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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Gael23 wrote: »
    NPHET are worried that construction workers may mix together at breaks apparently

    they have the lowest opinion possible of people don't they


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    lawred2 wrote: »
    they have the lowest opinion possible of people don't they


    Alternatively they read the data showing where outbreaks occur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    The mother showed me a FB post of a salon in Cork who has had enough. They're opening their doors soon. I wonder will this happen in other places too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭C__MC


    The sneakiness of MM announcing to the Irish Mirror that another 9 weeks of lockdown are ahead of us, FF at its best


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    C__MC wrote: »
    The sneakiness of MM announcing to the Irish Mirror that another 9 weeks of lockdown are ahead of us, FF at its best


    At the weekend too. He's a gowl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Are you putting yourself in the subservient group?

    it's very disheartening to see how big the subservient group is.
    In case I'm accused of it, not you :pac:

    But seriously, the number of people living in fear of covid19 and just content to outsource all their decisions to the government.
    Somehow we as a nation have bred a large section of society emotionally dependent on the state to verify their action in a similar way to some families are for unable to function without the welfare state.

    cos you know most of the same people will be in the restaurants/bars immediately if the government said they could open.
    As is Michael Martins mere voice on tv would diminish the risk of covid death.


    On related point, yesterday I saw fools jogging with masks in the park like wtf?
    Certainly not the median age 83 cohort either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    growleaves wrote: »
    About 20 people stood maskless in the parking lot on Jan. 4, waving signs that said things like “love over fear,” “hugs over masks,” “Covidism is communism to slavery,” and “forced vaccination is rape.”

    Tracy-Chapman-Revolution.mpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    The mother showed me a FB post of a salon in Cork who has had enough. They're opening their doors soon. I wonder will this happen in other places too.

    They won't be long closing back down than irrespective of our opinions about the poxy restrictions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    At the weekend too. He's a gowl.

    he is really the worst , i'd rather Bertie and his dodgy dealings than this ineptitude.

    a career politician with years at the top playing the smoking ban card for the past 20years. He stands for nothing but ineptitude and his craven desire for power.

    I'm certainly not fan of leo but I can't wait till this 2 years deal is up and leo takes over.
    Hopefully FF will knife Martin in the back then


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    billyhead wrote: »
    They won't be long closing back down than irrespective of our opinions about the poxy restrictions.


    Oh absolutely, but I wonder will there be more local businesses trying to chance it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Graham wrote: »
    Alternatively they read the data showing where outbreaks occur.

    lunch breaks on construction sites?

    the data is publicly available. They don't have their own private datasets unshared so I presume you have it to hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    At the weekend too. He's a gowl.

    He's a coward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    People will ultimately need to take to the streets at some stage. One of the biggest issues with social media is that is that people are less likely to protest wrongs when they can just vent from their living room.

    I think protests will happen, but maybe not in the immediate future. People are fed up but the vista of taking to the streets is simply, in the eyes of many people, running far too close to the risk of being associated with the slightly more eccentric and extreme fringes. I don’t think there would be much media goodwill either — the BLM protests were organised in a way that attempted to respect social distancing but it was clear that not everybody was doing it. But the overall message of BLM was looked upon favourably and the media were kind in their reporting. Any anti-lockdown protests, even those organised by people encouraging social distancing, will undoubtedly be labelled a “super spreader” event and the media will likely hone in on examples of people standing together.

    What I do think will happen though is that we are on a the verge of a storm of protests when the vaccine is rolled out. The young people of Ireland have essentially had their interests tossed to the wind — our youngest children thrust into a depersonalised educational experiment, teenagers who have been denied precious life experiences, young adults now facing into the fact that they cannot afford a home in their own country while construction sites lie silent. We face into a new world where the remote-working professionals have been able to save money and can at least look forward to some flexibility in their working arrangements but they will soon exert pressure on housing in the suburbs and small towns — with prices escalating. Those who cannot work remotely will find themselves with less flexibility, and I have serious concerns as to the effect this social divide will have on Irish society in the years to come. This is just the tip of the iceberg — and a whole slew of issues now lie ahead of us (not to mention the wider global issue of poverty being exacerbated).

    I have said to all those who were strong supporters of the government’s strategy — you have had the moral high ground for the past year, and perhaps for a few months more to come. Soon that moral high ground is going to slip away beneath peoples’ feet, and I wonder how many people will subtly shift to new ones. I wonder how many will return to championing socioeconomic issues, how many will wax lyrical about how good socioeconomic policies improves both the quality of life and generally contributes to the overall prolongation of life.

    Once socioeconomic issues are ‘cool’ again — and not just the perceived preserve of those who allegedly just want a pint and don’t give a s**t who dies for it — then the protests will come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    The mother showed me a FB post of a salon in Cork who has had enough. They're opening their doors soon. I wonder will this happen in other places too.

    My wife says one in balbriggan area doing similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Ronald Franz


    C__MC wrote: »
    The sneakiness of MM announcing to the Irish Mirror that another 9 weeks of lockdown are ahead of us, FF at its best

    The country will not open up this year. Its clear they are just doing rolling announcements instead of just announcing year long lockdown. By the time we open they will have organised the new system/reset to step into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Boggles wrote: »
    Tracy-Chapman-Revolution.mpeg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I think protests will happen, but maybe not in the immediate future. People are fed up but the vista of taking to the streets is simply, in the eyes of many people, running far too close to the risk of being associated with the slightly more eccentric and extreme fringes. I don’t think there would be much media goodwill either — the BLM protests were organised in a way that attempted to respect social distancing but it was clear that not everybody was doing it. But the overall message of BLM was looked upon favourably and the media were kind in their reporting. Any anti-lockdown protests, even those organised by people encouraging social distancing, will undoubtedly be labelled a “super spreader” event and the media will likely hone in on examples of people standing together.

    What I do think will happen though is that we are on a the verge of a storm of protests when the vaccine is rolled out. The young people of Ireland have essentially had their interests tossed to the wind — our youngest children thrust into a depersonalised educational experiment, teenagers who have been denied precious life experiences, young adults now facing into the fact that they cannot afford a home in their own country while construction sites lie silent. We face into a new world where the remote-working professionals have been able to save money and can at least look forward to some flexibility in their working arrangements but they will soon exert pressure on housing in the suburbs and small towns — with prices escalating. Those who cannot work remotely will find themselves with less flexibility, and I have serious concerns as to the effect this social divide will have on Irish society in the years to come. This is just the tip of the iceberg — and a whole slew of issues now lie ahead of us (not to mention the wider global issue of poverty being exacerbated).

    I have said to all those who were strong supporters of the government’s strategy — you have had the moral high ground for the past year, and perhaps for a few months more to come. Soon that moral high ground is going to slip away beneath peoples’ feet, and I wonder how many people will subtly shift to new ones. I wonder how many will return to championing socioeconomic issues, how many will wax lyrical about how good socioeconomic policies improves both the quality of life and generally contributes to the overall prolongation of life.

    Once socioeconomic issues are ‘cool’ again — and not just the perceived preserve of those who allegedly just want a pint and don’t give a s**t who dies for it — then the protests will come.

    You are overthinking it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭mikekerry


    The country will not open up this year. Its clear they are just doing rolling announcements instead of just announcing year long lockdown. By the time we open they will have organised the new system/reset to step into.

    It'll only open when people decide themselves to open.
    There's not even a chance of having a pint in a non-food pub by xmas with this shower in charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    growleaves wrote: »

    He doesn't want your ilk using his song. Tut Tut.

    Twisted Sister singer to anti-maskers: Don't use our song


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    People will ultimately need to take to the streets at some stage.

    At what stage? This will all be over before the end of the year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,377 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    My brother lives in Malta and they have had high enough numbers but managed to keep open somewhat. You can still go to the gym and go to restaurants. This is on an island that is the most densely populated place in Europe.
    Exactly how bad is our healthcare system that we have to have this continuous level of lockdown?
    Malta is a bit of a corrupt ramshackle place but when my brother got the virus he had his own room in hospital for a week, no fuss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    The country will not open up this year. Its clear they are just doing rolling announcements instead of just announcing year long lockdown. By the time we open they will have organised the new system/reset to step into.

    It'll be a great reset...? Yeah?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    I suggest everyone who wrote to their TDs does a follow up now to let them know they have had enough and won’t be following 9 more weeks of level 5. Let them know you are planning to disregard it and protest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭francogarbanzo


    Boggles wrote: »
    You are overthinking it again.

    You're right. Don't overthink these things. Countries are very simple mechanisms and easy instructions like "Open. Close. Open. Close again. Keep closed." are the best way to ensure that people stay healthy and they're unlikely to have any negative effects. Just don't think about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭growleaves


    At what stage? This will all be over before the end of the year

    That was said last year as well, at one stage.

    We've been already primed to expect a 'fourth wave', 'new variants' and 'restrictions into 2022'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Penfailed wrote: »
    It'll be a great reset...? Yeah?

    well that is the plan isn't it according to the WEF of which many of our leaders are signed up too.
    Leo has some junior hero leader badge from them ...I can't recall the exact title.

    but yeah...


  • Posts: 18,089 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    At what stage? This will all be over before the end of the year

    Vaccine roll out by September......... folk will likely wear masks when in shops for the winter 2021 at least IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Ronald Franz


    Penfailed wrote: »
    It'll be a great reset...? Yeah?

    I appreciate you want to keep your comfort level but open your mind to 'possibilities'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I suggest everyone who wrote to their TDs does a follow up now to let them know they have had enough and won’t be following 9 more weeks of level 5. Let them know you are planning to disregard it and protest.

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