-world-12189128


And it remains people in crowded buildings and packed environments 'cos of ****e weather here requires a different response to where you are - lucky you.

I've edited my post now, hope it's to your satisfaction. Didn't realise you'd be so sensitive.

Oh miaow. No sensitivity simply basic manners in discussion.

Johns Hopkins expert says COVID-19 pandemic could end by April

A Johns Hopkins professor and surgeon says that the coronavirus could be “mostly gone” by April.

Marty Makary, who teaches at the university’s School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, said in an opinion piece published in the Wall Street Journal on Friday that daily infections have declined by 77 percent since January.

“There is reason to think the country is racing toward an extremely low level of infection,” Makary wrote.

growleaves wrote: »

Johns Hopkins expert says COVID-19 pandemic could end by April

Better inform Sam McConkey quick, he's just been on the radio stating lies and misinformation and not getting pulled up on it. He's even claimed the vaccines do nothing against the variants which is blatantly untrue. The fact transmission is reduced 90% after Pfizer vaccine - coming from real world data in Israel is a game changer.
Funny I've yet to see RTE or our media report on this great news.

normanoffside wrote: »

That was a snapshot of one particular week. Yes as a country we did have the highest rates that week but it’s not compared to regions within countries like I’m talking about.

On your second point how do you explain indoor retail and grooming services being allowed to stay open and yet cases drop on the same trajectory as ours with ‘full lockdown’

When comparing things best compare like with like for accuracy. The whole month of January was a ****efest for hospitals and ICUs. Were still dealing with the fall out of that.

As to indoor retail. We do that here too
Supermarkets and other some shops are open.
As for grooming-afaik it generally carries a fairly high risk of infection I supposed it could be managed with strict controls as well.

Again it's always difficult to compare completely different countries with drastically different climates and cultures.

Thing is we are currently getting rates of infection down albeit slowly. Looks like restrictions will be rolled back once thats down to manageable levels. Though the increased risk of transmissibility of the UK varient is also now an issue.

Penfailed wrote: »

People walking, talking, eating and drinking is against the NPHET message?

No. And to be fair, you know better then that. I think you are reasonable when it comes to debating this subject. You know I never suggested that.

I just want to clear up what I meant. People are now out and about on a much more significant scale since the weather has improved. I don't think the current NPHET messaging of 'stay at home' is going to as effective moving forward into the spring and summer period. This messaging from NPHET and the government will continue to bounce off younger people in particular.

I was only observing what I witnessed today. Today is the first day I saw crowds on a much more significant scale since the weather and the dark nights are improving.

TomTomTim wrote: »

It is if they are beyond their perimeter

NPHET’s message is to treat everyone as if they have the disease.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

NPHET’s message is to treat everyone as if they have the disease.

Just in case.

walus wrote: »

Well McDonkey is one hell of an unscientific scientist. Being wrong is one thing, ignoring science that contradicts his own delusion is something else. He should be stripped of his academic credentials for this continuous ignorance of facts.

He needs a good swift kick in the bollox

CruelSummer wrote: »

Better inform Sam McConkey quick, he's just been on the radio stating lies and misinformation and not getting pulled up on it. He's even claimed the vaccines do nothing against the variants which is blatantly untrue. The fact transmission is reduced 90% after Pfizer vaccine - coming from real world data in Israel is a game changer.
Funny I've yet to see RTE or our media report on this great news.

I actually came here to see if anyone else heard it as I thought I had imagined it!! Chaps an absolute fruit loop coming out with that and moreover no-one is calling him out on it. Aren't RTE running a TV ad a long while now about "only believe in trusted sources for your info" ie them and their cohorts and then McConkey gets on the airwaves spouting unadulterated, and quite frankly, incredibly dangerous garbage.
He said there were 3 cases of the Brazillian variant and the vaccine wont work and this is why we should be all "terrified"!!
Terrified the man says!!!
Sweet divine baby Jesus...what the hell is going on? I'm sorry but this is going way to far with the joke. Giving someone like him freedom to spout this(and not for his first time)type of thing to the masses is madness and its now time people really woke up and started to think for themselves in relation to this total sham of a situation. These guys in well paid jobs and are peddling rubbish.

Believe me there is only one thing I have been terrified of the last 4 or 5 months and thats the 28th of each month.
The day my mortgage is due.

kittensmittens wrote: »

I actually came here to see if anyone else heard it as I thought I had imagined it!! Chaps an absolute fruit loop coming out with that and moreover no-one is calling him out on it. Aren't RTE running a TV ad a long while now about "only believe in trusted sources for your info" ie them and their cohorts and then McConkey gets on the airwaves spouting unadulterated, and quite frankly, incredibly dangerous garbage.
He said there were 3 cases of the Brazillian variant and the vaccine wont work and this is why we should be all "terrified"!!
Terrified the man says!!!
Sweet divine baby Jesus...what the hell is going on? I'm sorry but this is going way to far with the joke. Giving someone like him freedom to spout this(and not for his first time)type of thing to the masses is madness and its now time people really woke up and started to think for themselves in relation to this total sham of a situation these guys in well paid jobs are peddling.

Believe me there is only one thing I have been terrified of the last 4 or 5 months and thats the 28th of each month.
The day my mortgage is due.

That's just madness. I'm definitely better off not watching or listening to RTE.

Penfailed wrote: »

That's just madness. I'm definitely better off not watching or listening to RTE.

It was on FM104 actually so no avoiding it by blacklisting RTE et al.
I reckon he isnt reaching enough of the younger demographic with his message of death and despair by sticking with RTE.

RobitTV wrote: »

RTE is saying that the 'living with covid' plan includes this piece of information:

It is thought that pubs which don't serve food may not re-open until autumn.

I think this is a very emotional moment for these publicans. These are real people and they have worked hard for years or even decades in some cases to keep their pub running. We need to understand where they are coming from. Many of these publicans are not wealthy by any means.

They will receive government assistance but it won't enough to cover the bills overall as time progresses. There is not much point keeping hold of an empty pub.

Honestly I think the pub game is over.

Windmill100000 wrote: »

I wish I lived near a beach! I'm an early bird so usually go for a walk early in the mornings when I can. It's very quiet early at the weekend but not so much during the week. Not the same as a coastal walk though

Yeah I sometimes don't realise how lucky I may be compared to many other people across the country. Even though I find this lockdown situation increasingly tedious, I am in a much better position to go out for a coastal walk.

I do feel for those people who live in a city centre or a suburb. It can be tough to find the correct location for a decent and peaceful walk.

aziz wrote: »

He needs a good swift kick in the bollox

Or a brick through the living room window. Whichever is easier to implement.

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Honestly I think the pub game is over.

The traditional Irish pub is finished. Wetherspoons is the template for the pub scene in the future.