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Remington. 222

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  • 02-02-2021 5:31pm
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    cookimonster
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    A few quick questions-

    Any body here use or know of someone using a .222?

    If so does someone know of a reliable source of ammo?

    Thanks.


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    Munsterlad102
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    cookimonster wrote: »
    A few quick questions-

    Any body here use or know of someone using a .222?

    If so does someone know of a reliable source of ammo?

    Thanks.

    I saw some on an Irish website, but I can’t remember which one so there definitely is some out there. But can I ask why not get a .223 or chamber the rifle? I always thought .222 was for people in countries where military calibres wasn’t allowed, like France.


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    Munsterlad102
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    Here’s a few links, maybe they’re worth further investigation:
    https://mcbrides.ie/collections/centerfire/products/222-rem-ps-40gr-nbt
    https://www.mccullaghsports.ie/ammunition/#gallery/dbef03402140921c3cf9a9167185dd20/48
    https://www.ballistech.ie/product-category/ammunition/rifle-ammunition/page/2/


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    civdef
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    Not that long ago here (20 years) even getting a licence for a 222 was a very tall order, hornet & swift yes, 22/250 maybe (probably need a deer licence), 222 probably not and 223 feck off.

    It's easy to forget how far things came.


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    Feisar
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    McBrides and Ballistech have Federal 40 grainers. Irishshootingsports have 50grain Sako and McCullough Shooting Sports have 50 grain Sellier and Bellot.
    That’s from a quick google, I suppose give them a shout and see if they have good availability.

    I know it was the accuracy king for a long time but in a general rifle with factory ammo I doubt one would notice it being better than the .223. Indeed with the better availability of .223 ammo there is a better chance of finding something it likes.
    Any particular reason in the interest?

    Edit - Sorry Munster, I didn’t see yer links.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    cookimonster
    Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭cookimonster


    Thanks for the links guys, much appreciate you going to the bother of searching the net.
    I was hoping that someone here actually buys / uses the calibre and their experience with a reliable source.

    What ye are saying or thinking is correct and the brain says buy a 223, but then again, and no disrespect to others, they are 10 a penny, so I would like something different.

    I'm not target shooting with it and my yearly round count realistically would be a 100 or less. Yes there is more of a choice with the 223 and there is cheap ammo to be got but middle of the road .223 ammo still works out around the same price as the 222.

    The 222 lost out to the .223 on a technicality in the eyes of the US military, if the .223 had not become a main stream military calibre it most likely would not have gained such popularity as the 222 had already established itself as excellent varmint and benchrest target round over the space of 25 years. That's not taking away from the 223, it is a superb round, but there is a history of military rounds gaining favour with the public due there history. Rounds like the .30-40 Krag, 7×57mm Mauser, 6.5×55mm Swedish, 30-06, and the 308. No doubt if they relaunch a 6mm or 6.5mm service round then it to will find popularity. The 222 was eventually over whelmed with the flooding of the market with surplus service ammo.

    The .222 is still in use in the UK, although the .223 is miles ahead in the popularity stakes. As quiet rightly pointed out in previous posts the .222 rem is still used in many countries in European countries were .223/5.56is not allowed.

    Any how, I just wanted something different not only in my gun cabinet but in the crowd.


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    Feisar
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    I hear you on the something different, my cabinet of .22LR, .223 and .308 wouldn't excite anyone.

    I looked at the numbers on .222 vs .223:

    .222 is down 200 fps but the .223 needs circa 30% more powder to achieve this, 22 vs 29 grains. In real terms it drops 2 inches and drifts half an inch more at 300. It would appear the .222 is in a real sweet spot before the laws of diminishing returns kick in.

    The above are round numbers and not researched to the nth degree but the point stands.

    First they came for the socialists...



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