February Running Challenge

shotgunmcos · 01-02-2021 6:55pm

Just to keep a track of new participants before I create the table again (I'll do that for whoever comes in first with a result so they can sit at 20 points for a while

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AMK
jackc101
TFBubendorfer

Ye need to commit to a time limit lads :cool:

TFBubendorfer · 01-02-2021 7:46pm

I did a 42 min 10k TT on a treadmill last month. https://www.strava.com/activities/4590817736

crisco10 · 01-02-2021 7:58pm

BeginnerRunner wrote: »

So who else is thinking they'll just wait until the last few days of Feb to see how everyone else did and then completely send it?

I don't think I'd be up for this run twice.

Was actually thinking along the same lines but that I would do an effort early in month and see how it fares then have another go at end of month if needs be. I.e have max recovery time. This won’t be like January where you could multiple attempts in a week.

Edit: also, would the buggy actually be against the rules? Fine if so, just not sure if you were joking or not!

Annie get your Run · 01-02-2021 8:28pm

I think ill try a few partial route variations every weekend and then try to put together the final route. Some of the steepest hills are far apart so will require a decision as to which to use, or else pick up the pace between them which I doubt I could get away with.

I won't get the highest result but plan to have a lot of fun along the way

py · 01-02-2021 8:29pm

Lambay island wrote: »

Ha, yes its almost feels like cheating if I do this with my location.

Stocking Lane * 2-3 reps and then straight up to Cruagh?

Swashbuckler · 01-02-2021 9:19pm

Boys oh boys I was not expecting that!

No idea where to even start with that one.... Yikes.

MY BAD · 01-02-2021 10:06pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Boys oh boys I was not expecting that!

No idea where to even start with that one.... Yikes.

Out to Cratloe woods with ya

Swashbuckler · 01-02-2021 10:07pm

MY BAD wrote: »

Out to Cratloe woods with ya

Am I allowed into Co. Clare?

Lambay island · 01-02-2021 10:19pm

py wrote: »

Stocking Lane * 2-3 reps and then straight up to Cruagh?

I could get as far as entrance to Cruagh but then outside range. I can get up to Fairy Castle via Kilmashogue or Ticknock though.

py · 01-02-2021 11:35pm

Lambay island wrote: »

I could get as far as entrance to Cruagh but then outside range. I can get up to Fairy Castle via Kilmashogue or Ticknock though.

Some good options there. I've been trying to minimise repeats to avoid wasting time not ascending. Still tinkering with routes that fall within 5Km. Stocking Lane > Mount Venus > Masseys > Viewpoint gets about 350-360m ascent.Repeats on Kilmashogue lane is another option as there's some serious elevation on it.

crisco10 · 02-02-2021 12:10am

py wrote: »

Some good options there. I've been trying to minimise repeats to avoid wasting time not ascending. Still tinkering with routes that fall within 5Km. Stocking Lane > Mount Venus > Masseys > Viewpoint gets about 350-360m ascent.Repeats on Kilmashogue lane is another option as there's some serious elevation on it.

The hard bit for me is starting point. I also agree always ascending is better but which is better a very minor gradient at start of run or doing a few repeats on steep part of ticknock for example at end of run.

Such a great planning challenge. And none of it will mean anything when legs and or lungs go kaput

shotgunmcos · 02-02-2021 10:05am

February Table

:cool:

* denotes bonus point to be added if challenge completed
?? need a time limit (10k or double 5k rounded to nearest minute)

Pos|Runner|Jan Pts|Feb Elv|Feb Pts|Time Limit|Total
1|Omeceron*|20|||45|20
1|BeginnerRunner*|20|||50|20
3|fletch*|19|||40|19
4|crisco10*|18|||37|18
4|Swashbuckler*|18|||37|18
4|Murph_D*|18|||42|18
4|healy1835*|18|||34|18
4|eyrie*|18|||50|18
9|Unknown Unthought|17|||??|17
10|shotgunmcos*|16|||40|16
11|jamule*|15|||36|15
12|Lambay Island*|14|||36|14
13|Dudda|13|||??|13
14|mister paul*|12|||42|12
15|Comic Book Guy*|11|||39|11
16|Kander*|10|||40|10
17|Wubble Wubble*|10|||45|10
18|Annie get your Run*|9|||58|9
19|skyblue46*|8|||54|8
20|En Passant*|7|||48|7
21|omicron*|6|||34|6
22|ReeReeG*|5|||45|5
23|dna_leri*|4|||35|4
24|Huzzah*|3|||58|3
25|Dubh Geannain*|2|||37|2
26|Zico10*|1|||35|1
27|Laineyfrecks*|1|||44|1
28|Pheredykes*|1|||58|1
29|Kurt_Godel*|1|||44|1
30|eposhea*||||47|
31|OOnegative*||||40|
32|edinrunna*||||37|
33|TFBubendorfer||||42|
34|AMK||||??|
35|jackc101||||49|
36|py||||??|

Comic Book Guy · 02-02-2021 12:41pm

Great idea M although I don't expect to be thanking you whenever I do this!
Already experiencing phantom dry retching at the thoughts of 39 mins of this.....

BeginnerRunner · 02-02-2021 1:03pm

When I originally submitted my time I was guessing off 5/10k paces. I've done a 3k TT recently that projects a do-able squeeze time of 24ish mins for 5k. I'm 100% confident I'd get around in 25 mins which would put me at 50, not the 55 I originally submitted.

Do you want to change it or leave it as is? Kinda feel like I'm taking the p!ss with an extra 5 minutes and a 200m high hill outside gaff

EDIT: should also clarify this has absolutely nothing whatsoever, at all, with me wanting it to be over 5 minutes sooner.... nope... not that

healy1835 · 02-02-2021 1:25pm

I'm presuming you'll be applying some kind of 'County Flatness' algorithm to the results here M?

Only seems fair...

Lambay island · 02-02-2021 1:41pm

healy1835 wrote: »

I'm presuming you'll be applying some kind of 'County Flatness' algorithm to the results here M? Only seems fair...

In that case Northside Dublin is flatter than Southside. More calls to split the Dubs now

dna_leri · 02-02-2021 1:52pm

https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919447-Elevation-for-Your-Activity

How Elevation is calculated
It is important to remember that elevation data from all sources (barometric altimeters, GPS signals, and databases) is subject to error and that the elevation gain for an activity is an estimate. We are always working on improving our elevation data sets and algorithms.

there are many uncontrollable variables involved in calculating elevation gain. These variables can lead to exaggerated elevation totals, particularly if the activity takes place in an international, mountainous or coastal region.

Should be fun

BTW - 1 ft = 0.3048 m - are we metric or imperial?

OOnegative · 02-02-2021 2:00pm

Done a recce this morning, but the difference in elevation gain on Strava and Garmin is miles apart:

Strava - Elevation gain - 428ft
Garmin - Elevation gain- 218ft

shotgunmcos · 02-02-2021 2:13pm

BeginnerRunner wrote: »

Do you want to change it or leave it as is? Kinda feel like I'm taking the p!ss with an extra 5 minutes and a 200m high hill outside gaff

EDIT: should also clarify this has absolutely nothing whatsoever, at all, with me wanting it to be over 5 minutes sooner.... nope... not that

Happy to revise estimates down. I will NOT add time.

healy1835 wrote: »

I'm presuming you'll be applying some kind of 'County Flatness' algorithm to the results here M? Only seems fair...

That was sort of the reason for the poll. Current 60%/40% in favour of allowing a continuous uphill climb.. if you happen to have one close by.

Warning!! I can apply a 5k radius to anyone's starting point and/or your usual starting point (which presumably is home). Rule#2 is as rigid as well, a rigid thing

dna_leri wrote: »

https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919447-Elevation-for-Your-Activity

Should be fun

BTW - 1 ft = 0.3048 m - are we metric or imperial?

Dear Jesus metric please for this one :eek: I will not be held accountable for shabby imperial conversions!

OOnegative wrote: »

Done a recce this morning, but the difference in elevation gain on Strava and Garmin is miles apart:

Strava - Elevation gain - 428ft
Garmin - Elevation gain- 218ft

Edit: Your total run for 1hr13 showed 130m elevation for me. Assuming most of your recce of that was within 40 mins, thats what I would have taken from Strava. I did zoom in and can make out you crossed 3-4 contour lines so that at least 40m of elevation for just those 2 lumps

Assuming the rest was failry flat, it would seem Garmin was accurate.

Ideally post a pic of your garmin for this one but I'll take Strava if no other validation. You take the chances when you run up a mountain or between buildings.

jamule · 02-02-2021 3:16pm

I had to go into the office in Sandyford so I done an attempt at lunch (it may become the 'one' if i dont have a good reason to go into the office for the rest of the month)

Was under pressure for time so could only go up for 34mins. 1st 5mins was flat and had another 80mts of uphill left to climb, I'm guessing 450m is possible.

Not much difference between the watch and Strava-

Strava- 365m
Garmin-362m

I tried a hill at home yesterday. 350m = +20m , up and down in 3 mins.= 240m.
There is not much chance of reps getting anywhere near going straight up.

TFBubendorfer · 02-02-2021 3:23pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Done a recce this morning, but the difference in elevation gain on Strava and Garmin is miles apart:

Strava - Elevation gain - 428ft
Garmin - Elevation gain- 218ft

1) if there's such a big difference, the lower number is almost certain to be the more accurate one.
2) In the "Overview" page in Strava on the web version (not the app), click on "Elevation (?)" (above "Elapsed Time"). It's is a link that opens a box with a "Correct Elevation" button. Try that.

Annie get your Run · 02-02-2021 3:50pm

I can only see Strava elevation in Feet, for me and everyone else. Anyone know how to change that? Garmin showing me metres.

shotgunmcos · 02-02-2021 4:39pm

jamule wrote: »

I had to go into the office in Sandyford so I done an attempt at lunch (it may become the 'one' if i dont have a good reason to go into the office for the rest of the month)

Was under pressure for time so could only go up for 34mins. 1st 5mins was flat and had another 80mts of uphill left to climb, I'm guessing 450m is possible.

Not much difference between the watch and Strava-

Strava- 365m
Garmin-362m

I tried a hill at home yesterday. 350m = +20m , up and down in 3 mins.= 240m.
There is not much chance of reps getting anywhere near going straight up.

Cool, and you were close enough to your 36min limit anyway. If you have a link I can put you up as the lead on the table

shotgunmcos · 02-02-2021 4:41pm

Annie get your Run wrote: »

I can only see Strava elevation in Feet, for me and everyone else. Anyone know how to change that? Garmin showing me metres.

On Strava/settings/display preferences. If you choose kilometres and kilograms you will see everything metric.

jamule · 02-02-2021 4:46pm

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Cool, and you were close enough to your 36min limit anyway. If you have a link I can put you up as the lead on the table

If you put me on the table can I do it again?

Annie get your Run · 02-02-2021 4:50pm

shotgunmcos wrote: »

On Strava/settings/display preferences. If you choose kilometres and kilograms you will see everything metric.

Feic that! Now everything is in gobbledegook :pac:. Good to know I can switch and switch back. Thanks.

shotgunmcos · 02-02-2021 4:53pm

jamule wrote: »

If you put me on the table can I do it again?

Yup

Rule#4

ReeReeG · 02-02-2021 5:00pm

Annie get your Run wrote:

Feic that! Now everything is in gobbledegook . Good to know I can switch and switch back. Thanks.

Well I think the person viewing sees it in what way their own setting is so you wouldn't need to change if you just link it... Unless you're just curious of course!

jamule · 02-02-2021 5:01pm

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Yup Rule#4

https://www.strava.com/activities/4721847086

Some craic coming down on my arse in a river!

shotgunmcos · 02-02-2021 5:16pm

jamule wrote: »

https://www.strava.com/activities/4721847086

Some craic coming down on my arse in a river!

Is the activity private? I can't see it. Maybe you need to add me or I add you?

February Running Challenge

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