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Terminator Werewolf - Game thread

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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭Gertrude WW


    I'd like to see Phil flip. Babs is taking care of that.

    Phils bogus reasoning on frank could have been wolf on wolf, so i wouldn't really mind seeing Frank flip also.

    and as my last flip, tinfoil hat firmly on head, Derry. He questioned me sticking up for Frank, when i wasn't, as i said earlier on thread. I was focusing on phils bogus reasoning, not defending frank. I think that may be trying to make an association between me and frank. I don't care for frank at all.

    so, bullet ffa

    Phil, by a country mile.

    Frank in second place,

    and Derry a distant third, if tinfoil is being applied.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Barbara, do you think a wolf would put a vote on you tonight seeing as you have a bullet and can prove your villager status should shout kill a wolf? Would wolves risk the heat based on wolves already voting Nigel?

    I’m just trying to see which of the smaller voting piles need looking at first. Plus I’m crap at waganomics.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭Orla WW


    Fiona WW wrote: »
    Barbara, do you think a wolf would put a vote on you tonight seeing as you have a bullet and can prove your villager status should shout kill a wolf? Would wolves risk the heat based on wolves already voting Nigel?

    I’m just trying to see which of the smaller voting piles need looking at first. Plus I’m crap at waganomics.

    What is wagonomics?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Orla WW wrote: »
    What is wagonomics?

    Looking at voting patterns for signs of wolf behaviour..tends to be more useful as the game moves on, especially when a wolf has been revealed. It is helpful but always take with a pinch of salt because it can be used by a skilled player to manipulate an agenda as wolf behaviour is not set in stone.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Fiona WW wrote: »
    Barbara, do you think a wolf would put a vote on you tonight seeing as you have a bullet and can prove your villager status should shout kill a wolf? Would wolves risk the heat based on wolves already voting Nigel?

    I’m just trying to see which of the smaller voting piles need looking at first. Plus I’m crap at waganomics.

    Tis quite possible they won't go near me seeing as the actions will take place at the same time so it's not as if they'll be preventing my shot.

    That being said, they won't want a village core being built so I reckon tis a safe bet that I'll be out the gap.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Sorry I meant do you think Doris or Angus are wolves as they placed votes on you this lynch. Would wolves be on your wagon?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Fiona WW wrote: »
    Sorry I meant do you think Doris or Angus are wolves as they placed votes on you this lynch. Would wolves be on your wagon?

    Doris is top of my list.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭Angus WW


    Bullet lists so far
    Eva WW wrote: »
    My leans for bullets
    Ffa bullets
    Phil
    Jake
    Frank
    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    If we are doing it my bullet list
    Phil
    Isla
    Vernon
    Steve WW wrote: »
    Bullet list for me

    Phil - gotta go
    Frank
    Isla
    Mary WW wrote: »
    My votes for bullets are
    Phil
    Jake
    Isla

    so, bullet ffa

    Phil, by a country mile.

    Frank in second place,

    and Derry a distant third, if tinfoil is being applied.

    My own:
    Phil
    Isla
    Frank

    Isla's last post of the night stays with me a bit, trying to downplay what has just happened.
    Isla WW wrote: »
    I was wrong.
    I'm sorry to Nigel.
    He read wolf to me.

    I don't get this maddest thing in WW. Mad things happen every game.

    Count
    Phil - 6
    Frank - 4
    Isla - 4
    Jake - 2
    Vernon - 1
    Derry - 1


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭Gertrude WW


    bullet FFA from only 6 so far.
    Angus WW wrote: »
    Bullet lists so far


    Count
    Phil - 6
    Frank - 4
    Isla - 4
    Jake - 2
    Vernon - 1
    Derry - 1

    Please others don't let be this the end of suggestions. I'd much prefer the input to be from 12+ for this than just 6.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    I’ll get my own list as soon as I can.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭Gertrude WW


    Now that read over it all again, I'd prefer to spare frank the bullet.
    I'm not defending him, but, I think he may be the inocent party in the mix, and derry is less innocent than I thought in my bullet ffa.

    I also had suspicion of jake before a reread, but i think that has totally cleared now on reread.

    Here is what I seen, so you don't have to go find it all yourself.
    Frank WW wrote: »
    Just to clear up there was some confusion yesterday.
    If T1000 is lynched, we will be told that he was T1000.
    So we can keep track of how many lives he has left.
    Fiona WW wrote: »
    Is it definite that we’ll be told?
    Frank WW wrote: »
    100% I asked Beakerjoe.
    Angus WW wrote: »
    Well then maybe the mod can confirm on thread?
    Derry WW wrote: »
    Where? In your wolfy backroom?
    Phil WW wrote: »
    I would really like Beaker to confirm this.


    Or is it because you is he ? :P
    Phil WW wrote: »
    I agree that it is a bit weird that he would PM the mod to ask about the mechanic of the role. It should have been done on open thread
    beakerjoe wrote: »
    I can confirm this
    Frank WW wrote: »
    By PM Derry, ask yourself if you want to double-check.
    Frank WW wrote: »
    Not weird at all. It says you can PM if you have any questions.
    Phil WW wrote: »
    I still think asking on the thread would have been better. Just weird doing by PM when we ALL needed to know. The fact that BJ confirmed means he most probably would have if you posted. It seems to me you NEEDED to know.
    Fiona WW wrote: »
    Wouldn’t the T1000 just clarify it via their backroom?
    Derry WW wrote: »
    They would - but only Frank claims it was by PM - beakerjoe just said he clarified it,
    Fiona WW wrote: »
    Fair point but why would an evil bother telling the village at all? The guessing would be enough distraction.
    Phil WW wrote: »
    If you have killed a villager, I am voting to lynch you tonight.
    Frank WW wrote: »
    Wolf lean on Derry and Phil.
    They both got angry about me revealing that T-1000 will be outed after lynch.
    Who would be angry with that info being released- wolves. It is in their interest to keep it unknown.
    Phil WW wrote: »
    You sir, talk utter tripe.

    If you think that is anger? more like bafflement as I can't see the logic on not asking such a question on thread.

    No one said keep the info unknown. Just the method you found it out.
    Frank WW wrote: »
    Method aside, a villager would just be glad to get the info. You sir were anything but glad.

    You are still a bit steamy now btw :D
    Phil WW wrote: »
    It aint gonna work Frankie boy. Wasn't riled then and not now. Let's not try and put things into my mouth. Anyone with a brain can see that I never once said I was not glad about the info. Just the way you went about it.

    Am I hitting to close to your wolfy skin? you had to find out how the mechanic on death of T-1000 worked for you or your teammates? now scurry off!
    Frank WW wrote: »
    OK lets say I am a wolf. I got the info from BJ through PM, now why the heck do I share it with everyone? What possible benefit could that be to the wolves?
    You are clutching at straws Phil and you are on my watchlist.
    Jake WW wrote: »
    Lot to catch up but some random thoughts

    Phil, Frank - I think you're tormenting each other. Frank, the way you got the info was a bit strange but you're right, a wolf wouldn't reveal it. I think Phil was right to question it. I think you should both look elsewhere

    Barbara - why, just why? To everything basically, the sh-tty poems, the deliberate annoying replies when first asked about it, the eagerness for a gun, the pretending you're going gun crazy. Why?

    Emily - honestly, I think your reaction seems fine in the face of Barbara. A little het up sure, but the right questions being asked.

    I can't help but feel Barbara is deliberately taking the attention here. The only picture I can form that fits what I see is that Nigel is a regular terminator, they planned that using Conor for one bullet buys credibility after last night and Barabara is taking the heat now as the T-1000, knowing she can take a lynch. It's a stretch, but it does join the dots for me...
    Derry WW wrote: »
    Katie said she had Emily was number 1 wolf this morning after the lynch last night, she was then munched.


    I was on mobile, and tbh, had missed the few very fluffy posts you had made - someone pointed this out afterwards, and I owned my error if you see from later posts. However, I do stand by you not contributing much to the thread so far. Who do you think you will vote for this evening?


    Not angry - I questioned where you received this information - it wasn't on thread, and don't know why you wouldn't ask beakerjoe on thread.


    Who are you leaning towards voting this evening? You went No Lynch yesterday if I remember correctly?

    My head is melted on this whole exchange.
    On the bolded bit. I have seen it said by, is it multiple people or same person over and over again?, about method of asking as weird.
    Well, its not, and the suggested method that they'd prefer is against rule 1.


    Questions by pm are standard, asking questions on thread for them never to be answered is a wolf ploy. Using that as reason for suspicion looks very wolfie.




    I'd like to review my bullet FFA to

    1) Phil
    2) Derry
    3) tinfoil on Frank


    I think Emily is village.
    Gun to head Fiona villager, but ask again tomorrow and that may change.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    Now that read over it all again, I'd prefer to spare frank the bullet.
    I'm not defending him, but, I think he may be the inocent party in the mix, and derry is less innocent than I thought in my bullet ffa.

    I also had suspicion of jake before a reread, but i think that has totally cleared now on reread.

    Here is what I seen, so you don't have to go find it all yourself.


















































    I'd like to review my bullet FFA to

    1) Phil
    2) Derry
    3) tinfoil on Frank


    I think Emily is village.
    Gun to head Fiona villager, but ask again tomorrow and that may change.

    Thanks for this

    I'd have a strong village lean on Frank and Phil after that exchange.

    Frank if wolf wouldn't have revealed on thread. Phil was right to question.

    Derry questioned to but I didn't read village nor wolf off him.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    Angus WW wrote: »
    Bullet lists so far











    My own:
    Phil
    Isla
    Frank

    Isla's last post of the night stays with me a bit, trying to downplay what has just happened.



    Count
    Phil - 6
    Frank - 4
    Isla - 4
    Jake - 2
    Vernon - 1
    Derry - 1

    Not downloading. Every game, wolves do mad things and the village is shocked. I'm just doing us to pause and not dismiss things.

    What exactly is this bullet list? Why we just randomly killing off villagers? Do the bullets expire? Why are we not holding onto them until we're more sure. This feels like shooting into a barrel


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Morning.

    Bullet nominations are Vernon, Phil, Isla.

    I’d rather clear Nigel’s wagon tbh.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    Fiona WW wrote: »
    Barbara, do you think a wolf would put a vote on you tonight seeing as you have a bullet and can prove your villager status should shout kill a wolf? Would wolves risk the heat based on wolves already voting Nigel?

    I’m just trying to see which of the smaller voting piles need looking at first. Plus I’m crap at waganomics.
    Here is a prime example,. killing a wolf does not prove you're a villager.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭Phil WW


    Tegan WW wrote: »
    Shoot phil

    and when he turns wolf

    shoot vernon for LITERALLY the worst case on a villager ever
    Eva WW wrote: »
    Shooting Phil is my best suggestion for tonight. If hes a wolf its a good look for the three who were on him
    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    i'd be inclined to shoot phil.
    Steve WW wrote: »
    If Phil is a wolf then defo two imo
    Angus WW wrote: »
    Steve and Eva

    Ye went with Emily, do you think she is deserving to be on the list for a bullet also?

    I'd agree with Phil, he's a cert.


    Was going to do a post, but really can't be bothered. I am not a wolf. I had actually voted for Frank then changed to Barbara till 1 minute before the lynch close last night. SInce I am on bedrest I have been watching netflix on and off and just happened at the point Fiona I think it was said to wagon on me. I was surprised as apart from the odd comment nothing had been said.


    So I changed to Nigel and saved myself. You will see I had him bottom of my list of 4.


    Hopefully you can get some info on my death.


    Good luck!



    Oh and I skipped the last page as it was all the same shoot phil, so I am not ignoring anything, just not wasting time arguing when I am a dead MAN :D


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    The 3 bullets that Nigel gave out (Barbara, Conor & Angus says he picked up Nigel’s) have the be used or they’re lost.

    The list is so they don’t go for the same target as they’ll pick who they’re shooting. We also have a big so they’ll know who’s already targeted and won’t fire there either.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Isla WW wrote: »
    Here is a prime example,. killing a wolf does not prove you're a villager.

    That's true but killing a wolf is a better look than pushing for the death of an obvious villager.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    Looking at voting patterns for signs of wolf behaviour..tends to be more useful as the game moves on, especially when a wolf has been revealed. It is helpful but always take with a pinch of salt because it can be used by a skilled player to manipulate an agenda as wolf behaviour is not set in stone.

    We should probably go back and listen to Nigel who suggested the one on one votes were likely wolf on wolf.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Now that read over it all again, I'd prefer to spare frank the bullet.
    I'm not defending him, but, I think he may be the inocent party in the mix, and derry is less innocent than I thought in my bullet ffa.

    I also had suspicion of jake before a reread, but i think that has totally cleared now on reread.

    Here is what I seen, so you don't have to go find it all yourself.


















































    I'd like to review my bullet FFA to

    1) Phil
    2) Derry
    3) tinfoil on Frank


    I think Emily is village.
    Gun to head Fiona villager, but ask again tomorrow and that may change.

    Gertrude, you conveniently forgot to quote the posts where I pointed out that Rule 1 says you can also ask questions in your back room if you are a rolled villager.
    Which is what I was asking Frank.
    You say you aren't defending Frank, but you have spent a good bit of time in support of Frank yesterday and now again.


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    That's true but killing a wolf is a better look than pushing for the death of an obvious villager.

    Sure. So I voted for Nigel because he dropped the Lucy wagon. It was so dodge to me and still is.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Isla WW wrote: »
    Sure. So I voted for Nigel because he dropped the Lucy wagon. It was so dodge to me and still is.

    How can it still be dodge? He was revealed as a villager


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Isla WW wrote: »
    Sure. So I voted for Nigel because he dropped the Lucy wagon. It was so dodge to me and still is.

    It was Day 1, Nigel focused on Lucy's Day 0 posts and took the as strange. They were strange, everyone could see that. I didnt think they were wolfie, but he did, and he was very clear on his reasoning.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Barbara has stated her bullet is for Phil. @Barbara, why do you think Doris is a wolf?

    Angus and Conor - have you decided?

    My FFA is:
    Frank
    Isla
    Jake (this is weak, but jumping off the bandwagon is suss to me, I need to read over the posts from last night again thougj)


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Isla WW wrote: »
    We should probably go back and listen to Nigel who suggested the one on one votes were likely wolf on wolf.

    Now you want to listen to Nigel? :pac:

    Of course there were wolves in the one on one votes. They were unlikely to ALL bandwagon on Lucy that first night.


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    Fiona WW wrote: »
    I’d say one of Nigel’s voters is the T1000 so losing a life was worth taking out Nigel’s bullet. Especially when they’ll morph to someone else and we’ve got to work from the beginning again.

    Fiona not sure I understand this. Is this not the Frank, Phil, Derry mess which means what you're saying can't be correct?


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭Tegan WW


    Frank voted Nigel, with Phil.

    Thank you. Yes that was a typo. I meant nigel


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭Isla WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    Now you want to listen to Nigel? :pac:

    Of course there were wolves in the one on one votes. They were unlikely to ALL bandwagon on Lucy that first night.

    Have you looked there ? Or are you still annoyed a randomly picked you night 1


  • Forum Games Player Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Isla WW wrote: »
    Sure. So I voted for Nigel because he dropped the Lucy wagon. It was so dodge to me and still is.

    People who start wagons are more likely to be villagers than wolves. And how is it still dodgy?? Nigel was NRV


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  • Forum Games Player Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭Derry WW


    Phil WW wrote: »
    Was going to do a post, but really can't be bothered. I am not a wolf. I had actually voted for Frank then changed to Barbara till 1 minute before the lynch close last night. SInce I am on bedrest I have been watching netflix on and off and just happened at the point Fiona I think it was said to wagon on me. I was surprised as apart from the odd comment nothing had been said.


    So I changed to Nigel and saved myself. You will see I had him bottom of my list of 4.


    Hopefully you can get some info on my death.


    Good luck!



    Oh and I skipped the last page as it was all the same shoot phil, so I am not ignoring anything, just not wasting time arguing when I am a dead MAN :D

    Lucy - NRV - argument was OK then lynch me you'll see I'm not a wolf
    Nigel - NRV - you'll see I'm not a wolf if you lynch me

    Re: Phil, wolf.or no, I've no idea, I can't make up mind. I dont know why Phil over the others who voted for Nigel. But the argument shoot me you'll see you were wrong does not help anything. It's the weakest argument of all.

    Phil, it looks like you are being shot anyway, so from everything that's happened, what direction would you be looking in? Who are you suspicious of? Why did you want the people with the bullets to be lynched?


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