Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

Jordan 199 · 19-02-2021 08:27AM

New Alpha Tauri pics.

El_Duderino 09 · 19-02-2021 08:29AM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Haas lining up BWT as title sponsor

Pink Ferraris

That’ll be strange. Like the Racing points moved down the grid.

Is that this year or next year?

flazio · 19-02-2021 08:34AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

That’ll be strange. Like the Racing points moved down the grid.

Is that this year or next year?

No stranger then Marlboro moving from McLaren to Ferrari, or BMW from Williams to Sauber. Good to see Haas move to water. That last drink they were on nearly killed them.

Alpha Tauri looks nice. Good to see more blue. Makes them more distinguishable for Crofty.

SureYWouldntYa · 19-02-2021 08:35AM

Jordan 199 wrote: »

New Alpha Tauri pics.

2 cars so far, 2 where I’m struggling to see differences from the 2020 car

pjohnson · 19-02-2021 09:50AM

AMKC · 19-02-2021 10:28AM

flazio wrote: »

No stranger then Marlboro moving from McLaren to Ferrari, or BMW from Williams to Sauber. Good to see Haas move to water. That last drink they were on nearly killed them.

Alpha Tauri looks nice. Good to see more blue. Makes them more distinguishable for Crofty.

Agreed it has a nice clean tidy livery to it.

Good to see Haas move to water. That last drink they were on nearly killed them.

Lol that made me laugh.

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

2 cars so far, 2 where I’m struggling to see differences from the 2020 car

You will struggle to because there is not many visual changes except for 10 per cent less floor and some other small bits.
The livery is the big changes this year.

recyclebin · 19-02-2021 11:11AM

I much preferred the red, blue and chrome livery of the Toro Rosso. The Alpha Tauri livery is so bland. Its like someone took the old 90s Williams livery and then made a pigs ear of it.

pjohnson · 19-02-2021 11:13AM

Journos on Twitter saying BWT have pulled out of Haas discussions. Haas apparently already have a title sponsor anyway.

Williams now linked with BWT.

muckwarrior · 19-02-2021 11:18AM

recyclebin wrote: »

I much preferred the red, blue and chrome livery of the Toro Rosso. The Alpha Tauri livery is so bland. Its like someone took the old 90s Williams livery and then made a pigs ear of it.

Yeah, I couldn't understand when people were raving about it last year. It's grand like.

quokula · 19-02-2021 11:24AM

Car launches are so boring these days. Used to be that there'd always be at least one or two teams that would do something innovative and new, and most would have something interesting to see. For the last few years it's almost always basically the same car in an updated livery. You could paint them black and you'd struggle to tell which was the new one, aside from the mandated narrowing of the floor at the back.

pjohnson · 19-02-2021 11:31AM

Did anyone expect anything revolutionary? Given they spent two-years planning for the proposed 2021 regs that they dont have a new 2020 reg car ready for 2021?

AMKC · 19-02-2021 12:04PM

Maybe next years launches will be better as the cars will be all new then. Who knows some could decide to launch on Amazon like Honda recently did with it's new HRV or on You-Tube like Nissan did for it's new Qashqai or even or some other site.

flazio · 19-02-2021 12:11PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Journos on Twitter saying BWT have pulled out of Haas discussions. Haas apparently already have a title sponsor anyway.

Williams now linked with BWT.

Well that dried up quickly.

Frank Bullitt · 19-02-2021 05:14PM

I'g glad that Haas already have a title sponsor, and would be great for Williams.

Love the white wheels on the AT.

Harika · 19-02-2021 07:35PM

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

I'g glad that Haas already have a title sponsor, and would be great for Williams.

Love the white wheels on the AT.

Let's hope their title sponsor is not the is not the rich energy buddy

Frank Bullitt · 19-02-2021 10:11PM

Harika wrote: »

Let's hope their title sponsor is not the is not the rich energy buddy

That cowboy deserves to be kept away from all forms of motorsport.

Pen Rua · 20-02-2021 03:13PM

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1362748779091292161

AMKC · 20-02-2021 10:00PM

Red bull to reveal there car on the 23rd I think. Seen if today nearly sure its is the 23rd so two reveals that day.

Jordan 199 · 20-02-2021 10:44PM

Alfa Romeo launch is on Monday the 22nd in Warsaw followed by Red Bull on Tuesday the 23rd.

I always used to look forward to car launches, but I'm feeling pretty much 'meh' about them this year.

AMKC · 20-02-2021 11:11PM

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Alfa Romeo launch is on Monday the 22nd in Warsaw followed by Red Bull on Tuesday the 23rd.

I always used to look forward to car launches, but I'm feeling pretty much 'meh' about them this year.

Yes they have been very 'meh' and dull so far this year. Let's hope the racing is better.

El_Duderino 09 · 21-02-2021 07:23AM

AMKC wrote: »

Yes they have been very 'meh' and dull so far this year. Let's hope the racing is better.

What do you normally like about car launches? Is it the variety in design which is probabgoing to be lacking this year?

I’d say it’s probably similar to this in the 7th year of a formula. Ideas have pretty much been explored and the fastest design is established by now and *Spoiler* it’s the Mercedes. So there are no innovations because it’s the last year of the formula so no reward in taking risks. Instead they’re just taking the safe and fast route of converging in the Mercedes design. Hopeful next year will have more variety in design philosophy.

AMKC · 21-02-2021 12:25PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What do you normally like about car launches? Is it the variety in design which is probabgoing to be lacking this year?

I’d say it’s probably similar to this in the 7th year of a formula. Ideas have pretty much been explored and the fastest design is established by now and *Spoiler* it’s the Mercedes. So there are no innovations because it’s the last year of the formula so no reward in taking risks. Instead they’re just taking the safe and fast route of converging in the Mercedes design. Hopeful next year will have more variety in design philosophy.

The new livery's as well as the designs. Of course the design of all the cars over the last 5 or 6 years have been very similar. I think the last unique design on a modern F1 car was the Lotus twin nose design. There was also the Ferrari hover nose design and the Lego Ferrari like design. Let's hope 22 brings some unique ideas and designs.

flazio · 21-02-2021 01:39PM

Rich aren't getting anywhere near Alfa Romeo it appears. Looks like Kubica is still bank rolling.
https://twitter.com/Kos__Michal/status/1363476075351855105?s=19

Pen Rua · 21-02-2021 02:46PM

flazio wrote: »

Rich aren't getting anywhere near Alfa Romeo it appears. Looks like Kubica is still bank rolling.
https://twitter.com/Kos__Michal/status/1363476075351855105?s=19

Tweet unavailable?

Their car launch is in Poland tomorrow AM.

flazio · 21-02-2021 02:58PM

Pen Rua wrote: »

Tweet unavailable?

Their car launch is in Poland tomorrow AM.

It showed the car being rolled into place with a sheet over it but the sidepod and rear wing exposed. The side is red with Orlen (Kubicas main sponsor) prominent on it. The back of the rear wing has Alfa Romeo written on it.

Cork Trucker · 21-02-2021 03:22PM

Orlen can’t solely be backing Kubica in a test/reserve role. Is he being lined up to replace Raikkonen when the time comes?

Pen Rua · 21-02-2021 03:38PM

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Orlen can’t solely be backing Kubica in a test/reserve role. Is he being lined up to replace Raikkonen when the time comes?

I was thinking the same - seems like a big commitment on Orlen's side to go for a co-title sponsorship to back "their" driver.

As much as I loved the Kubica come back fairy tale, the guy will be 37/38 by the time 2021 rolls around and he's had two shots at F1. Whatever about Kimi, I really think new blood in the sport should get the seat ahead of Kubica. The FDA is STACKED this year (what - 4 drivers in F2? Not to mention Illot and Mick) so I'd much rather see Ferrari try leverage their role in Sauber / Alfa and get the two seats there for one, if not two, of their juniors.

Plus, Kubica is dipping his toes into endurance racing where he might actually challenge for a (class) win as opposed to floating around the midfield with Alfa / Sauber.

vectra · 21-02-2021 03:44PM

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Orlen can’t solely be backing Kubica in a test/reserve role. Is he being lined up to replace Raikkonen when the time comes?

Can never see Kubica in a full time seat again to be honest.

mickdw · 21-02-2021 04:23PM

vectra wrote: »

Can never see Kubica in a full time seat again to be honest.

Hard to see it alright.

pjohnson · 21-02-2021 05:34PM

Hes probably pencilled in for a lot of FP1's but doubt he gets a full time seat.

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