Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

The Big Easy · 07-02-2021 10:42pm

fullstop wrote: »

Don’t know what ‘people’ expected, but personally would have expected it to give him a boost and put a bit of a run together. he should have been threatening Ryder Cup this year.

Give him a chance! Season's just started, I expect he'll comfortably make the Ryder Cup team.

Happy4all · 07-02-2021 10:47pm

I'd imagine he picked up a decent enough cheque today?

fullstop · 07-02-2021 11:01pm

Happy4all wrote: »

I'd imagine he picked up a decent enough cheque today?

For 29th place in an event with €3m prize fund?! About €20k I would guess.

fullstop · 07-02-2021 11:03pm

The Big Easy wrote: »

Give him a chance! Season's just started, I expect he'll comfortably make the Ryder Cup team.

Well he’s 37th in the points list, might want to get a wriggle on.

Rackstar · 07-02-2021 11:04pm

fullstop wrote: »

For 29th place in an event with €3m prize fund?! About €20k I would guess.

Prize fund didn’t draw the field. The appearance money did. He would have got north of 1 million for turning up.

fullstop · 07-02-2021 11:15pm

Rackstar wrote: »

Prize fund didn’t draw the field. The appearance money did. He would have got north of 1 million for turning up.

Going by Peter Lawrie’s comments on OTB, no. Only the top guys were getting €1m+, probably a couple of hundred thousand. But obviously that’s all unofficial money and doesn’t count towards rankings.

hurleronditch · 08-02-2021 6:08am

fullstop wrote: »

Well he’s 37th in the points list, might want to get a wriggle on.

There’s 7 months, 4 majors, sawgrass, a bunch of WGCs all between now and selection date. Whilst I agree he could be in better form it’s not exactly panic stations just yet. A win or a handful of top 10s and top 5s and he would be right back in the mix.

The publicity around how good pals he is with Harrington goes against him if you ask me, means he will have to absolutely earn his slot beyond reproach. If he doesnt qualify automatically he will need to be in the first 5 or 6 to not make it, anything outside that and Harrington won’t fancy the scrutiny of picking him

Bill Ponderosa · 08-02-2021 7:24am

Happy4all wrote: »

I'd imagine he picked up a decent enough cheque today?

Not prize money but I'd imagine he got a nice wad of Oil money.

GreeBo · 08-02-2021 9:27am

hurleronditch wrote: »

There’s 7 months, 4 majors, sawgrass, a bunch of WGCs all between now and selection date. Whilst I agree he could be in better form it’s not exactly panic stations just yet. A win or a handful of top 10s and top 5s and he would be right back in the mix.

I guess the point/worry is that he hasnt shown anything that would lead you to believe top 10s or top 5s are on the horizon, he needs to move on from scraping top 30s first.

GreeBo · 08-02-2021 9:30am

fullstop wrote: »

Don’t know what ‘people’ expected, but personally would have expected it to give him a boost and put a bit of a run together. he should have been threatening Ryder Cup this year.

Seems more and more likely that the big wins are major (har har) outliers in his career and he could be one of those guys who hangs around for years and nips in and out of the winners circle very occasionally, most guys dont even get that much so its not like it should be a shock or seen as a failure imo.

techdiver · 08-02-2021 10:42am

GreeBo wrote: »

Seems more and more likely that the big wins are major (har har) outliers in his career and he could be one of those guys who hangs around for years and nips in and out of the winners circle very occasionally, most guys dont even get that much so its not like it should be a shock or seen as a failure imo.

He even admits it himself that he's never going to be a consistent top 10 player (tournament results) and that he will always be "streaky" (his own words). He says he will take being streaky and winning big tournaments now and again rather then being in or a round all the time without winning.

The problem from a Ryder Cup point of view is that type of form, at least more often than not, does not help with getting a place on the team. I really hope he does make it, but I can't see it happening.

08-02-2021 10:48am

He is 19th on the World Points List for the Ryder Cup at the moment.

First 4 spots go to the European Points List and then 5 to the World Points list. The Top 4 are also the current Top 4 on the World Points list and seem like lock ins for the team, so in essence the World Points list places will go down to number 9 on that list qualifying automatically.

He is 30 points out of the places at the moment but with points value at 1.5 now and double from the 12th May it is nothing a win or a good run of results wouldn't sort out.

GreeBo · 08-02-2021 1:24pm

techdiver wrote: »

The problem from a Ryder Cup point of view is that type of form, at least more often than not, does not help with getting a place on the team. I really hope he does make it, but I can't see it happening.

The other side of that is, do you really want a streaky player on your RyderCup team?
I think I'd much prefer the consistent top 10 guy.

Golfgorfield · 11-02-2021 2:38pm

GreeBo wrote: »

The other side of that is, do you really want a streaky player on your RyderCup team?
I think I'd much prefer the consistent top 10 guy.

Valid point, but the "consistent Top 10" guy may not win a match at that level.
The streaky guy might win 2 out of 4.... Shane would make a very good 4somes partner, his driving and short game would free up a partner to be really aggressive with irons, and making birdies in 4somes will won matches.

Id love to see him make the team, but his hot/cold form type career will probably keep him out of the auto spots, and i dont think Padraig could pick him unless hes literally just missed the auto spots.

Seve OB · 13-02-2021 12:31am

Golfgorfield wrote: »

The streaky guy might win 2 out of 4....

Only if he is streaking when the Ryder cup is on!

gypsy79 · 13-02-2021 12:35am

Personally cant see a redeeming feature why shane should make team

his game is a mess full stop

13-02-2021 1:45am

gypsy79 wrote: »

Personally cant see a redeeming feature why shane should make team

his game is a mess full stop

I'd take that game every day and twice on Sunday.

gypsy79 · 13-02-2021 10:49am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd take that game every day and twice on Sunday.

You aren’t professional golfer

You are kidding self if you think he is in or near Europe’s top 12 golfers at this minute

Bill Ponderosa · 13-02-2021 5:00pm

Paddy will surely give him the pick.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if he starts to find some form soon, he must be sobering up from the open around now. He's well capable of playing in a Ryder cup.

slave1 · 13-02-2021 5:17pm

A pick needs to be a veteran who can buffer less experienced team or hot in form player. Shane is not the first and time will tell whether he can qualify but I can't see him being picked unless he's on fire last few weeks running into the comp.
His greatest weakness is his putting and more than anything else you need a putter at the RC...

abff · 13-02-2021 6:53pm

What a surprise. A yellow for Lamela.

abff · 13-02-2021 6:54pm

And it’s 3-0.

fullstop · 13-02-2021 7:09pm

abff wrote: »

And it’s 3-0.

Lowry must be gutted!

13-02-2021 7:12pm

In present form he doesn't deserve to be there. I dont think Harrington will pick him unless he really deserves it either. My money would be on him not being in the team.

kowloonkev · 13-02-2021 7:19pm

he needs to win a major or wgc to even be in contention given he is so inconsistent most of the time.

i know it's important to Shane but i would still prefer him to win any individual event ahead of playing ryder cup given such a hypothetical choice.

hurleronditch · 13-02-2021 8:40pm

gypsy79 wrote: »

You aren’t professional golfer

You are kidding self if you think he is in or near Europe’s top 12 golfers at this minute

He is literally the 11th ranked European player in the world.

His form isn’t in the top 12 in Europe, no one could argue that, it’s not even close, but his overall quality since the last Ryder cup is within the realms of the team. His streaky nature means he could genuinely do nothing for another 6 weeks, have a couple of top 20s, win a regular US tour event and top 10 at a couple of majors and make the team with room to spare. There’s a fair chance he won’t but he has loads of capability and track record in doing exactly that.

gypsy79 · 14-02-2021 12:02pm

hurleronditch wrote: »

He is literally the 11th ranked European player in the world.

His form isn’t in the top 12 in Europe, no one could argue that, it’s not even close, but his overall quality since the last Ryder cup is within the realms of the team. His streaky nature means he could genuinely do nothing for another 6 weeks, have a couple of top 20s, win a regular US tour event and top 10 at a couple of majors and make the team with room to spare. There’s a fair chance he won’t but he has loads of capability and track record in doing exactly that.

The lockdown is actually helping him stay up in the top 50. His 5 best ranking scores were in 2019

hurleronditch · 14-02-2021 12:41pm

gypsy79 wrote: »

The lockdown is actually helping him stay up in the top 50. His 5 best ranking scores were in 2019

Not particularly, the PGA tour only shut down for 3 months, and they got pretty much all big events in bar the open. His last run of very good form was in 2019 which included a major and a Rolex series win, both of which came without much buildup form.

I’m not suggesting he’s playing like he’s one of the best few golfers in Europe at this moment, he’s clearly not. But he has the pedigree and capability to go on a hot streak with limited notice and nail a place on the team in no time. He has guaranteed entry to all 4 majors, the players and the WGCs.

I do think if he’s outside the top 9 he’ll only get one of PH’s picks if he’s somewhere between 10-14 with a bit of form in the bag over the summer. If he continues to trundle along as he is without that hot streak I hope and expect to arrive, no way will Paddy pick him. If Europe lost and PH brought an out of form Lowry on a mates pick it Harrington would be hung for it, no matter how well or badly Lowry actually played in the matches.

ClutchIt · 22-02-2021 4:23pm

hurleronditch wrote: »

Not particularly, the PGA tour only shut down for 3 months, and they got pretty much all big events in bar the open. His last run of very good form was in 2019 which included a major and a Rolex series win, both of which came without much buildup form.

I’m not suggesting he’s playing like he’s one of the best few golfers in Europe at this moment, he’s clearly not. But he has the pedigree and capability to go on a hot streak with limited notice and nail a place on the team in no time. He has guaranteed entry to all 4 majors, the players and the WGCs.

I do think if he’s outside the top 9 he’ll only get one of PH’s picks if he’s somewhere between 10-14 with a bit of form in the bag over the summer. If he continues to trundle along as he is without that hot streak I hope and expect to arrive, no way will Paddy pick him. If Europe lost and PH brought an out of form Lowry on a mates pick it Harrington would be hung for it, no matter how well or badly Lowry actually played in the matches.

I agree with all this except the last sentence. I mean if Lowry played well and won his points, then you would credit Paddy, not blame him.

The Big Easy · 25-02-2021 9:24pm

Looking like a solid start for Shane in the WGC, playing well but not making a lot, similar enough story for him there!

A top ten or better here would take a lot of pressure off. Great chance for points with the limited field and a lot out of it after day 1.

Come on Shane, another WGC would be nice

TheRiverman · 25-02-2021 10:45pm

Too many even par or worse first rounds, always ending up 6 - 9 shots behind the leader. Unfortunately didn't change today.

TheRiverman · 27-02-2021 11:42pm

The Big Easy wrote: »

Looking like a solid start for Shane in the WGC, playing well but not making a lot, similar enough story for him there!

A top ten or better here would take a lot of pressure off. Great chance for points with the limited field and a lot out of it after day 1.

Come on Shane, another WGC would be nice

Very unlikely now, + 4 today. Shane is in a rut.

fullstop · 04-03-2021 10:09pm

Very poor again today, another MC looming.

TheRiverman · 04-03-2021 10:58pm

Once again a first round that sees him nine shots behind the leaders. Unfortunately Shane appears to be heading back to where he was in 2018 when he was contemplating giving up Golf. I know winning the Open may have changed that, but he needs to do something drastic with his game to end this awful phase he is going through.

roverjoyce · 04-03-2021 11:21pm

TheRiverman wrote: »

Once again a first round that sees him nine shots behind the leaders. Unfortunately Shane appears to be heading back to where he was in 2018 when he was contemplating giving up Golf. I know winning the Open may have changed that, but he needs to do something drastic with his game to end this awful phase he is going through.

Really just need to putt better

-3 strokes gained on putting tells the whole story

ionadnapokot · 05-03-2021 8:41am

He's hitting it brilliantly off the tee. T1 with accuracy. T17 Distance. 3rd SG OTT. GIR T3 (14/18)
Has he changed putter?
It's awful stuff. 119th SG Putting

https://www.pgatour.com/players/player.33204.shane-lowry.html/scorecards/r009/2021

TheRiverman · 05-03-2021 5:57pm

Unfortunately another missed cut.

Mushy · 11-03-2021 8:47pm

The craziness of golf, Shane having a great day after coming in with no form

The Big Easy · 11-03-2021 8:54pm

Hopefully I won't jinx him this week! Could go a long way to securing the Ryder Cup this week with a good performance.

Let's face it, the guy is good enough to win this week and another major is certainly within his capabilities.

He's won an Open in a canter and a WGC, yet some still go on like he's some kind of hacker.

FixdePitchmark · 11-03-2021 8:56pm

The Big Easy wrote: »

Hopefully I won't jinx him this week! Could go a long way to securing the Ryder Cup this week with a good performance.

Let's face it, the guy is good enough to win this week and another major is certainly within his capabilities.

He's won an Open in a canter and a WGC, yet some still go on like he's some kind of hacker.

Early days - but it does sum up how he is an unusual character. Crap - or can win a major. It is kind of strange. You don't see golfers like that too often.

LuckyGent88 · 11-03-2021 8:57pm

Well this is a nice surprise. Hopefully stays the course this week so we have great interest come Sunday night

mooz · 11-03-2021 8:59pm

Going very well, swing looks good

The Big Easy · 11-03-2021 9:01pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Early days - but it does sum up how he is an unusual character. Crap - or can win a major. It is kind of strange. You don't see golfers like that too often.

Play well and win big, that's the way to do it!

Give me that over a million Kuchars

Cabrera was another man that could stink up the place and then win a Masters or a US Open out of nowhere.

11-03-2021 9:39pm

His ball striking has been very good recently apparently. That is key around this place. Nice to see a few putts dropping. Keep it up Shane.

11-03-2021 11:03pm

A birdie on 17 is a huge confidence boost. He's some man with his wedges.

TheRiverman · 12-03-2021 3:48pm

Not as promising today, 2 over after 9, back to - 2 now.

12-03-2021 4:08pm

TheRiverman wrote: »

Not as promising today, 2 over after 9, back to - 2 now.

You weren't around yesterday to post anything positive I see.

paulie21 · 12-03-2021 6:01pm

74. Every birdie seemed to be followed up with a bogey. Anyway a cut made hopefully a good weekend can lead to a top 10 finish

The Big Easy · 14-03-2021 6:04pm

Shane has started well today -2 through 7, a top ten is well within reach if he can find a couple more in the way home.

Either way hopefully this a sign of better things to come this season and that rumours of his demise have been greatly exaggerated as usual.

Still not holding a whole pile, but he's hit every green so far.

fullstop · 14-03-2021 6:13pm

The Big Easy wrote: »

Either way hopefully this a sign of better things to come this season and that rumours of his demise have been greatly exaggerated as usual.

They really haven’t. How many top 10 has he since he won The Open?

Shane Lowry - 2019 Champion Golfer of The Year (note first post please for posting guidance)

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