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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,303 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Trump is still sharper in the mind than Biden though

    Why did Biden anihilate him in the election debates then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,207 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    The outcome was as expected, but Trump having such a weak defense and the Republicans who voted for it showed them up for they are in terms of party allegiance.

    McConnells words at the end were bizarre because it showed just how much they blamed Trump, and that they still voted to hold him responsible. Crazy stuff out of them. I don't think Trump will try to contest in 2024 but part of me hopes he does so as to take votes from the Republican candidate.

    Listening to McConnell's words words it seems to be a message to the Republicans. We will back this man to try and save our party, we will lie to save our party, we will debase this party to save our party.

    But in four years time, this party needs to remember the damage this man has done and needs to ensure he is no where near the presidential election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Trump is still sharper in the mind than Biden though

    trump had to take a dementia test, and he couldn't figure out it was a dementia test. That is not a sign of a sharp mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    joe40 wrote: »
    Good, he deserves it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,207 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Trump is still sharper in the mind than Biden though

    Absolute bullshìte, watch the debates again and then come back and try claim this lie as truth!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    They lost their case what are you on about?

    Lost their case on what grounds?

    Morally beholded to the cnut that is on trail, where 50 percent of jury is of his own party.. yeah that seems a good trail.. if I ever get to that point in my life, remind me to get half of my family on the jury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭joe40


    Trump is still sharper in the mind than Biden though

    Seriously the guy who talked about antibiotics treating virus. He is not only immoral he lacks basic intelligence.
    He came from a privileged background, bankrupted businesses, and eventually became a reality TV star.
    That is one of my biggest gripes about Trump his sheer stupidity.
    I'm of very average intelligence but I hated living in a world where I was smarter then the POTUS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,303 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Listening to McConnell's words words it seems to be a message to the Republicans. We will back this man to try and save our party, we will lie to save our party, we will debase this party to save our party.

    But in four years time, this party needs to remember the damage this man has done and needs to ensure he is no where near the presidential election.

    4 years is too late. GOP grassroot and state organisations are going after the senators who voted against Trump like they did with Liz Cheney.

    If the GOP heads don't get to grips with this, all that will be left will be the zealots. Which is why I think we will see a civil war of sorts start to emerge within that party.

    Democrats should ignore it and focus on making their positions in all 3 branches count and then fight in 2024 on a message of sustaining that progress. Hopefully keep the GOP at bay until 2028.


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He’s not perfect at all. I do not fawn over him. I just think the Democratic Party are evil.

    Yes you do... The Dems are a spectrum of politics so a tad silly. If anything Trump is evil, what does it say about you that you spend so much time defending his behaviour? There's literally nothing he could do that you and certain other posters wouldn't defend... Pretty sad really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,008 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Not convicting Trump was always inevitable.

    I guess the Democrats feel like they've exposed the naked partisanship of the Republicans, but I'm not sure any of it will make much difference.

    I can't imagine there is any significant number of people for whom the failure to convict is some kind of 'road to Damascus' moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    joe40 wrote: »
    Seriously the guy who talked about antibiotics treating virus. He is not only immoral he lacks basic intelligence.
    He came from a privileged background, bankrupted businesses, and eventually became a reality TV star.
    That is one of my biggest gripes about Trump his sheer stupidity.
    I'm of very average intelligence but I hated living in a world where I was smarter then the POTUS.

    You know that people get secondary bacterial infection right??


  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He’s not perfect at all. I do not fawn over him. I just think the Democratic Party are evil.

    And this is at least partly because you are ill-informed. You believed that Obama was the "king of drone strikes" even though a quick Google would have told you that was certainly not the case.

    And yet there has been no suggestion that you finding out that fact had any influence on your opinion of either party. And this is because you have an inherent bias to never want to see the democratic party as anything but evil, and you will continue to have that bias no matter what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭joe40


    You know that people get secondary bacterial infection right??

    That wasn't what he was talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,531 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump is still sharper in the mind than Biden though

    And yet, with all the manipulation of the postal system, the attempted extortion of the Ukraine prime minister, seeking illegal further interference from China and other countries, Trump was still beaten by "sleepy joe".

    Losing the popular vote - twice.

    I'd say he's gutted.

    Must tear him up inside.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    osarusan wrote: »
    Not convicting Trump was always inevitable.

    I guess the Democrats feel like they've exposed the naked partisanship of the Republicans, but I'm not sure any of it will make much difference.

    I can't imagine there is any significant number of people for whom the failure to convict is some kind of 'road to Damascus' moment.

    They’ve done nothing but expose their hypocrisy and distain for the constitution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭joe40


    Lost their case on what grounds?

    Morally beholded to the cnut that is on trail, where 50 percent of jury is of his own party.. yeah that seems a good trail.. if I ever get to that point in my life, remind me to get half of my family on the jury.

    Does some clown think this in any way resembled a court case....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,207 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Biden thought he was running against Bush at one point. What does that say about him?

    And Trump thought the army took over the airports during the civil war, What does that say about him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,303 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    osarusan wrote: »
    Not convicting Trump was always inevitable.

    I guess the Democrats feel like they've exposed the naked partisanship of the Republicans, but I'm not sure any of it will make much difference.

    I can't imagine there is any significant number of people for whom the failure to convict is some kind of 'road to Damascus' moment.

    McConnell gave the Democrats campaign material with his closing speech because that can be played, with the message that the man who said this, voted to not convict the person he is talking about. And this in the supposed party of law and order.

    It won't make a massive difference but the biggest losers in the last 3 months have been the GOP itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,207 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    He also thought he was running for senate.

    And Trump thought the army took over the airports during the civil war, What does that say about him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    joe40 wrote: »
    Does some clown think this in any way resembled a court case....

    I'm laughing out loud at the person that thanked this post.

    Idiocy, it is extreme.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Biden thought he was running against Bush at one point. What does that say about him?

    That he used a wrong word in a speech.

    trump took a test designed to test for dementia, then boasted about it, not realising it was a test for dementia, no word mixups, nothing, just donald trump taking a dementia test and spending time filling in the sheet of paper, and not realising or checking with someone what it was testing, then going on to boast about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭joe40


    I'm laughing out loud at the person that thanked this post.

    Idiocy, it is extreme.

    Would you expect any less? Priceless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    I'm laughing out loud at the person that thanked this post.

    Idiocy, it is extreme.

    Court cases tend to be run fairly. This was a hit job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    joe40 wrote: »
    Would you expect any less? Priceless

    How about dealing with my arguments rather than bully tactics?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,303 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Court cases tend to be run fairly. This was a hit job.

    By who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,098 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    This was my favourite speech.


    Court cases tend to be run fairly. This was a hit job.

    In a fair court case none of the jury decide beforehand what their verdict will be and they certainly don't meet with the defence to plan strategy.


  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How about dealing with my arguments rather than bully tactics?

    Would you like to deal with my argument since you're demanding others do likewise?

    Edit: I'll take that as a no then. As expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,207 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Court cases tend to be run fairly. This was a hit job.

    Really?

    So every court case has been run "fairly"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Court cases tend to be run fairly. This was a hit job.

    Your idea of a hit job, as we all see is totally different for the rest.. a court case should be judged on with an impartial jury.. this case had a jury that was complicit in the crime that was committed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,303 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Things could be about to get even more difficult for Donal.

    Link

    So the most significant case, looking into Trump's business right now, the most potentially serious one, is the Manhattan DA's case. This is the case where the DA has been trying to get Trump's tax returns for years now, and even though that case is now before the U.S. Supreme Court for a second time, from what we know, the investigation is pretty far along. Also, because Trump has been trying to block Vance from getting his records, there's a great deal that is in the public record.

    So we know the DA is looking at Trump, his family and his business for possible bank, insurance or tax fraud, including felonies that could carry significant prison time. So though the Supreme Court ruled seven to two against Trump the first time, the former president came back with a new claim. But most experts think that, eventually, Vance will get the records he's seeking, and if that happens and if Vance decides he believes crimes were committed, there could be indictments this year.
    We just learned this week that Georgia prosecutors are looking into whether Trump violated election statutes when he engaged in an all-out campaign to change the results in Georgia. So although that case has just begun, it actually could proceed pretty quickly because it would be more straightforward than the complex financial crimes the Manhattan DA is looking into. Then the New York attorney general is looking into whether Trump failed to pay proper New York state taxes. In addition, the District of Columbia AG is looking into whether Trump's inaugural committee violated charities laws when it paid hefty sums to Trump's hotel. And there are multiple civil suits, so there's a lot of litigation

    And the real reason why Trump wishes so badly that he was still President...
    So in several of the cases, he's been arguing so far that his status as president means he deserves special treatment, that he can withhold records, testimony and generally stymie the probes. And in some of the investigations, the U.S. Department of Justice even intervened, even though the matter was over Trump's private actions. That's why many of these cases have taken so long, but now Trump doesn't have those extra tools. He's just an ordinary citizen. So while he can and he is arguing that the investigations are politically motivated, he has to defend himself now like everyone else.

    This thread could be quite busy for another while yet.


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