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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Stuff from Shotgun 2020 - seems I got lost to some transitioning here. You know who you are, what did I say or do to you? :o A proper, more considerate and careful approach to running. New ground :o

    I ran 2,107 miles or 3,390km over 233 runs and 9mile or 14k average per run.
    Longest running streak was 44 days - January NY excitement

    It fell fast....
    Longest non running streak... 62 days :(

    Jan 25 2020 first 5k.. Parkrun in 20:02 which established max HR
    Apr 25 2020 next 5k.. Boards TT in 18:53. 3 months to improve 6%

    Next week on Jan 26 2021 I hope to hit the 20 min 5k again. A restart.
    Then see if I can beat 6% improvement in 3 months :)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Just a thought here...does chasing such a big improvement all over again (and trying to get there quicker) not risk a similar outcome? What's the hurry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Just a thought here...does chasing such a big improvement all over again (and trying to get there quicker) not risk a similar outcome? What's the hurry?

    Thank you! I like these questions :) No rush. The key difference is focus.

    Last year at the end of Jan I was at 20:02. Most of the next 3 months was base running as Covid befell us and cancelled everything. 10 miles a day day after day sometimes with progression. More miles than I'd ever done, hitting 70-80m (110-130k) weeks. Then a great idea for a Board 5k TT and I did 2 hurried sessions.

    The base got me to 18:53 with almost zero to spare (97% hr max). I'm assuming I can hit 20 mins next week again. Then a progressive 5-10k focused set of workouts to progress. 1x 5k focused and 1x 10k focused per week.

    I'll have a few goes and hopefully chip away at it. Just interesting that I'll be in a very similar spot to this time last year.

    The foot injury literally came out of the blue. No warning. No niggle. Potentially down to loads of new shoes, too tight for my wide foot.

    Happy to get any feedback from 5-10k folk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    Thank you! I like these questions :) No rush. The key difference is focus.

    Last year at the end of Jan I was at 20:02. Most of the next 3 months was base running as Covid befell us and cancelled everything. 10 miles a day day after day sometimes with progression. More miles than I'd ever done, hitting 70-80m (110-130k) weeks. Then a great idea for a Board 5k TT and I did 2 hurried sessions.

    The base got me to 18:53 with almost zero to spare (97% hr max). I'm assuming I can hit 20 mins next week again. Then a progressive 5-10k focused set of workouts to progress. 1x 5k focused and 1x 10k focused per week.

    I'll have a few goes and hopefully chip away at it. Just interesting that I'll be in a very similar spot to this time last year.

    The foot injury literally came out of the blue. No warning. No niggle. Potentially down to loads of new shoes, too tight for my wide foot.

    Happy to get any feedback from 5-10k folk?

    I also got a foot injury during 2020 and my first instinct was to "blame the shoes" - too tight, not enough cushioning. While shoes may have been a factor, increasing volume and intensity without increasing recovery was probably a bigger factor. I know of others who also increased their workload and got injured. Without recognizing the real cause, it is easy to repeat the sins of the past. I'm preaching to myself as well.

    That being said, you should have no difficulty hitting 18 min 5K.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Thank you! I like these questions :) No rush. The key difference is focus.

    Last year at the end of Jan I was at 20:02. Most of the next 3 months was base running as Covid befell us and cancelled everything. 10 miles a day day after day sometimes with progression. More miles than I'd ever done, hitting 70-80m (110-130k) weeks. Then a great idea for a Board 5k TT and I did 2 hurried sessions.

    The base got me to 18:53 with almost zero to spare (97% hr max). I'm assuming I can hit 20 mins next week again. Then a progressive 5-10k focused set of workouts to progress. 1x 5k focused and 1x 10k focused per week.

    I'll have a few goes and hopefully chip away at it. Just interesting that I'll be in a very similar spot to this time last year.

    The foot injury literally came out of the blue. No warning. No niggle. Potentially down to loads of new shoes, too tight for my wide foot.

    Happy to get any feedback from 5-10k folk?

    I had a similar story. I couldn't break 22 mins for a 5k in January. Built base for the first 3 months, ran a lot during lockdown, crammed in sessions, 5k in 19:01, mile in 5:30...on top of the world! Then PF and I have not run in anger since June.

    I blamed running streaks, too much running on concrete while in the 2 and 5k restrictions. The fact of the matter is that it was too much, too fast, too soon and too stupid!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    dna_leri wrote: »
    I also got a foot injury during 2020 and my first instinct was to "blame the shoes" - too tight, not enough cushioning. While shoes may have been a factor, increasing volume and intensity without increasing recovery was probably a bigger factor. I know of others who also increased their workload and got injured. Without recognizing the real cause, it is easy to repeat the sins of the past. I'm preaching to myself as well.

    That being said, you should have no difficulty hitting 18 min 5K.

    Thanks. Undoubtedly the culprit lies in there somewhere.
    Random hard workouts.
    No weekly progression.
    Volume over recovery.
    No Plan!

    in 2019 I executed a 4 month plan courtesy of mssrs Hansons and got a lifetime marathon PR.

    So this time I'm taking the progressive approach.
    5k workouts - workout 1 each week
    Build to 20 mins of 19min pace stuff, then execute sub 19
    18 mins is lifetime PR for me

    10k workouts - workout 2 each week
    Build to 40 mins of work at 40 mins pace, then execute sub 40
    Repeat to sub 39
    38 mins is lifetime PR for me

    EDIT: I've just started reading Matt Fitzgeralds 80/20 and I see he has a 5k chapter!

    I guess easy to blame the shoes alright. I guess with the higher volume I was going through shoes quicker. It was also my first time using the racing line of shoes like Adizero and NB 1500 (that now seems like ancient history with all this carbon plate and stack height stuff!).

    I've since taken S&C and foam rolling much more seriously. I've also taken a bit more attention to shoe fit and use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MY BAD


    I picked up a foot injury in the middle of my 3k/5k training last summer. There was a combination of factors which brought it on. Like dna_lari said creasing volume and intensity without increasing recovery was probably a bigger factor. The nail in the coffin for me was I did a really hard session a few days after taking a week off for a non running issue. I wore new shoes and the track was wet. I remember I couldn't get any purchase with those shoes during that session. So to compensate for the lack of grip I was driving my feet harder into the ground. I had no issue during the session but after it on my cool down my two feet were in bits on the soles. I ended up with a inflamed tendon on both feet with the my right foot coming out the worst. I'm only getting back in the swing of things again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Couple of quick inputs from me!

    You were previously running more mileage than you had ever done before 110km-130km. That's most likely a factor in your woes too. Even though you managed it for a period of time, overuse injury are progressive in nature and might not bite you for a while.

    Other point, building to 40mins of 10k work in your sessions is a lot! Be careful there. In terms of that kind of volume of total work in a session that would be more in line with threshold volume. Unless I'm missing some subtlety there? McMillan has some of those types of sessions which are complete overkill in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    This the new hangout for the folk with feet issues? Some good info. I find it interesting that you all blame yourselves. I do too by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,795 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    This the new hangout for the folk with feet issues? Some good info. I find it interesting that you all blame yourselves. I do too by the way.

    'Personal responsibility' and all that!

    The odd niggle aside, I think it's very unlikely that contemporary shoes (in good condition) would ever be much of a factor in a prolonged injury, unless you trip over the laces and break your leg!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 19
    Quick training interlude!
    12.38k Recovery @5:42 | HRR 56%

    I needed movement. I needed air.

    Just 500 steps by 7pm. Work life imbalance. 500 more putting the kids to bed after they burnt the last of their energy using me as a climbing frame. The couch, tea and easy reading called. 1,000 steps. Pathetic. No excuse not to get up and move during the day. Right hip niggle likely from the uphill sprint yesterday. Stupidly stiff by the time I set out.

    Easy short sorta ploddy strides around the city. Eerily quiet. Mellow tunes, reflections in a calm high tide. Number of teen groups, 5. Number of times I smelled cannabis, 3. Brand new streets explored, 2.

    12,000 steps, hip loosened. Body thanked me.

    2021
    142/2,600 miles (230/4,200 km)
    695/10,000 press ups | 295/2,000 pull ups
    29/1,000 km rowing
    19/19 days active | 17 Run | 5 Row | 9 S&C | 2 Yoga


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Now foot stuff n stuff!

    40mins work at 40mins pace. Ill build to it. Plus I'll use HRR to gauge effort, keeping it 80-89%

    24 mins last week (6x4min)
    30 mins this week (6x5min)
    36 mins after that (6x6min)
    40 mins after that (5x8min)
    40 mins again after that (4x10min)
    39:XX TT

    If I hit 39:XX I'll take a week off then build again for improvement.

    Saucony Endorphin Speeds arrived today :) Even though from reviews they fit to size, I ordered a size up. In actual fact its probably the size I should be ordering. Snug on midfoot. A thumbnail width between big toe and top of shoe. Little toe free. Big toe not squashed. Lockdown good but crucially toes have room to move. A basic mistake I made many times last year until the bursitis copped me on. Some lovely shoes that fit me like cinderellas slippers :cool: I now use sparingly, favouring roomier sizes.

    Volume. No doubt I got excited like most here about newfound mileage boundaries. 60 miles was once a mountain, then the regular, then all too soon a step back week. Felt amazing to churn out those miles :rolleyes: Hit 80+ and actually wondered if a 100 mile week was doable :rolleyes: Sure, if I built the relative base over years not weeks :rolleyes::o Over zealous. The Boards 1 mile TT in Cinderlla Adizero finished me off no doubt.

    Let's just hope all of us in the foot locker have a better go this year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 20
    18.13k inc 2x (7x400m off 60s) | HRR 72-88% 433w

    Enjoyed this. Adizero 4 great, I can only imagine what the Adios Pro are like! I was never under pressure for this. I've hit 91% HRR on the last 2 workouts so this was marginally more comfortable. It was 2 more reps or 3 mins more work but 3 mins easy in the middle of the workout. 12 of 21 mins work banked in the threshold zone so I was recovering well between reps. Better control overall on the effort. It was also my longest run of the year, by chance.

    I still tend to go off too fast but also practiced going off conservatively and catching the target pace too. Hip felt better through this so that was good. It still needs stretch and sitting back to hours of meeting after a workout is not great. 5k TT next week and it will set a benchmark for the next suite of workouts.

    2x (7x400m off 60s) 3 mins Z2
    Target 3:50 range 3:45-3:55
    rep dist|rep time|avg pace|in range
    400m|1:31|3:49|Yes
    400m|1:30|3:46|Yes
    400m|1:32|3:50|Yes
    400m|1:30|3:47|Yes
    400m|1:31|3:50|Yes
    400m|1:28|3:42|No
    400m|1:30|3:45|Yes


    Set 2
    rep dist|rep time|avg pace|in range
    400m|1:30|3:46|Yes
    400m|1:30|3:47|Yes
    400m|1:32|3:51|Yes
    400m|1:30|3:46|Yes
    400m|1:30|3:45|Yes
    400m|1:29|3:43|No
    400m|1:31|3:50|Yes


    2021
    154/2,600 miles (248/4,200 km)
    695/10,000 press ups | 295/2,000 pull ups
    29/1,000 km rowing
    20/20 days active | 18 Run | 5 Row | 9 S&C | 2 Yoga


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 21
    13.32k Easy @5:07 | HRR 61-68%

    Needed to get up and get a head start on the day today. A little work done before I headed out at 0630. Bitter despite no apparent frost. Forgot the HRM so Garmin told me I was overreaching, take 3.5 days easy or consider a day off :rolleyes: Standard miles in the dark. Mostly wet but some icy patches. Hard to see ice on tarmac and had a little slip, jarring my right knee. Uneventful from there except for a complete idiot driver who sped through a pedestrian crossing and nearly took me out of it. Its well lit up and I was in a hi-viz. He literally passed a foot in front of me and gave me an awful jolt. I rarely swear but left a roaring set of expletives after him :mad:

    I need to make a conscious effort to get up and move during the day so will plug in some short S&C bits.

    Gotta say, I'm delighted the Clown is gone and Americans can look forward to, hopefully, a more normal life. The way Lady Gaga belted this out was hard not to get choked.



    2021
    162/2,600 miles (261/4,200 km)
    695/10,000 press ups | 295/2,000 pull ups
    29/1,000 km rowing
    21/21 days active | 19 Run | 5 Row | 9 S&C | 2 Yoga


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 22
    12k Easy January Challenge

    Lovely cold crisp evening. Pretty mentally exhausted after this week and it at least woke me up. No sorting the world, mindless miles. I had covered my watch intending to find a rhythm. A go at the RPE challenge. No complaints from the body other than back stiffness from all the sitting. I was constantly up and down, in and out to the kids today. I did have a meeting with a guy today who live changed his baby (out of screen) and showed us the nappy (closed up), with his daughter playing the piano with abandon in the background! I guess we are all dealing with it the best we can.

    The run ended, feeling better than I started. Pressed the button to stop the watch only to find I had selected "run"!?:confused: It suddenly dawned on me that I hadn't started it originally and notifications switched off, I hadn't noticed :mad: Oh well,body thanked me again for movement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 23
    18.49k inc 6x5min LT off 2 mins | HRR 71-87%

    Keeping it simple this week. Just running, once a day. Focusing on form and quality. I am missing the mat though. I was looking forward to this, 30 minutes of work at 40min 10k pace. I felt good, really good, holding it back at times. It was a low to mid threshold zone workout and banked 22 of 30 mins in the LT zone (80-90% HRR). It was a bit of a cold, wet and dirty night but I didn't care. Just got stuck in and got it done. Some of the reps were a little hot but not by much. I never felt the raspy red zone breathing and despite the 2 mins recovery being at 5:00ish pace, I recovered well.

    6x5min LT (HRR 80-90%) off 2mins easy
    Target 4:00 range 3:55-4:05
    dist|time|pace|in range
    1.28km|5:00|3:55|Yes
    1.28km|5:00|3:54|No
    1.29km|5:00|3:52|No
    1.28km|5:00|3:54|No
    1.28km|5:00|3:55|Yes
    1.26km|5:00|3:58|Yes


    Chatting with a mate earlier I was reminded of a work trip this time last year. Indeed my last trip before the Pandemic closed in. I remember catching a beautiful frosty sunrise running through a lovely urban park.
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    2021
    181/2,600 miles (292/4,200 km)
    695/10,000 press ups | 295/2,000 pull ups
    29/1,000 km rowing
    23/23 days active | 21 Run | 5 Row | 9 S&C | 2 Yoga


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    When you say 40min 10k pace I assume you don't mean that's 10k effort for you? Otherwise it's not LT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    When you say 40min 10k pace I assume you don't mean that's 10k effort for you? Otherwise it's not LT?

    Correct. Basically I'm looking at the minutes I bank between 80-90%. This workout is 10k focused hence longer reps. I use HR to guide me early days when I don't know what pace to target. My immediate 10k goal is sub40 so I've progressing towards that building progressively longer reps at that pace. Actual 10k training effort would be high LT and low RZ. Thats too risky for me to train at yet. I've made that mistake training by target pace too early too many times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,795 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Good session, but is LT really up to 90% HRR? My number (following LT test) is 84% at the upper end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Good session, but is LT really up to 90% HRR? My number (following LT test) is 84% at the upper end.

    Yup. Linked an article below for you. Lots more like that. Its generally accepted that LT is between 80-90% HRR. Actual aerobic threshold also known as lactate threshold is the point where lactate starts to accumulate. This could be lower down that zone 82-83 for some and higher 87-88 for others. How quickly threshold onset is is individual.
    https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/lactatethreshold.html

    Its why I train and trust hr. I know what LT feels like physically and how my breathing changes. I've copped that the breathing is really the clue. For me I develop a slight rasp that turns into a wheeze by the time I get beyond LT and into the RZ. Problem is I've just not been disciplined enough to A) listen to that in sessions and B) recover appropriate to the workout effort.

    So in actual HR terms I know LT starts (I was lab tested) at about 167hr or 85.7%HRR and I cross into RZ around 173hr or 90.0% HRR. 10k effort will be up here and when it gets to 180hr or 95% HRR I'm burning matches faster than I can replace them.

    The session tonight maxed at 87.1% HRR with most of the LT minutes at 84-85% HRR so for me that's right where I want to be.

    Next week I'm going to do a 5kTT with just HR on my screen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 24
    15.13k Capped Easy @5:18 | HRR 55-66%

    104.2k in 8hr42 for the week.

    Relaxed reflective run in the late winter sunshine. Even the country sections were busy with walkers and families on bikes. Ran in the buckets, my nickname for the New Balance 1080v10s. Its my second pair. I have maybe 100-150km left in them before they become rather comfortable walking shoes. They served a purpose to highly cushion my return to running after a new type of injury. Still not of the woods on that front but running regularly. I just find them heavy and loud. The sole is so wide it makes my all my other shoes look like skimmed tempo shoes.

    Reflective run on life and running things. On the running I pondered breathing and how I nearly hold my next breath until I've passed on coming walkers. Its so obvious in the cold. I take a wide berth but some people visibly cover their face, despite wearing a mask. Interestingly I'm also much more socially aware running. I run alone practically always and can zone out. With masks you tend to catch eye contact and most people are acknowledging or smiling.

    I also pondered the long run and its place in 5-10k training? Do you need a long run if every run is 11-15k or 16k+ on workouts anyway? How long should a LR be in a 10k plan relative to volume, pace etc? I'm hitting my weekly volume without a specific LR. And if already doing 2x 5-10k workouts a week should a LR be vanilla? Ill dive into the books but interested in any feedback, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    There's a million ways to answer your question so I'll only offer my opinion!

    I think there's always a place for a long run in someone training for 5k-10k. You could argue what the volume of that long run should be. For me, the distance/time is roughly capped at 14M/2hrs. Roughly 25% of my weekly mileage. Its not unusual to see the long run shorten as the sessions grow more intense.

    You have a mileage intense week across the board. I don't see many shortish recovery days. For context, four of my weekly seven runs are generally capped at 50/55mins. I don't know if that impacts the quality of your sessions. It certainly would impact mine. The idea being I have four genuinely easy days where I recover well for my sessions. The long run is purely maintenance and the sessions are key.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Thanks P. Thats not exactly too different to a marathon LR time wise. I generally cap at 2:15. Although marathon LRs will have stuff or steady pace involved. Might be an idea to bring a couple of runs back to 50-55min better chance to get them in a lunchbreak. Was thinking I'll gradually lengthen the Sunday run but acutely aware of risk of volume on the foot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    I think maybe one of the key differences is the marathon training is probably one session, one long session and the rest easy? With maybe one of the easy being medium longish?

    I basically have two days between long run to next session. Then another two days from session to session. Then I have my long run the day after the second session. Carrying tired legs into the long run.

    So I have to shorten the midweek easy runs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 25
    36 mins Yoga | Yoga with Adrienne "Breathe" Day 3/30
    12.03k Steasy @5:00 | January Running RPE Challenge


    TbL will love this :D Put Leggings/tights on at 6am. Decided not to head out in the minus 6 fog due to asthma. Logged into work for a bit, creaking yoga for a bit, a bit of breakfast, a bit of work, a run, more work... all in tights :D:D

    January RPE Running Challenge used up all of my lunchtime. Literally out the door, signal in seconds and head off. Straight out and back to Swashbucklers side of town. Took a while to find the rhythm. First Km was basically BALTIC! I had my long sleeve over my watch and grabbed into my fists just in case it revealed the HR screen. No idea of pace, just find some pace and get warm.

    Km 2 was downtown and I knew it was too quick. Figured I'd settle and make it up on the drag back up town. Found a plodding rhythm and stuck to it until I got back up town. No idea. Too worried about cadence focused as it usually speeds me up. Figured I was ahead as I usually come back from town a little faster, warmed up. Felt I needed to slow slightly approaching home but I also needed the bathroom badly :(

    1:00:13 by the time I checked the watch. No counting strides :)

    2021
    198/2,600 miles (319/4,200 km)
    695/10,000 press ups | 295/2,000 pull ups
    29/1,000 km rowing
    25/25 days active | 23 Run | 5 Row | 9 S&C | 3 Yoga


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Can I ask about the yoga with Adrienne (I just found her on YouTube) - are there any of her videos in particular you’d recommend, or is it just a case of trying them out randomly to see what suits ? She seems to have loads !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Bungy Girl wrote: »
    Can I ask about the yoga with Adrienne (I just found her on YouTube) - are there any of her videos in particular you’d recommend, or is it just a case of trying them out randomly to see what suits ? She seems to have loads !

    Hey! Yeah she has tons. Links to some recommendations below. Yoga for runners is good core and leg flexibility. Office workers playlist if you sit in a chair most of the day.

    Her 30 day programs are good. The Home 30 day I've done twice before and I recommend it. The Breathe program is her latest and the one I've started.

    You can check her channel playlists and sort by length too. This is a good way to find a quick 10min routine. I'd also recommend Google sun salutation sequences. Practice one and learn it. Each sequence can be 5-10 mins depending on how long you hold poses or how many steps in the sequence. You can do multiple reps of a sequence. Sun salutations are my go to for quick 10mins post shivery run, or slow relaxed 50mins on a sunny morning.

    30 day "Breathe" Journey
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLui6Eyny-UzzJ4NSTesh4xRWg4ZWNz5s4

    30 day "Home" Journey
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLui6Eyny-UzzFFfpiil94CUrWKVMaqmkm

    Yoga for office workers playlist
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLui6Eyny-UzziN5FGuxItfxlbHVrrk7jt

    Yoga for Runners playlist
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLui6Eyny-UzzoiewtypZsiw2OIUz2btnD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,664 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


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    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Brilliant ! Thanks a million for all the info.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 26 - 5k TT

    I was sort of procrastinating. Mentally pushing this out to tomorrow. However its a first of the year and a benchmark. I was at 20:02 this very day last year so anything better would be a good start. I was not aiming for time though. This would be an exercise in HR control. I speak up enough about training by HR/HRR on this forum so I figured I'd actually use it in a TT. It was the only metric on the watch face.

    A grey wet misty sort of day but mild and relatively calm. I took my usual 20 minute warm up to the Industrial Estate and threw in 4x 20sec strides to wake the legs up.

    The strategy
    Avoid the redzone (90%+ HRR or 173 actual HR) for 2km. Try at stay in the mid to high threshold zone 85-89% HRR (165-172HR)
    Km 3 low redzone, stay well under 95% HRR (180HR)
    Km 4 aim to hit 95% HRR (180HR)
    Km 5 just give it what ever is left

    Actual
    I got into stride pretty quickly but was alarmed at seeing 163HR within a minute :( I mentally settled, relaxed my shoulders, focused on breathing. KM 1 pinged in 3:43 and HRR 88%. Too fast I thought, my usual but I didn't blow up, just steady it.

    Km 2 avoid the redzone. I really tried to maintain the cadence but control my breathing. The effort kept climbing but I slowed the climb a little. I was onto lap 2 of 4 of the Estate and did not want to see 172HR yet. 88%, 89%, 90%, 91%.. F&@k, calm down Mike. Beep, 3:49 and came back to 90%. Still a bit pacey but have not blown it yet. Trust the HR, ignore teh pace!.

    Km 3 I'm settled in now, and working. After 2 laps of the Estate I was firmly on 91% effort. Halfway done and redzone. Time to dig in. Again try to stop the cardiac drift accelerating too quickly. I felt like I had relaxed and was surprised when the watch beeped 3:44. I realized sub20 was in the bag if I just didn't fall apart but too early to count chickens.

    Km 4 and its starting to close in. The last 2 turns of the Estate on lap 3 were hard. I was at 94% effort (HRR) and breathing heavily. I had spent more time that I'd planned in the redone but had yet to see 180HR. I knew it was coming. I felt it in my burning lungs, my screaming legs as my shoulders got involved for the first time to pump the arms. I entertained the first thought of stopping and quickly banished it as I entered the final lap of the Estate. I was mentally prepared to finish this! The watch beeped 3:43 but I didn't even notice.

    Km 5 pour it out! I broke down what was left , 3 right hand turns, thats it. My form is starting to crumble inwards and my breathing is wheezing. My arms are starting to cross my body. I'm falling back to my heels. Before each corner, despite the hurt, I purposely straighten my back, took a deep breath and got back to my toes. 95, 96% HRR. I felt as though I was done, 700m to go and there is no more in the tank. However 181HR on my watch face tells me there is more to give. I can't argue, just push! The last turn and its a straight 300m to finish. The watch beeped 3:40 and I'm on my knees. I quickly realise despite setting the workout as a straight 5k, the watch is running on.

    I jogged home catching my breath and loosening my arms with no idea what my time was. I knew I had hit 182HR which was 97% so I gave it a pretty good effort. I also felt satisfied that I paced it well. It hurt but I finished with my fastest split. I also felt satisfied that I could handle more of the redzone than I anticipated. No matter what it was a solid start.

    When I stopped the watch at home, it beeped with "1 new record".. 5K in 18:41 :eek::D Sub 19 was unexpected but I did NOT expect that. 12 seconds faster than my Boards 5K TT last year and faster than I've run for 5k in a decade :) And it was a negative split :)

    Actual Splits
    km1 3:43
    km2 3:49
    km3 3:44
    km4 3:43
    km5 3:40

    8 minute threshold zone, 10 minute redzone. HRR average 84% max 97%.
    Could not have gone better :)


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