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WandaVision - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

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  • #662
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    They did it with Spiderman when introducing him in Civil War, and didn't really give any history into him becoming Spiderman in Homecoming.

    I pointed to the differences with Spider-man in my post. Not only have we seen many more movies and shows of Parker but they had Stark be able to give an overview of what he has been up to and we still got to see most of him dealing with his new powers in school, the suit etc.

    One teenage boy dealing with new powers is also far more relatable and easier to get up to speed on his personal relationships than four adult scientists/astronauts. Without seeing who they were before powers it is tough to convey how the world has changed for them now, impacted their relationships with each other and people outside the team.

    I'd love for them to skip it but with the new focus on space in this new phase, between Fury and SWORD already, I don't see how they skip them getting their powers or why they'd skip that potential tie in opportunity.


  • #663
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    What? Captain America as the Human Torch? Knowing Wanda she'll probably cast somebody like, I dunno, Killmonger for example.

    This too shall pass.



  • #664
    GSPfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Varik wrote: »
    With the comics I always liked that Spiderman and the Human Torch (F4) were friends and at times roommates. With it all heading together for the MCU that's all I really want that they're both close in age, but might not be the easiest to sort out why a teenager was with a secret Sword space mission.

    This could still kind of happen. Peter got blipped for 5 years. His friend Johnny may not have been blipped, aged 5 years and is now Zac Efron... I mean The Human Torch.

    Seriously though have you seen the fan art of Krasinski, Blunt, Efron, and John Cena as the Fantastic 4. I’d be totally up for that casting.


  • #665
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    flazio wrote: »
    What? Captain America as the Human Torch? Knowing Wanda she'll probably cast somebody like, I dunno, Killmonger for example.

    Chris Evans (Cap) played Human Torch in the first F4 movies... It would be parodying Evan Peters replacing Aaron Taylor Johnson as Pietro


  • #666
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    Chris Evans (Cap) played Human Torch in the first F4 movies... It would be parodying Evan Peters replacing Aaron Taylor Johnson as Pietro

    And Killmonger was Johnny Storm in the 2015 F4.


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  • #667
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,843 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Few big spoilers on Youtube apparently


  • #668
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    And Killmonger was Johnny Storm in the 2015 F4.

    Indeed, but I've a suspicion the other poster didn't make that connection on purpose :pac:


  • #669
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Come on, what do you take me for?
    4nxcj7krkhg11.jpg

    This too shall pass.



  • #670
    Eduard Khil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Eduard Khil


    Chris Evans one good

    Killmonger one HULK SMASH HEAD OFF WALL

    If anything happens with F4 in this time frame it'll be before they have gone up on any adventures a little part of me thinks Monica has gone to meet Agent Coulson rather than Reed


  • #671
    klose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,228 ✭✭✭✭klose


    I've read she hasn't been sacked as she was technically not under contract? As such, they just aren't hiring her again?


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  • #672
    Jayla Blue Thud
    Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Jayla Blue Thud


    Varik wrote: »
    Without their powers I don't think they'd be having much input to the MCU up to that point.

    It's not like they're mutants, who as a group would have effected things.

    One of the most intelligent people and foremost scientists on the planet? For example around iron man two I'd have expected he would have been contacted alongside hammer industries to recreate the ironman suit


  • #673
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    klose wrote: »
    I've read she hasn't been sacked as she was technically not under contract? As such, they just aren't hiring her again?

    Huh? Who are you talking about? Someone on Wandavision was sacked?

    This too shall pass.



  • #674
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,290 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    klose wrote: »
    I've read she hasn't been sacked as she was technically not under contract? As such, they just aren't hiring her again?

    I'm guessing this is for the Mando thread


  • #675
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,403 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Santana Greasy Tremor wrote: »
    One of the most intelligent people and foremost scientists on the planet? For example around iron man two I'd have expected he would have been contacted alongside hammer industries to recreate the ironman suit

    Hank Pym created Ultron in the comics he had nothing to do with that in the MCU theyll explain the omission of F4 by Reed being a college professor or they were off planet training for space exploration or theyll make them up and coming rather than already established characters


  • #676
    The Inbetween is mine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'm guessing this is for the Mando thread

    Did you not hear?! It's bigger than Fantastic 4 joining wandavision....
    baby Yoda is the using the force to control Wanda and is the real villain here


  • #677
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    RobbingBandit wrote: »
    Hank Pym created Ultron in the comics he had nothing to do with that in the MCU theyll explain the omission of F4 by Reed being a college professor or they were off planet training for space exploration or theyll make them up and coming rather than already established characters

    Smart guys and astronauts you can definitely explain away for not being front and center so far, sure we never heard of SWORD until now. We saw in Endgame how they weaved a solid explanation about what the Ancient One was doing during the attack on NY.

    What they can't really explain as easily aside from some multiverse angle is if the F4 have been around with their powers and somehow just stayed out of every incident until now, only to suddenly take a key role now in protecting the world.


  • #678
    GSPfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    Santana Greasy Tremor wrote: »
    One of the most intelligent people and foremost scientists on the planet? For example around iron man two I'd have expected he would have been contacted alongside hammer industries to recreate the ironman suit

    I know covid has messed with all our perceptions of time but Iron Man 2 was in 2010. Wandavision is taking place in late 2023. That’s 13 years so even if Reed Richards turns up at the age of 35 years of age then he would have been 22 around Iron Man 2.

    I think we can accept that no matter how smart he was at the age of 22 it’s completely plausible they weren’t running to his college campus to help sort out Iron Mans problems.


  • #679
    Ridley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭Ridley


    The real trick with the FF will be finding a hook with them that makes them special within the MCU. They've got that ushering in of the Marvel Age aspect in the comics but it'll be easy to come across as just another group of superheroes on-screen.

    Multiverses have been done, plucking them out of a different time period has been done, and just finding them missing on a Fantastic Voyage style adventure has been covered with Ant-Man.


  • #680
    Jayla Blue Thud
    Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Jayla Blue Thud


    GSPfan wrote: »
    I know covid has messed with all our perceptions of time but Iron Man 2 was in 2010. Wandavision is taking place in late 2023. That’s 13 years so even if Reed Richards turns up at the age of 35 years of age then he would have been 22 around Iron Man 2.

    I think we can accept that no matter how smart he was at the age of 22 it’s completely plausible they weren’t running to his college campus to help sort out Iron Mans problems.

    My god endgame feels like 10 years ago at this stage


  • #681
    Jayla Blue Thud
    Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Jayla Blue Thud


    Don't mean to bring this off topic but you'd feel the best way to do f4 as a trilogy of non crossover movies where they start around college age and you see them grow into their roles over a few movies. I hope they avoid to much crossover with new characters. Allow them to develop on their own and a few movies in you can do a crossover


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  • #682
    PTH2009
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    Is the Thing not a lot older then the rest of the Fantastic 4 ?


  • #683
    Ridley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭Ridley


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Is the Thing not a lot older then the rest of the Fantastic 4 ?

    Ben Grimm and Reed Richards were at university together along with Doctor Doom (it's where his experiment blows up in his face before he bogs off back to Latveria). Sue Storm's slightly, or a worrying amount, younger depending on when published.

    Johnny Storm's the same age to a couple of years older than Peter Parker.


  • #684
    Mark Hamill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,850 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    flazio wrote: »
    Come on, what do you take me for?
    4nxcj7krkhg11.jpg

    Why does Evan's Johnny Storm only have 1 arm?


  • #685
    Sarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    Why does Evan's Johnny Storm only have 1 arm?

    He was considering the role of Winter Soldier.


  • #686
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,593 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    Why does Evan's Johnny Storm only have 1 arm?

    He had an itch in his back?


  • #687
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    Why does Evan's Johnny Storm only have 1 arm?

    The irony of the username asking this question is not lost on me.
    Arms tend to be disposable assets across the Marvel sphere. Bucky, Coulson, Yo-yo, Misty Knight and Ulysses Klaue have all needed helping hands.

    This too shall pass.



  • #688
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,453 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


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    Eduard Khil wrote: »
    Chris Evans one good

    Killmonger one HULK SMASH HEAD OFF WALL

    If anything happens with F4 in this time frame it'll be before they have gone up on any adventures a little part of me thinks Monica has gone to meet Agent Coulson rather than Reed

    Coulson would be a very difficult character to bring in.

    He died in Avengers.
    I don't think his return in Agents has been mentioned on film.
    Agent coulson after 7 seasons of AoS is in a very different place - very different.

    If they brough Coulson back and utterly ignored everything that happened in AoS I would be annoyed.


  • #689
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Re Coulson on AOS.
    He's dead there too. Dies at the end of Season 5, Clark played a doppelganger in Season 6 and a Life Model Decoy of Coulson in Season 7.
    Way too much back story to fill everyone in on.

    This too shall pass.



  • #690
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,531 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    flazio wrote: »
    Re Coulson on AOS.
    He's dead there too. Dies at the end of Season 5, Clark played a doppelganger in Season 6 and a Life Model Decoy of Coulson in Season 7.
    Way too much back story to fill everyone in on.

    You don't need to fill anyone in on anything more than what a
    LMD
    is, there's no need to reconnect AOS into the MCU or to fill people in on what happened.
    Coulson died and here's a robot.


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  • #691
    [Deleted User]
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    Varik wrote: »
    You don't need to fill anyone in on anything more than what a
    LMD
    is, there's no need to reconnect AOS into the MCU or to fill people in on what happened.
    Coulson died and here's a robot.

    FYI I'm on AOS Season 3 (binge watching) so, I'm up to where Coulson has a
    robotic fore arm

    Let's keep this to WandaVision - there's a thread for AOS, which I'm avoiding.


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