Any 530e owners out there?

Ricey3509 wrote: »

Great, thanks. Which model did you install and where did you buy from?

www.amazon.de - Eton B100w.

It was a German seller at the time, even pre brexit, that was the best option.

Lantus wrote: »

https://youtu.be/1vbo4QUzUi4

I'm not a big bmw fan but do like this car and the philosophy and design intent behind it. The economics of phev are redundant in this case given its a 5 series. The bigger battery in the new model seems a good improvement.

Why are the PHEV economics redundant?

Kramer wrote: »

I guess savings on running costs (petrol) pale in significance when compared to depreciation/finance costs etc.

Saving €1,000 on petrol per year, on an €80k car, likely wouldn't be a big consideration for a potential buyer.

If you're getting a luxury German car regardless, it's a far better proposition than a new, tractor like 520d - diesel :pac:.

That's it really, the appeal of the hybrid in a luxury car isn't necessarily about the total running cost, but the smooth torquey power delivery and quiet running costs around town.

But on the cost side, if you're a commuters with charging facilities at work, it has great potential. Noone buys a 530e over a bus ticket because they want to save money, but they do buy the 530e over a 520d because they want to save money.

irishgrover wrote: »

did he ever figure out how to use a charger?
I stopped watching his videos a couple of years ago when he pretended not to know how to use a charger, which was all the fashion with reporters a few years ago....

I can’t watch his stuff, he’s brutal.

Casati wrote: »

Why are the PHEV economics redundant?

Because it's an expensive luxury car. Someone purchasing a new 5 series hardly needs to save money and the extra expenses of phev in the first place is likely not an issue compared to the many other luxury options on offer.

Compared to say the kona soft hybrid where the hybrid is 4k more than the petrol offering terrible economics for a buyer at the lower end of the market.

Skoda superb phev is also shockingly expensive.

Casati wrote: »

He said in the video it didn’t even have adaptive cruise!

What are peoples thoughts on the 530i? Does it drink petrol?

Starting to see a few appearing up north at not crazy money but wonder would a 520d be a better bet?

Casati wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on the 530i? Does it drink petrol?

Starting to see a few appearing up north at not crazy money but wonder would a 520d be a better bet?

You dont buy a 530i if you think a 520d will be a better bet.
There is no crossover imo between the 2. For example, if you do the mileage, you need diesel and a 530i even though its a 2.0 turbo will be severe.
If you dont do diesel mileage, why even consider a 20d.
The 530i looks quite rare - itself and the 530e are very close on performance. Ive a feeling the 530i would be a depreciation disaster once plug in becomes more main stream.
For a low mileage user who plans to keep for a long time, the 530i would be lovely.

Casati wrote: »

Mileage dropped off a bit but at least 30k and potentially 40k with a lot of 600km day’s. Would a 530i do 8 litres per 100km average mixed driving?

Have to go diesel on that mileage

Casati wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on the 530i? Does it drink petrol?

Starting to see a few appearing up north at not crazy money but wonder would a 520d be a better bet?

mickdw wrote: »

You dont buy a 530i if you think a 520d will be a better bet.

The 530e is strange, in that it could suit a shorter ranger driver, or higher mileage drivers, equally. It's entirely dependent on individual usage.

Take someone in a near ideal situation, commuting approx 50km to work & plugging in there too. No chargepoint necessary, just a standard 3 pin socket.

They could conceivably cover their 25,000 km commute, without ever using a drop of petrol. Electricity would cost them just €8 per week :eek:.

They'd have cheaper tolls, cheaper tax, 290hp on tap in a luxury German saloon & that silky smooth torquey ride from the electric/petrol combo. A great proposition - never worry about public chargers, head off across continental €urope (once lockdown ends, in 2024 :eek:), worry free etc.

Conversely, for someone who wouldn't be arsed ever plugging in, belting up & down the motorways several days a week, the 530e isn't for them.

That said, it's actually not that bad on petrol on motorway runs, to be fair. 7l/100km is common enough. Compared to a diesel, at say 5l/100km, the 530e would be 2c/km more expensive.
A return trip from Dublin to Cork, 500km, would be €10 more in the 530e, but given you could easily save that €10 on the days you're within 50km battery range & given the refinement of the petrol, it's nothing really.
Oh, you'd save half of it on the reduced tolls anyway!

It's a pity the new 530e is gone so expensive .

Kramer wrote: »

The 530e is strange, in that it could suit a shorter ranger driver, or higher mileage drivers, equally. It's entirely dependent on individual usage.

Take someone in a near ideal situation, commuting approx 50km to work & plugging in there too. No chargepoint necessary, just a standard 3 pin socket.

They could conceivably cover their 25,000 km commute, without ever using a drop of petrol. Electricity would cost them just €8 per week :eek:.

They'd have cheaper tolls, cheaper tax, 290hp on tap in a luxury German saloon & that silky smooth torquey ride from the electric/petrol combo. A great proposition - never worry about public chargers, head off across continental €urope (once lockdown ends, in 2024 :eek:), worry free etc.

Conversely, for someone who wouldn't be arsed ever plugging in, belting up & down the motorways several days a week, the 530e isn't for them.

That said, it's actually not that bad on petrol on motorway runs, to be fair. 7l/100km is common enough. Compared to a diesel, at say 5l/100km, the 530e would be 2c/km more expensive.
A return trip from Dublin to Cork, 500km, would be €10 more in the 530e, but given you could easily save that €10 on the days you're within 50km battery range & given the refinement of the petrol, it's nothing really.
Oh, you'd save half of it on the reduced tolls anyway!

It's a pity the new 530e is gone so expensive .

Certainly has a lot going for it, the major problem with it has to be the tiny boot- it’s too small for a car of this class. It’s a real shame BMW didn’t take a bit longer with the design to find a solution to placing batteries without affecting the boot space - others such as Volvo have managed to do this. The 530e Touring is much more practical but a lot dearer

Kramer wrote: »

I wouldn't say the boot is tiny. It's not a Hyundai Kona :P.

It's just shallow. It's as long as the non PHEVs & I'd recommend getting the folding rear seats. The biggest issue is the fact it's a saloon & the opening/aperture is small.
Like everything, it's a compromise & might be a good fit for some while entirely unsuitable for others.

We travelled to Switzerland in ours in 2019 for example & the boot was plenty adequate, while I needed to carry a single oven recently (60x60x50cm) & it wasn't possible in the saloon.

Fair enough not tiny in absolute terms but too small for my needs - and a lot smaller than I’d expect in this class of car. The new 330e Touring might suit me better - I haven’t been in one but have heard that interior legroom is v similar to the 5 series now?

fitted the black kidney grille this week:
:cool:

Folks. One for current 530e owners. How reliable has your car been? If you had issues what were they? Would you buy one without a long warranty? Thanks.

Bif wrote: »

Folks. One for current 530e owners. How reliable has your car been? If you had issues what were they? Would you buy one without a long warranty? Thanks.

Bought a 172 530e about 6 weeks ago. Delighted with it when it works like it should. Msport with 20" wheels would have usually put me off but very smooth and comfortable (E92 Msport coupe a few years ago would rattle the fillings out of your teeth on poor roads).

Problem with mine is the dash display only works roughly half the time. Coin toss whether I know how fast I'm going or how much petrol or electricity I have. It's back with BMW for the 2nd time at the moment. Previously they did a system update on the suspicion that the car had failed to update over the air.

Now they say the dash display needs to be replaced. Waiting to be updated on the progress of goodwill warranty, seeing as the car is so old!