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Shotgun for grey crows

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  • 26-01-2021 9:36pm
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    Cerveza
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    A few farmers I do some fixing on have the occasional problem with grey crows attacking young lambs. Any particular shotgun to get for this kind of shooting as there is loads of used ones around.


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    The pigeon man
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    Do you have any experience with firearms?

    A double barrel or semi automatic shotgun will be grand for the task. Best get a 12 bore for the availability of ammo.

    A trap may also be useful to keep their numbers down

    Grey crows are very wary and will be gone at the first shot. A rifle may also be the job if you can't get within shotgun range


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    Uinseann_16
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    Get something half decent and learn how to use it ,Baikal is great for no nonsense cheap shotguns that are durable


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    Cerveza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    I have plenty rifle shooting experience. I have used a few shotguns that my friends own. They are double barrel ones.


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    JP22
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    If you have no personal preference, there are plenty of good second hand 12g side by side (SS) shotguns available. Most will come with fixed chokes in either quarter and half or three quarter and full choke.

    Three quarter and full will give you a bit more distance.


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    Cerveza
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    I saw myself last year they were brazen enough flying 30-40 metres at most away. What choke say for that distance?


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    meathstevie
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    Cerveza wrote: »
    I saw myself last year they were brazen enough flying 30-40 metres at most away. What choke say for that distance?

    Cartridge choice will be at least as important as choke for grey crows at that distance. They’re a though creature, don’t expect to knock them cleanly at that distance with much less than a 32gr 5 or 4.


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    JP22
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    This is a highly debated topic and has numerous answers,

    Generally -

    For most game/rough shooting - 1/4 and 1/2 chokes are fine.

    For high birds (40/50 yds) - 3/4 and full chokes.

    Edit - plenty of info here. https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/answers/kit-for-rough-shooting-106583


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    Feisar
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    Cerveza wrote: »
    I saw myself last year they were brazen enough flying 30-40 metres at most away. What choke say for that distance?

    Rare for them to be that close outside of towns.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    Cadpat_cowboy
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    Feisar wrote: »
    Rare for them to be that close outside of towns.

    Had two in my garden last weekend at the hen house unfortunately with all the people out walking (outside of there 5km) I couldn't get a shot off


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    Feisar
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    Cadpat_cowboy wrote: »
    Had two in my garden last weekend at the hen house unfortunately with all the people out walking (outside of there 5km) I couldn't get a shot off

    But to be flying about in view, rare. (Edit - in view that close I meant)

    Another thing I was before Xmas that was a first. Normally you'd see one or two of them., was out with a friend on new ground, out through a gap and seem about 15 of them in a field about 250 yards away. 15!

    First they came for the socialists...



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    leupold90
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    Cerveza wrote: »
    I saw myself last year they were brazen enough flying 30-40 metres at most away. What choke say for that distance?


    Off topic but I'll bet you weren't carrying a gun at the time?
    When walking I've gotten within 20m of them on occasion - but when carrying a gun they feck off if you enter the field. One of the most cautious creatures about.


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    minktrapper
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    Gun. Caller. Hide. And most of all patience.


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    minktrapper
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    While on the subject of Grey Crows. What is the best method of trapping/ shooting them. Whether with rifle or shotgun.


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    Nekarsulm
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    minktrapper wrote: »
    While on the subject of Grey Crows. What is the best method of trapping/ shooting them. Whether with rifle or shotgun.

    I thought it was illegal to shoot a bird with a rifle?
    No?


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    Birdnuts
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    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    I thought it was illegal to shoot a bird with a rifle?
    No?

    No - the derogations allow it


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    Cerveza
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    Op here thanks for all the contributions. It’s always on your door step and as I was talking to one of my neighbours there last week we got taking about shooting and he has a shotgun he done use so happy to sell it.
    I’ll print off the form tomorrow at work and fill it out, will I be restricted as I am with my rifle to 100 rounds or is shotgun different?


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    meathstevie
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    Cerveza wrote: »
    Op here thanks for all the contributions. It’s always on your door step and as I was talking to one of my neighbours there last week we got taking about shooting and he has a shotgun he done use so happy to sell it.
    I’ll print off the form tomorrow at work and fill it out, will I be restricted as I am with my rifle to 100 rounds or is shotgun different?

    Ask for 250 ( or a multiple thereof ), that’s the standard quantity per slab of ten boxes. You don’t want to be up and down to the gun shop like a yo-yo when you’re shooting a few crows or pigeons.


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