Signs you are dealing with a 'Rooter'

orm0nd · 15-02-2021 11:49PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Now there is rooters for you, doing everything in the dark and would break an anvil. The kids get a great laugh out of how rough the place is and his great jersey calves.

I'd say Liv was delighted with her b/d present.

Sheep breeder · 15-02-2021 11:58PM

orm0nd wrote: »

I'd say Liv was delighted with her b/d present.

The kids showed us the video at lunch time, two of them to collect the heifer and in the dark as usual and the shed they put her into with the runt calves. Liv wanted a horse. A really rough yard.;)

Odelay · 16-02-2021 12:13AM

Jaysus lads, you should show us your own yards and how it can be done so well. Where is the link for me to follow?

Dinzee Conlee · 16-02-2021 12:25AM

Odelay wrote: »

Jaysus lads, you should show us your own yards and how it can be done so well. Where is the link for me to follow?

I should throw up a pic of mine - I was half afraid I’d get the car stuck the other day when I brought home a boot full of ration...

lab man · 16-02-2021 01:12AM

I cant understand the phil crowd for all the land and all the hire work they have done that they dont have a bit of tin for the machinery when my father bought his first tractor he also bought timber and galvanised for it to be put in

Suckler · 16-02-2021 07:04AM

Aravo wrote: »

Seen they were doing slurry recently in taughmaconnell in Roscommon. They said it was a 1hr drive in jeep and 2hr drive in tractor. To me that length of drive is pure madness. Can't see how that pays.

Interesting read.

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/agri-business/how-this-contractortillage-farmer-became-a-youtube-sensation-40096167.html

White Clover · 16-02-2021 09:01AM

lab man wrote: »

I cant understand the phil crowd for all the land and all the hire work they have done that they dont have a bit of tin for the machinery when my father bought his first tractor he also bought timber and galvanised for it to be put in

They have a lot of stuff under cover. I think they have around 30 tractors plus all the machinery. It would take time to have housing organised for all of that in fairness.

White Clover · 16-02-2021 09:03AM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Now there is rooters for you, doing everything in the dark and would break an anvil. The kids get a great laugh out of how rough the place is and his great jersey calves.

You're missing the bit where they're contractors too. There's a good chance that they're out spreading/moving slurry or dung during the day.
Its hard to be two places at once.

Kevhog1988 · 16-02-2021 10:06AM

White Clover wrote: »

They have a lot of stuff under cover. I think they have around 30 tractors plus all the machinery. It would take time to have housing organised for all of that in fairness.

Theres very few outfits need 30 tractors.

White Clover · 16-02-2021 10:23AM

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

Theres very few outfits need 30 tractors.

That's their own business and no one else's.

Dinzee Conlee · 16-02-2021 10:27AM

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

Theres very few outfits need 30 tractors.

Ah, sure sometimes lads just like to have things...

You had more machines than I expected in the 'oldest machinery' thread Kev

FintanMcluskey · 16-02-2021 10:54AM

White Clover wrote: »

You're missing the bit where they're contractors too. There's a good chance that they're out spreading/moving slurry or dung during the day.
Its hard to be two places at once.

He earns money off his video’s, that’s the motivation to upload them. People are then going to question what they see in said videos.

At what point do you hire more help or look at your stocking rate?

He uploaded a video where he went on holiday with Liv, then proceeded to leave the hotel during the day to go to work and return in the evening.

Somethings got to give

CloughCasey1 · 16-02-2021 10:57AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

He earns money off his video’s, that’s the motivation to upload them. People are then going to question what they see in said videos.

At what point do you hire more help or look at your stocking rate?

He uploaded a video where he went on holiday with Liv, then proceeded to leave the hotel during the day to go to work and return in the evening.

Somethings got to give

No such thing as bad publicity lads. As an auld lad said one time after he got the chimney relined......IF IT DOESNT DRAW SMOKE IT WILL DRAW TALK!

jaymla627 · 16-02-2021 11:10AM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

No such thing as bad publicity lads. As an auld lad said one time after he got the chimney relined......IF IT DOESNT DRAW SMOKE IT WILL DRAW TALK!

Youd think their was a fortune been made out of beef farming the way lads go to town on the chap, he"s after carving out a great little earner for himself and is blowing the likes of grassmen and farmflix out of the water re views on videos on youtube, the shiny outfits and new gear just dosent sell like farmer Phil and his endless tale of woe videos

orm0nd · 16-02-2021 11:26AM

lab man wrote: »

I cant understand the phil crowd for all the land and all the hire work they have done that they dont have a bit of tin for the machinery when my father bought his first tractor he also bought timber and galvanised for it to be put in

in fairness they seem to be a very genuine hardworking family, they're running a high labour , low cost system most likely making more profit than the guys giving 1500 for stores or 200k for tractors

I wouldn't live with their set up or most likely they wouldn't with mine.

Father Phil is a fountain of knowledge with a great memory, wouldn't mind sharing a pot of tay with him (or something stronger if he was that way inclined)

we come from the same era (well tbh I'd say I have a few more turns on the coil than him) & have similar memories.

K.G. · 16-02-2021 11:42AM

My own thoughts is maybe phil is a little bit cleverer than i thought.he s trying to carve out a retail business and is using the channel to platform it.they had to do something as the pure beef game is very tight.on the contracting side i think they reflect something that happens around the country.contractors are keeping most of the farms in the country afloat, not the other way around and the hours that they put in is not reflected in the rates or respect given to them.if they didnt do it alot of farmers who get very high and mighty about price,turning up and a few little things go wrong would collapse in a heap if they had do that work themselves.love phil myself and the way the family go about their business.not trying to keep with the jones anyway

patsy_mccabe · 16-02-2021 11:52AM

What i find sad about watching Farmer Phil is the route their farm has gone over the years. They've gone from breeding purebred limousin and finishing continental type cattle to now getting jex type calves for free. In a way, its a reflection on the overall beef situation in Ireland.

Their honesty is refreshing too. Too many in the ag game only willing to show brand new shiny equipment and pampered cattle.

Kevhog1988 · 16-02-2021 12:04PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Ah, sure sometimes lads just like to have things...

You had more machines than I expected in the 'oldest machinery' thread Kev

More than id like around the place....

Kevhog1988 · 16-02-2021 12:40PM

K.G. wrote: »

My own thoughts is maybe phil is a little bit cleverer than i thought.he s trying to carve out a retail business and is using the channel to platform it.they had to do something as the pure beef game is very tight.on the contracting side i think they reflect something that happens around the country.contractors are keeping most of the farms in the country afloat, not the other way around and the hours that they put in is not reflected in the rates or respect given to them.if they didnt do it alot of farmers who get very high and mighty about price,turning up and a few little things go wrong would collapse in a heap if they had do that work themselves.love phil myself and the way the family go about their business.not trying to keep with the jones anyway

Once their following grows an account can make a nice few quid from Youtube. Thats without paid partnerships etc. I know a lad who makes digger videos on youtube and he gave up the day job and is concentrating on the content creation full time. I would imagine the editing of the videos is extremely time consuming though.

the below link lets you look at the potential youtube income generated by an account.

https://statsmash.com/index.html

Figerty · 16-02-2021 01:25PM

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

Once their following grows an account can make a nice few quid from Youtube. Thats without paid partnerships etc. I know a lad who makes digger videos on youtube and he gave up the day job and is concentrating on the content creation full time. I would imagine the editing of the videos is extremely time consuming though.

the below link lets you look at the potential youtube income generated by an account.

https://statsmash.com/index.html

Apparently you have to post twice a week to maintain the base, and that's hard to do with quality content.

blue5000 · 16-02-2021 01:51PM

I don't really want to pull all the farmer phil posts out into a new thread, but I think some comments are a bit harsh. Now I realize when you put your self up on the youtube pedestal not all the comments are going to be worth reading, you'd want a thick skin.

Just remember that when you post something up here anyone can read it, including phil.

Kevhog1988 · 16-02-2021 02:06PM

Figerty wrote: »

Apparently you have to post twice a week to maintain the base, and that's hard to do with quality content.

Be a fair bit of work involved in that as well as doing a normal days work too.

CloughCasey1 · 16-02-2021 03:23PM

blue5000 wrote: »

I don't really want to pull all the farmer phil posts out into a new thread, but I think some comments are a bit harsh. Now I realize when you put your self up on the youtube pedestal not all the comments are going to be worth reading, you'd want a thick skin.

Just remember that when you post something up here anyone can read it, including phil.

Well Blue. Every one of his clips and ifarmwefarms on you tube are watched in this house. Young lads love watching them. Fair play to all those lads who show off their set ups and yards. Most lads including myself would set a row of hedges so nobody would be looking back your mouth. If they are making a few bob from them all the better as we aren't making enough from the bread and butter in the first place.

Kevhog1988 · 16-02-2021 03:34PM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Well Blue. Every one of his clips and ifarmwefarms on you tube are watched in this house. Young lads love watching them. Fair play to all those lads who show off their set ups and yards. Most lads including myself would set a row of hedges so nobody would be looking back your mouth. If they are making a few bob from them all the better as we aren't making enough from the bread and butter in the first place.

Ifarm Wefarm is fierce tidy in everything he does. My missus is a photographer and reckons his editing skills are top notch too. Fixes everything as soon as theres any sort of issue with it.The definition of an anti rooter

K.G. · 16-02-2021 03:39PM

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

Once their following grows an account can make a nice few quid from Youtube. Thats without paid partnerships etc. I know a lad who makes digger videos on youtube and he gave up the day job and is concentrating on the content creation full time. I would imagine the editing of the videos is extremely time consuming though.

the below link lets you look at the potential youtube income generated by an account.

https://statsmash.com/index.html

Yeah maybe so but when you look at grassmen you wouldn't be long figuring out the money is in the merchandise not the videos

visatorro · 16-02-2021 10:00PM

patsy_mccabe wrote:

What i find sad about watching Farmer Phil is the route their farm has gone over the years. They've gone from breeding purebred limousin and finishing continental type cattle to now getting jex type calves for free. In a way, its a reflection on the overall beef situation in Ireland.

They aren't taking calves for free. Said this year calves were abit dearer. They prob do deals if they spread slurry on the farm.

JustJoe7240 · 16-02-2021 10:41PM

visatorro wrote: »

They aren't taking calves for free. Said this year calves were abit dearer. They prob do deals if they spread slurry on the farm.

They're probably talking about fresian bulls, Noone is paying anything for jersey cross bulls

patsy_mccabe · 16-02-2021 11:21PM

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

They're probably talking about fresian bulls, Noone is paying anything for jersey cross bulls

I asked him once on YouTube, what he was paying for jex types and he said he got them for free.

mengele · 17-02-2021 12:38AM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Youd think their was a fortune been made out of beef farming the way lads go to town on the chap, he"s after carving out a great little earner for himself and is blowing the likes of grassmen and farmflix out of the water re views on videos on youtube, the shiny outfits and new gear just dosent sell like farmer Phil and his endless tale of woe videos

Shiny kit is very boring at this stage. For awhile thats all that was on YouTube. Its this older stuff and tales about it thats pure gold in my mind. Would rather watch 30 mins of older stuff and breakdowns, blockages etc than 30 mins of the new stuff doing 50k around the field.

I watch all Farmer Phils videos and Ifarmwefarm for different reasons.

Aravo · 17-02-2021 11:54PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

During the fodder crisis in 2013 some of the local marts started sourcing and distributing imported fodder to those in need. Towards the end of the crisis the fodder situation locally was getting critical and I decided I was better avail of some for my own stock. On the day of the next delivery I was queued in the mart yard along with other local men awaiting our fair share. There was a tractor with a front loader available to load anyone with a jeep/car and trailer as needed.

Eventually it was my turn and having loaded the bale I stood around chatting with different lad's about the weather, cattle trade ect. Just as the last bales were being divided up in lands a local rooter with a battered Caddy van and an ancient 6x4 single axle cattle trailer. He managed to secure a bale for himself and the tractor driver set about loading the badly needed fodder. The bales were 8x4 and well packed although of poor quality. I only did ordinary maths in school but it was plain for everyone to see that this was going to be a tight squeeze.

Our man instructed the tractor driver to force the bale into the trailer while he sat in the van with the brake pedal to the floor as the handbrake wasn't working. The tractor driver duly obliged and by the time he'd pushed the van and trailer from one side of the yard to the other the bale was about halfway inside. After a quick inspection the general consensus was that it was wedged tight and it wouldn't stir for the short trip out the road. Someone remarked as to how the bale would be extracted from the trailer at the end of the journey. Our man would have kept lots of stock and all of them badly in need of sustenance at the time. He informed the worried bystander that there was 20 cows in a yard at the house and they could "eat it out of it". Sure enough a neighbour of the rooter told me that a few hours later there was nothing but an empty trailer and a pile of orange twines surrounded by 20 unimpressed cow's.

Brilliant post. A true rooter will always find a solution. There is no defeating them.

Signs you are dealing with a 'Rooter'

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