600 Houses/Apartments to be built in Temple Carrig

the road providing access to this development will also be the first section of a future northern access road to the N11 at Glenview.

there's nothing much that can be done with the road infrastructure in the town itself, other than provide better cycling facilities.

It seems bizarre to me that a developer can build as many houses as they wants but no attention is given to secondary services likes schools, parks, road infrastructure, bus or rail corridor improvements. By all means build houses but its clear they need to build the supporting services too.

Pressure should be brought to bear on them.

PS - I see the creche but that's not enough

PPS - I am also a blow in but obviously Id like to see the area looked after and not just add pressure to everyone's lives who already live here.

oinkely wrote: »

People need houses, the supply is very short in the area. Every new estate sells out so the houses are needed. Its the associated infrastructure that needs to be developed alongside the houses. Though very little chance of that actually happening! It's up to the CoCo and the planners to deal with those issues - good luck with that!

Simply saying 'we are full' is not really a solution.

School traffic can be resolved by the parents very easily - bikes and shanks mare.
Office traffic will hopefully be somewhat reduced post covid as home working continues.

Glenheron still have vacant houses 1+ year after completion. Marina Village selling 100 apartments to Realis, a German property investor, because glenveagh can’t sell the units. The demand for Farrankelly and the Convent in Delgany could be slow. The common thread? All of these properties are unattainable for first time buyers relying on First time buyers grant. The largest market for new home purchases are now looking further afield because Greystones/Delgany is outside their reach. What will make Coolagad affordable?

They are very reasonable arguments - I was of the impression that all / most of the recent developments had been snapped up very quickly. The price point will certainly impact on take up. FWIW, I found the asking prices of these recent developments to be very expensive, and was happy to not have to try and raise the finance to purchase. However, comparing the asking price for similar rentals it would appear to be more cost effective to service a mortgage than rent, if you can raise the mortgage. Very big if, though, given the asking prices.

Regarding the sale of apartments in Marina Village Greystones to a German fund which also bought from Glenveagh in Dundrum - most of those in Dundrum became social housing via HAP. Is this likely to happen in Marina Village?

I mean, I assume if they can't get enough private rental tenants they'll get HAP ones.

I'm a bit worried as have recently bought there. Any thoughts from boardsies?

Difference will be, minus 100 - 200K

seasidedub wrote: »

Regarding the sale of apartments in Marina Village Greystones to a German fund which also bought from Glenveagh in Dundrum - most of those in Dundrum became social housing via HAP. Is this likely to happen in Marina Village?

I mean, I assume if they can't get enough private rental tenants they'll get HAP ones.

I'm a bit worried as have recently bought there. Any thoughts from boardsies?

They bought apartments in Dun Laoghaire and handed them over to the council for rent at 2 million euro a year. The IT article said that there was no signal that the fund where going to do the same with the Marina ones.

2011 wrote: »

Unfortunately we need a lot more than "a notional line on a map". I would imagine that by the time a road is built it will be insufficient for the homes built in the interviewing period.
So much for the plan

All that's certain is that the initial section will provide access to the Cairn lands as that's what was in the most recent development plan.



...and therein lies the problem.

Where does one even see this "notional line"
Is there a map available which shows where this road is goin to be?

The school numbers are in a crisis already. An Bord Pleansla just agreed to a huge housing developing at Delgany Convent.

This is insane to build Delgany and this - with no infrastructure

the council zoned the land for housing in 2015; the development was inevitable from that point.

There's a lot of complaining about the SHD process but as far as I can see, ABP generally go along with whatever is on the council plan.
There's no reason to think WCC would have decided any differently and it would have been appealed to ABP either way.

School places - I don't know what's happened there. GCC wasn't even supposed to open until next September originally, but even if they were in their new building and taking in a full intake of first years, there would still be a shortage of places. Historically a big proportion of kids leaving primary went to schools outside the town; maybe the Dept was basing it's projections on that, but with more secondary schools available locally now, fewer parents are willing to send their kids off on the Dart (and pay fees...).