What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

Effects · 15-02-2021 09:34PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

One I have never come across on here is the Kilbeggan Small Batch Rye, anyone ever had it?

I got it before, after trying another rye whiskey at Whiskey Live one year. I really liked it.

I think it's still the one that was distilled by Alex Chasko from Teelings, before he moved. I could be wrong on that now though.

Electric Nitwit · 15-02-2021 09:40PM

2021 Midleton Very Rare is released on Thursday apparently

2011abc · 15-02-2021 10:00PM

Just picked up a 4 pot still minis pack from SV Celbridge ( a rare occasion in any shop when asking paid off ) as I’m going to try go on the wagon for Lent .Once again it’s a 2 horse race although the Green Spot maybe nosed a bit ahead of RB in the also rans category .John’s Lane good , Barry Crockett great ! 3+ times as good as #2 ? Probably ...

L1011 · 15-02-2021 10:54PM

Price-wise it's more like 4.5x the price to bridge, Johns Lane and Green Spot are often on decent offers, Redbreast less so but a few quid.

Its a very odd set to have such a high price product in it so cheap.

2011abc · 15-02-2021 10:59PM

brinty wrote: »

Going between
Teelings single malt
Jameson black barrel
Green spot

Have to get into scotch yet, have been told to try some speysides

Have unopened Jim Beam and Jim Beam maple too but I'll leave then be for now

American and even scotch (!) is a far less'safe' bet than irish .Are you finding the Teelings far and away the best of those three?Its what got me into whiskey after 3-4 decades of hating it

BonnieSituation · 15-02-2021 11:09PM

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

2021 Midleton Very Rare is released on Thursday apparently

Interesting to see the absurdity

OwlParliament · 15-02-2021 11:28PM

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

2021 Midleton Very Rare is released on Thursday apparently

Honest question. Do people on this forum actually get this to drink or is it mainly bought by people to flip?
Just wondering what it's like as I've never tasted it.....I think!

BonnieSituation · 15-02-2021 11:41PM

OwlParliament wrote: »

Honest question. Do people on this forum actually get this to drink or is it mainly bought by people to flip?
Just wondering what it's like as I've never tasted it.....I think!

I would say those on this forum are more inclined to drink it.

As I've said here before, I have an 18 there for a special occasion... Just waiting on that occasion...

L1011 · 16-02-2021 12:37AM

OwlParliament wrote: »

Honest question. Do people on this forum actually get this to drink or is it mainly bought by people to flip?
Just wondering what it's like as I've never tasted it.....I think!

This forum - drink, except for a few completionist collectors (who probably also got a second to drink)

In general I'd say the majority of bottles are never opened.

killbillvol2 · 16-02-2021 01:32AM

2011abc wrote: »

American and even scotch (!) is a far less'safe' bet than irish .

What does that even mean?

There are over 130 distilleries in Scotland catering to every conceivable taste in whisky. According to Google there are over 1500 distilleries in the US. I'd wager it would be possible to find something that suits there too. Not to even start on Japan, Taiwan, India, Australia etc.

And there are plenty of distilleries in ireland producing sh1te or, worse still, producing nothing and sticking a label on it.

roganjosh · 16-02-2021 04:04AM

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

2021 Midleton Very Rare is released on Thursday apparently

Where did you hear that? I can't find any info online

Electric Nitwit · 16-02-2021 07:01AM

roganjosh wrote: »

Where did you hear that? I can't find any info online

On the Friends of Midleton facebook group, so it's not official but I'd say it's likely correct

OwlParliament wrote: »

Honest question. Do people on this forum actually get this to drink or is it mainly bought by people to flip?
Just wondering what it's like as I've never tasted it.....I think!

I bought one for each of the kids when they were born, to give them when they're grown up. I genuinely hope they'll open it and drink it (with me!) but obviously the fact they might be worth something if they don't want it is a factor
Otherwise I'd drink it (but don't think it's actually worth that much. I won't be getting one but thought people might like to know)

I suspect this year loads will buy it in the hope of a quick profit. But the rumours seem to be that supply will be good this year, so hopefully flippers don't make anything

FileNotFound · 16-02-2021 09:42AM

OwlParliament wrote: »

Honest question. Do people on this forum actually get this to drink or is it mainly bought by people to flip?
Just wondering what it's like as I've never tasted it.....I think!

I've ruined an awful lot of now valuable bottles of MVR by pouring them down my neck.

Whiskey is for drinking - not looking at.

But i didn't get hold of a 2020 due to all the sh1ts buying to resell - won't pay over cost.

They are usually very nice be fair. Often my Birthday gift from herself.

Cazale · 16-02-2021 10:02AM

Talking to a fella from Midleton the other day and the 2021 release will be much larger than the 2020 so supply shouldn't be as big an issue. Hopefully we won't see people buying 80 bottles between them before they hit the shelves like 2020.

I remember when I first got into music I was obsessed with the Beatles because everybody said they were the greatest band ever. I eventually made my way onto Dylan, Zappa and Tom Waits etc and my mind was blown. I'll occasionally go back to The Beatles and really enjoy them but my heart is elsewhere.

That's how I was with Midleton when i started with Whiskey. As a novice I viewed it as the pinnacle of Irish Whiskey but I started getting into cask strengths and peated etc and Midleton wasn't as special anymore. I'll still go back and enjoy but I'd rather get two Redbreast Cask strengths for the price.

odyssey06 · 16-02-2021 10:06AM

Think someone was asking earlier about Speyside scotch?

Glenlivet would be a good introduction to the Speyside style.
DrinksHero in Cork have the 12 year old on offer - which imo is much nicer than the supermarket stocked NAS Founder's Reserve.

Comes with a pair of matching glasses for €45.
https://www.drinkshero.com/collections/scotch-whisky-1/products/the-glenlivet-12yr-70cl-gift-pack

Starlord_01 · 16-02-2021 10:29AM

Cazale wrote: »

Talking to a fella from Midleton the other day and the 2021 release will be much larger than the 2020 so supply shouldn't be as big an issue. Hopefully we won't see people buying 80 bottles between them before they hit the shelves like 2020.

Hopefully - girlfriend & I buying our first house next month and think the 2021 release would look great on our drinks table :cool::D

Cazale · 16-02-2021 11:00AM

Starlord_01 wrote:

Hopefully - girlfriend & I buying our first house next month and think the 2021 release would look great on our drinks table

Good luck with both.

OwlParliament · 16-02-2021 11:14AM

Might get a MVR 2021 this year as hopefully we'll be moving into the new house. Although I am planning on opening my Barry Crockett if that actually happens.
On a slight tangent, would anyone recommend a good Irish whiskey podcast?

odyssey06 · 16-02-2021 11:31AM

OwlParliament wrote: »

On a slight tangent, would anyone recommend a good Irish whiskey podcast?

PotStilled with Matt Healy.

I liked this one with former Kilbeggan \ Cooley brand ambassador John Cashman.
https://potstilled.com/2020/05/20/episode-q5-john-cashman-industry-veteran-global-brand-ambassador/

ZV Yoda · 16-02-2021 11:32AM

Cazale wrote: »

Talking to a fella from Midleton the other day and the 2021 release will be much larger than the 2020 so supply shouldn't be as big an issue. Hopefully we won't see people buying 80 bottles between them before they hit the shelves like 2020.

I remember when I first got into music I was obsessed with the Beatles because everybody said they were the greatest band ever. I eventually made my way onto Dylan, Zappa and Tom Waits etc and my mind was blown. I'll occasionally go back to The Beatles and really enjoy them but my heart is elsewhere.

That's how I was with Midleton when i started with Whiskey. As a novice I viewed it as the pinnacle of Irish Whiskey but I started getting into cask strengths and peated etc and Midleton wasn't as special anymore. I'll still go back and enjoy but I'd rather get two Redbreast Cask strengths for the price.

Whoa!... I agree that Midelton is far from the pinnacle of Irish whiskey, but that's no cause to lose the run of ourselves here! The Beatles have created so many masterpieces that they'd never fit in just one bottle. They're an exclusive "never to be repeated" gift set containing:

Roe &Co. Feelgood and accessible "8 Days A Week"
Lagavulin 16. Perfect for when the "Rain" comes on those wintery nights
Red Spot. Often overlooked thanks to the more popular siblings in this collection, "Tomorrow Never Knows" when it will be re-released.
Bushmills 21. For a special "Day in The Life" occasions - to be savoured right till the very last note.

I'd argue that Dylan is actually the Midleton of the music world. Everybody's familiar with the name and assume he's the best at what he does, even though he's been regurgitating the same thing for years. Nobody under 40 listens to him.

Tom Waits is the Laphroaig. Very good at what he does, but he's an acquired taste. Not many people could spend a whole evening in his company.

As for Zappa, well he's Jameson Cold Brew. In theory, a very interesting blend of styles and tastes. But in reality, has very few fans and is usually heavily discounted.

Cazale · 16-02-2021 11:33AM

OwlParliament wrote:

Might get a MVR 2021 this year as hopefully we'll be moving into the new house. Although I am planning on opening my Barry Crockett if that actually happens. On a slight tangent, would anyone recommend a good Irish whiskey podcast?

In order of preference.

Potstilled Radio
Whiskey Chats
Stories and Sips

I started one called Japan Distilled which deals with all Japanese spirits including whisky, rum and shochu. Decent so far.

Cazale · 16-02-2021 11:58AM

ZV Yoda wrote:

Whoa!... I agree that Midelton is far from the pinnacle of Irish whiskey, but that's no cause to lose the run of ourselves here! The Beatles have created so many masterpieces that they'd never fit in just one bottle. They're an exclusive "never to be repeated" gift set containing: Roe &Co. Feelgood and accessible "8 Days A Week" Lagavulin 16. Perfect for when the "Rain" comes on those wintery nights Red Spot. Often overlooked thanks to the more popular siblings in this collection, "Tomorrow Never Knows" when it will be re-released. Bushmills 21. For a special "Day in The Life" occasions - to be savoured right till the very last note. I'd argue that Dylan is actually the Midleton of the music world. Everybody's familiar with the name and assume he's the best at what he does, even though he's been regurgitating the same thing for years. Nobody under 40 listens to him.

ZV Yoda wrote:

Tom Waits is the Laphroaig. Very good at what he does, but he's an acquired taste. Not many people could spend a whole evening in his company.

ZV Yoda wrote:

As for Zappa, well he's Jameson Cold Brew. In theory, a very interesting blend of styles and tastes. But in reality, has very few fans and is usually heavily discounted.

Blasphemy. Dylan is a 79 year old single malt. Priceless! Waits is an experimental cask strength Laphroaig alright. Zappa is all method and all madness.

ZV Yoda · 16-02-2021 12:15PM

Cazale wrote: »

Blasphemy. Dylan is a 79 year old single malt. Priceless! Waits is an experimental cask strength Laphroaig alright. Zappa is all method and all madness.

Touché

As the old saying goes "Never discuss whiskey or music". Stick to safe topics like sports, politics & religion.

OwlParliament · 16-02-2021 01:20PM

Thanks for the pod recommendations.
Japan Distilled has another following as of this morning!

BonnieSituation · 16-02-2021 05:02PM

ZV Yoda wrote: »

Whoa!... I agree that Midelton is far from the pinnacle of Irish whiskey, but that's no cause to lose the run of ourselves here! The Beatles have created so many masterpieces that they'd never fit in just one bottle. They're an exclusive "never to be repeated" gift set containing:
Roe &Co. Feelgood and accessible "8 Days A Week"

Lagavulin 16. Perfect for when the "Rain" comes on those wintery nights

Red Spot. Often overlooked thanks to the more popular siblings in this collection, "Tomorrow Never Knows" when it will be re-released.

Bushmills 21. For a special "Day in The Life" occasions - to be savoured right till the very last note.

I'd argue that Dylan is actually the Midleton of the music world. Everybody's familiar with the name and assume he's the best at what he does, even though he's been regurgitating the same thing for years. Nobody under 40 listens to him.

Tom Waits is the Laphroaig. Very good at what he does, but he's an acquired taste. Not many people could spend a whole evening in his company.

As for Zappa, well he's Jameson Cold Brew. In theory, a very interesting blend of styles and tastes. But in reality, has very few fans and is usually heavily discounted.

Cazale wrote: »

Blasphemy. Dylan is a 79 year old single malt. Priceless! Waits is an experimental cask strength Laphroaig alright. Zappa is all method and all madness.

* gets coat and runs *

The Inbetween is mine · 16-02-2021 07:23PM

Interesting, new Japanese regulations on what constitutes Japanese whisky ....many points.. but distillation must happen in a Japanese distillery...
Nikka From The Barrel will no longer classed as a Japanese whisky...

Black Sheep · 16-02-2021 07:38PM

The Japanese have been importing absolute **** tonnes of Scotch and Canadian whisky and blending and relabelling. Seems like this was on the cards for some time.

What was happening before was a bit like as if an Irish whisky company imported Scotch and later sold a product labelled as Irish whisky that contained a large amount of that Scotch. At least there's more truth to it being Irish whiskey if what's in the bottle is 100% from an Irish distillery (Bushmills etc, although I'd say calling it 100% Irish would cause an aneurysm in the local village).

I have read that the likes of Nikka have tried to say that they own Scottish distilleries and that it is their tradition that they pay homage and make use of these Scottish heritage distilleries.

You'd wonder if the Scottish Whisky Association haven't been just as happy to have bulk exports labelled as Japanese whisky in the end... They wouldn't exactly want Scottish whisky exported to Japan and then for a Japanese whisky company to be selling it as genuine "Scottish whisky".

Does make it a bit challenging what you call the hybrid stuff, which presumably is the greater amount of what the exported Scotch is user for. Just googled it there any seems like the emerging term is 'international blend'.

Cazale · 16-02-2021 08:15PM

Black Sheep wrote:

I have read that the likes of Nikka have tried to say that they own Scottish distilleries and that it is their tradition that they pay homage and make use of these Scottish heritage distilleries.

Yeah they own Ben Nevis distillery and use that stock in some of their blends. I did a Japanese tasting last year and the first 'Japanese' whisky was scotch. Glad to see such an anomaly being addressed.

Hogzy · 16-02-2021 08:19PM

I wish Ireland brought in regulations which stated what distilleries the whiskey came from. For example if you buy a new brand's 15yr single malt it would state that the whiskey was aged for 12yrs in Cooley/Bushmills etc and then 3yrs in X Distillery.

Effects · 16-02-2021 08:34PM

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Nikka From The Barrel will no longer classed as a Japanese whisky...

What percentage comes from outside Japan? Is there a breakdown anywhere?

Hogzy wrote: »

I wish Ireland brought in regulations which stated what distilleries the whiskey came from.

I think that'll be a long way off. People seem happy with the rise in Irish whiskey, that they won't want to rock the boat.

What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

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