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Sunrise Running

  • 29-12-2020 7:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭


    Simple log title to reflect my preference to run in the morning. I like to run by feel. I like to feel a rhythm. Running to a rhythm as the dark sky cracks, revealing the beginning of a sunrise, is an energizing way to start the day :) Plus in a busy urban life, its the only guaranteed way to find peace!

    A new log. Possibly my last one.

    2020 Actual - 10 hrs/week, 6 days active and 2,100 miles (40 mpw), despite not running for most of the summer due to injury.

    2021 Target - Same volume 10 hrs/week, 6 days active for 2,600 miles (50mpw)

    All PRs are under attack! To PR, the efforts to beat are...

    Mile -- 5:35 pace (2020)
    5k -- 5:52 pace (2011)
    10k -- 6:08 pace (2011)
    10m -- 6:14 pace (2010)
    HM -- 6:23 pace (2012)
    FM -- 6:49 pace (2019)

    Some of the targets may need more time than 2021. The older ones were from a time when I was pretty fit and had a coach. All will be tough to beat. Instead of a shiny pair of luminous adizero adios pro, Santa this year brought a comfy pair of Ugg... slippers! I'm not that old yet, its more to do with an underlying metatarsal bursitis issue. It carries risk if flaring at any time. How much mileage can I build? How hard can I push the envelope? If I can stay healthy and motivated, 2021 will likely split into 3 phases.

    Phase 1
    Test myself regularly over 2k, 5k and 10k. Enter races if they pop up. Proactive focus on S&C and running accessories. Mind the foot.

    Phase 2
    Switch summer focus to a 5 day team Adventure Race in Scotland (if it goes ahead). Running focus turns to base long runs, exploring MP effort. I'll take a full 1-2 weeks break after the race as the body will need it.

    Phase 3
    An 8 week build and peak for a PR attempt at DCM 2021 (if it goes ahead). Execute a Half Marathon TT or event en route. Ideally bank the PR, take a break and switch focus back to 5k, 10k. All going well I'd be fit for some winter XC.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭healy1835


    Nice one Mike. Glad you started a new log as there's always something to be gleaned from your posts :) quick question; do those Ugg's have a carbon plate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    healy1835 wrote: »
    Nice one Mike. Glad you started a new log as there's always something to be gleaned from your posts :) quick question; do those Ugg's have a carbon plate?

    +1, lots to learn here, best of luck in 2021!

    Interestingly, my physio told me to stay well away from UGG and sketcher type shoes & boots as they don't provide enough stability for the foot. However, I'm much older than you and probably have a different area of weakness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Lol haha J. The slippers are basically as I now WFH I'm constantly walking barefoot on hard floor tiles. Interesting the Pro shoes debate. I waited until others popped up. Have my name on a waiting list for the Adidas Adios Pro. Even if I do get a pair though, I promised they won't be used until I bag at least one PR. That depends on how the foot holds up to forefoot pounding..

    A - the Uggs are simply for cushion around the house. My physio is good but hadn't a clue about the bursitis. Foot strengthening stuff. Otherwise if it flares, an injection to get X months..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,595 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Good title! Best of luck with those goals. Presume you’ve listed paces as you’re predicting plenty of TTs rather than races, which seems sensible for 2021. Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Hipster with your UGG slippers....... Your probably growing the hair long at the minute to so you can tie it in a man bun!!!

    Best of luck with the log M, will be following with great interest as always.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Ah thanks lads.

    D - good assumption! Probably TTs until the summer at least. While injured last summer I did a number of progressive rowing TTs. Tough but very satisfying. Thought I'd apply a similar approach to running. Pace focus instead of time so I can bank x minutes per week at target paces or % of target paces. Similar to MP focus but for shorter distance. Hopefully will help me control workout efforts better.

    B - man bun eh, are you creating a running forum calendar? Lol what month is TbLs arse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    Personally, I'm all for comfy slippers. Those, a good pair of jammies, a nice neck warmer and a solid hat are winter essentials.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    W/E 2 Jan - Monday to Wednesday
    M: 9.31 miles @7:45 | HRR 69-80%

    Felt suitably heavy and sluggish. It will take a few clean January weeks to undo the excess festive kcals. Harder to do every year. Brisk cadence in a bitter north easterly. Easy to steady effort. The body was stiff from a pile of impromptu squats the previous evening. Thought it had loosened during the run but the DOMS were even worse that evening. Too sore to roll out.

    T: Day off. Long walk with the kids.

    W: 8.15 miles @8:07 | HRR 60%

    Chilly and calm morning. Still cold enough to see my breath and freeze my knuckles. Easy miles but the body was reluctant. Each freezing mile felt like double gravity. 5 miles in I came across a post with a sign. Olympic Trail 4. The 2.6k trail used by Neil Cusak so many times to train for the 1972 (10,000m) and 1976 (Marathon) Olympics. So many times I've passed it and never noticed. Still on a plod though approaching the bridge back into town. A local speedster passed me looking speedy. Perked my posture up for the last 2 miles home in a light cold rain.

    HRR (Heart Rate Reserve) vs MHR (Max Heart Rate)
    Why I use HRR? Its an extra variable. It takes in your max and resting heart rate. Max doesn't change much but resting HR is different per person and can change as your fitness peaks and troughs. There is a good HR Training thread in the main forum for anyone thinking of using HR with shiny new watches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Neil Cusack maybe??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    Was always curious if you quoted HRR numbers in your training and meant it as heart rate reserve because they seemed way too low for the effort you were putting out if they were HR max %s.

    Do you recalculate manually afterwards or does your watch do it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,595 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    How often do you check your RHR? Given that it's best to do before you get out of bed (or at least that's my understanding), if you haven't thought to do it that morning, you won't really know when you're heading out the door. When marathon training I got into the habit of keeping a pulse-ox monitor on my bedside table to get a good read.

    I guess this is one advantage of being a morning runner like yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    I check HR everyday. Garmin Connect tracks it too. Rest/Max everyday and a 7 day rolling avg. I set my zones to automatically pick up rest and max on GC for HRR. I use HRR as a guide on runs. If its a capped easy run, its the only metric I use. I think it picks up the avg rest hr instead of the lowest point of the day. The wrist based hr can throw up anomalies.

    The Garmin watch run summary details doesn't give me avg HRR though. Not sure how/if you can change that.

    I take my actual avg/max hr values and put them on a drive sheet that auto calcs HRR that auto colour codes zones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Happy to see this log. All the best with the 2021 plans. We may even get to run a TT together at some point!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    I check HR everyday. Garmin Connect tracks it too. Rest/Max everyday and a 7 day rolling avg. I set my zones to automatically pick up rest and max on GC for HRR. I use HRR as a guide on runs. If its a capped easy run, its the only metric I use. I think it picks up the avg rest hr instead of the lowest point of the day. The wrist based hr can throw up anomalies.

    The Garmin watch run summary details doesn't give me avg HRR though. Not sure how/if you can change that.

    I take my actual avg/max hr values and put them on a drive sheet that auto calcs HRR that auto colour codes zones.

    How do you set it to automatically adjust? I have mine set for HRR too but I only see a box where you can enter your resting heart rate, I just picked a number that's about average for me most days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    How do you set it to automatically adjust? I have mine set for HRR too but I only see a box where you can enter your resting heart rate, I just picked a number that's about average for me most days.

    Morning! OK in Garmin Connect

    Garmin Devices/FRxxx or your watch version/user settings/Heart Rate Zones/select "based on % Heart Rate Reserve/select resting Heart Rate.. you should see option to "set custom" or "use automatic"

    Hope that helps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,595 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    My wrist monitor just does not work reliably on my skinny wrists so I can't trust the RHR it gives me at all. I think I'll try to get back to the pulse-ox on wakening routine as a new year resolution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    I don't have skinny wrists and the wbhr is still atrocious. I use a Garmin HRM-RUN strap. I sometimes forget it and rubbish the data. Although, will say it usually settles after 10mins. Can spike at any time too. I don't like to wear the watch as tight as you need for a better running hr read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Morning! OK in Garmin Connect

    Garmin Devices/FRxxx or your watch version/user settings/Heart Rate Zones/select "based on % Heart Rate Reserve/select resting Heart Rate.. you should see option to "set custom" or "use automatic"

    Hope that helps?

    Thanks, I have selected 'based on % HRR' but I don't see any option for 'select resting heart rate', only a box where I can enter a fixed number, nor do I see an option to set custom or use automatic. Perhaps its dependent on the watch! I don't think my RHR changes drastically enough for it to matter, it averages between 42 - 48 depending on sleep or wine quantities!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    New Years Eve 2020
    S&C: Row, skipping and tabata sets | HRR 66-89%
    6.31 miles progression | HRR 69-92%!!

    Appropriate way to finish this weird year. On the rower, the mat and the road. Totals, 2,100k on the rower, 60+ hours on the mat and 2,100 miles on the road/trail. 500 hours logged on 321 active days. Lots of work on the engine room and chassis.

    The workout was 20 mins row at 213w or 1:58.0/500m. I then tried out my new beast rope elite for 10 mins. I love the feel of the steel handles and smooth bearings. Struggled as a novice does but I will become a double under beast this year.

    Straight onto the mat then for some short sharp suffering. Tabata is 8 reps of 20sec on, hard as you can go, 10 sec rest. My little girl set up her mat to match me and my youngest slapped a cold wet hand towel off us during the session! 4 sets with 60 secs recovery... torture

    Set 1: Tabata burpees for score. Hit 9,8,7,7,7,7,7,7 for 59.
    Set 2: Tabata forward lunges/reverse lunge + knee drive
    Set 3: 16kg DB snatch/push ups
    Set 4: Core assault with hollow rocks/v sits

    The burpees were evil after just the 3rd rep. Hit a HRR max of 89% on this first set! The next set, lunges was grand. Set 3, the snatches were technical but the pushup were a mess after the burpees. Managed just 8 pushups on the last 20 sec. Thought the core round would be OK but how wrong I was. Tough workout. High 5'd my daughter who at 6 years was hitting 2-4 strict pushups and did the whole burpee round with me!

    Picked up the last 12kg slam ball at Aldi today so thrusters and wall balls will make it into the workouts soon.

    Later in the evening headed out for the final miles of 2020. Figured a short figure 8 of the quays and bridges. Quiet in town. Eerie with all the lights still on, especially the illuminated super still big wheel in the park. More birds than revellers, just a few couples taking selfies against a shiny high tide and its happy swans.

    8:11 first mile into a bitter breeze. Just trying to warm up. Figured a short run as the foot had a pounding with the skipping and burpees earlier. 7:39 mile 2, steady fresh cadence. 7:30 mile 3. Hmmm, push on? Figured I'd be hungover for any work tomorrow so decided to press it. 7:22 next mile including a run across an empty bridge in the middle of the road.

    The wind behind me running back up town but into a stride with 6:46 mile 5. Thought about dropping back to easy for the last mile but then thought, to hell with 2020. Pressed hard on the last few minutes up town, uphill, gasping. I was at 6:06 pace. Flat home, wind assisted, I gulped the cold air and smashed out a 5:49! HRR 92% to hit my 2nd fastest mile of the year! Nice way to cap it off.

    If the foot holds up, I will become a better runner in 2021.
    Happy New Year boardsies! Looking forward to the forum banter, following your logs and hopefully putting faces to names and some event or other! Stay safe..

    Shotgun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,595 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    I don't have skinny wrists and the wbhr is still atrocious. I use a Garmin HRM-RUN strap. I sometimes forget it and rubbish the data. Although, will say it usually settles after 10mins. Can spike at any time too. I don't like to wear the watch as tight as you need for a better running hr read.

    Yes, I use the strap too. I’m not asking the question properly - how do you know your resting HR day to day if you don’t trust the watch? I take it you don’t sleep wearing the strap!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Yes, I use the strap too. I’m not asking the question properly - how do you know your resting HR day to day if you don’t trust the watch? I take it you don’t sleep wearing the strap!

    OK got you. Most mornings, check the the last 4hr graph on the watch. Its not great during activities but at least you are relatively still for periods during sleep. Don't usually see the usual peaks on that "last 4hrs" when I wake up. Click that graph and you get a graph showing RHR over last 7 days. Gives you a number and trend. Its tracking 24/7 so despite not trusting during activities, I feel this 7 day trend is a decent gauge.

    Actual morning routine. My blood pressure drops suddenly making me dizzy if I leap out of the bed. Crazy bleary memories of picking the kids out of the cot as the world spun. Anyway, a good habit I've created is drinking a pint of water first thing. Sit up, feet on the floor and once in a while count my pulse for 30 secs. Do it twice to be sure. Usually find its a beat or 2 lower than my 7day Garmin avg. No big deal. It means <1% variance on HRR readings.

    In short I trust the watch more at rest than during activities but can't beat a simple pulse check.

    During activities, if I forget the strap for easy runs no big deal. However for workouts I'll grab the realistic data from GC. The time spent in zones is pretty useful, and based on the %HRR settings in GC. Using avg/max HRR is one measure but also useful to clock actual Z4 and particularly Z5 minutes per week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    New Years Day 2021
    7.35 miles easy @8:28 | HRR 64%

    A plod into darkness. A cold sunset reluctant hour with sore glutes. Bloody burpees. Loads out walking but dodging these electric scooters ain't fun. Lots of hopping on and off the curb. Legs fatigued. Tired. Took it a mile at a time wanting to bail often. Stood on the scale this morning. Apparently I'm obese and my bodyfat is close to 'high. Celebrated that instantly with 30 push ups and 15 pull ups.

    2021
    7/2,600 miles
    30/10,000 push ups
    15/2,000 pull ups

    Shotgun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 2
    Row 8,010m, 33mins @180w | 59%HRR
    Calisthenics 22mins

    Had an alarm set to run before Mrs Shotgun left for work. Slept through. Didnt even hear the kids. 10hrs sleep and woke up feeling ragged. Head cold. Explains why I felt so awful running yesterday. Hot toddies and fire going for the day. Went for a short walk to get the kids out of the house. Will get another good sleep and leave the run to tomorrow.

    Easy Row and conditioning to move the body. Low rate rowing felt OK. Little Ms Shotgun kept me company again for 2 rounds of 20 reps on the mat
    Forward lunge
    Reverse lunge
    Push ups
    Squat jump
    Calf raise
    Pull up (4x5)
    Side plank dip
    Hip bridge
    Supermans
    Mountain climber

    2021
    7/2,600 miles
    100/10,000 push ups
    65/2,000 pull ups

    Shotgun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 3
    Row 8k @182w | HRR 61-68%
    S&C 25mins plyometrics | HRR 66-81%

    I really wanted to run today. Gorgeous cold clear air. Alas headcold still bothering me. Runny nose and sneezing. Wouldn't get through a mile without snot rockets. Plus what would I get from a short easy run vs a night by the fire, mulled wine and an early nights sleep :rolleyes:

    Indoor session so. 33 mins on the rower at 2:04.4, a pace I'd like to hold for a marathon some day. Got a sweat going. Heart rate was ok for the effort, a sign that this is above the neck. Next, mat out for a plyo session. This log will refer to cals (calisthetics) and plyo (plyometrics) regularly this year. Cals are bodyweight exercises while plyo are body weight and/or some weights and more dynamic movements.

    Session was 3 Rounds of 60sec on/15sec off
    Skater jumping squats
    Mountain climbers
    Jumping lunges
    Russian twists with 12kg slam ball
    Single leg glute bridges
    Shoulder tap plank

    60 sec feels like a long time when you are going hard, particularly on the jumping lunges and the russian twists. Used the 12kg slam ball I got in Aldi. It will feature regularly too. Quality stuff. Still had to resist going for a run all day.

    Decided to swap to metric for this phase as I focus on 5k and 10k.

    Week 1
    49.9km (31 miles)
    1hr26 rowing
    1hr20 S&C

    6 days active but just 50/80km target running and 7/10 hours. An ok start.
    Next week is back to work and routine. I absolutely need to hit the morning predawn runs to get it done, plus get used to running metric again.

    2010
    7/2,600 miles (11/4,200 km)
    130/10,000 press ups
    75/2,000 pull ups
    21/1,000km rowing

    Shotgun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Great to see the new log started up :) good luck with the 2021 goals M!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 4
    Yoga 27 mins
    17.54k @4:53 |HRR 66-75%

    Woke up before the alarm. Ninja down the steps. Sleepy yoga with Adrienne. Made blueberry and banana creamy porridge, had coffee. Kids arrived down and we had ate together. Normally I'd be out the door first thing but with schools still off had the opportunity to wait for day break to avoid the icy frosty paths in the dark. Gorgeous calm clean cold air. No rush to start work first day back so enjoyed a longer one. Avocado and poached egg on homemade brown bread and another coffee for second breakfast :D

    Although it was daylight, it took over an hour for the sleepy winter sunrise to appear. Thought it appropriate to christen the log title with my first running sunrise of the year :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 5 - Workout Day
    C2 Row 8k easy | HRR avg 49% max 55%
    S&C 20min Test | HRR avg 71 max 87%
    12x400m off 60s | HRR avg 75 max 91%

    A few kcals burned today!

    Session 1
    Easy rowing warm up then a 20 minute AMRAP (as many rounds as possible). A Crossfit classic "Cindy" workout. As many rounds of strict 5 pull ups, 10 push ups, 15 squats as you can in 20 minutes.

    Result: 14 Rounds +11 reps. Total 75 pull ups, 146 push ups, 210 squats
    Gave it a good go and was wrecked for a finish. Push ups again is where I broke down. After 7 rounds down to 5,3,2. After 10 round down to 2, singles. Its only one round off my best of 2020. Pretty happy with that as a first attempt for this year.

    Session 2
    14.88km including a workout. 20 mins warm up in the Boston 7s. First non cushioned run shoe in months. It has some boost foam but you can really feel the road. A well broken in pair with 200 miles in them. Much prefer them to the Boston 8.

    Overall a a better controlled session than normal. Set the target around my current 5k PR. After the first 2 reps I found a groove for the next 4. Had to dodge some cars on rep 7 and switched off a little. Switched back on for rep 8 and it was much too fast :rolleyes: However, more or less back on track after that. Good workout off a smaller recovery than I historically used (Hansons Plan) but kept running between the reps. A solid 20 threshold minutes banked :)

    12x400m off 60s jog
    Target 3:50 range 3:45-3:55
    dist|time|pace|in range
    400m|1:32|3:52|Yes
    400m|1:28|3:42|No
    400m|1:31|3:49|Yes
    400m|1:30|3:47|Yes
    400m|1:30|3:46|Yes
    400m|1:30|3:47|Yes
    400m|1:33|3:54|Yes
    400m|1:27|3:38|No
    400m|1:31|3:50|Yes
    400m|1:31|3:49|Yes
    400m|1:31|3:48|Yes
    400m|1:29|3:43|No


    2010
    27/2,600 miles (42/4,200 km)
    306/10,000 press ups
    165/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    5/5 days active


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    It's amazing how quickly the push ups go. And once they're gone - they're gone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 6
    12.38k @5:20 | HRR avg 58% max 65%
    S&C: Calisthetics 26 mins | HRR avg 44% max 61%

    Sunrise running easy is lovely when you have the opportunity to eat some warm creamy porridge, read a chapter** and head out. Thats only due to Mrs Shotgun not working today and I don't have to do the 8am school run :) Sunrise is a lazy 0845 so I catch it towards the end of my run. That will be a different story mid summer when sunrise is before 5am :eek: B..B..B..Baltic again this morning, coldest one yet.

    A bit of fatigue in the legs to be expected. Last night I debated going out for the workout, thought I'd leave it for today. However, then thought having 2 easy days to recover would be better and that got me out.

    Some light Cals afterwards. Reducing sets of 10, 8, 6, 4, 2
    Pull/Chin ups
    Split squats each leg
    Push ups
    Pistol squats
    Plank up downs
    Dead bugs
    Hollow rocks
    Hollow arch

    **chapter ref
    = penultimate chapter of Sapiens - A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari. A very slow but interesting and thought provoking read. Its taken me a few goes and simply ages to get through it.

    A more urban sunrise running
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    2021
    35/2,600 miles (56/4,200 km)
    336/10,000 press ups
    195/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    6/6 days active


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 7
    8.15k snowy trail run @5:08 | HRR avg 65% max HRR 77%

    Heavy day at work today and knew I wouldn't have the energy nor the will later in the evening. We all had to go for Covid Tests during the day too which added business. Delighted I got out as it was a winter wonderland. I'm lucky living in Limerick City outskirts that I have a short trail loop behind my house. Perfect for a snowy trail loop to avoid icy paths. Over 75m elevation on a short lapped run had me breathing a little heavy. Had the trail to myself for half an hour until some dog walkers and photographers emerged. Legs a little tender so nothing more today.

    Well apart from 5x10 push ups and 5x5 pull ups :)

    No sunrise reveal and the only shot I got before my phone died.

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    2021
    40/2,600 miles (64/4,200 km)
    386/10,000 press ups
    220/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    7/7 days active


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Hope all is well concerning the covid tests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    Hope all is well concerning the covid tests.
    Thanks V. Call from Doc earlier and I'm negative. Came around pretty fast though (<24hrs) and didn't get the text. The system is not great he said. Mrs Shotgun and my youngest waiting on theirs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    Fingers crossed for the entire fam :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 8
    16.78k with 6x4min LT (Lactate Threshold) | avg HRR 70% max HRR 85%

    Happy running :) Really enjoyed this one! Crisp cold beautiful lunchtime. A few slippery parts on 4k warm up. Lots of people walking on the outside of the curb to avoid the slippery paths so I had to run into the middle of the road at times to keep my distance. The objective was to take this session conservatively. I wanted to aim for 4:00 pace but aimed for a pace of 4:10. I figured I can always adapt to 40 min 10k pace next time if I felt good enough.

    The HRR data would be the governing factor for that decision. It felt like lower LT zone or sweet spot training. Effort that feels like work but you are still breathing comfortably. I recovered well on the 2 mins easy too. 2 of the reps were outside the target range but barely so. Overall decent control and happy to execute a 2nd workout this week.

    The data afterwards tells me I spent 5 of 24 "work" minutes in the Lactate threshold zone. That less time banked in that zone than I would have liked. It tells me that I could try the 4:00 pace on the same session next week and see where that lands.

    This conservative approach is a change for me. Normally I'd set my goal pace and execute a workout. It feels better to finish well within myself knowing I can progress it next time :)

    6x4min LT (HRR 80-90%) off 2mins easy
    Target 4:10 range 4:05-4:15
    dist|time|pace|in range
    0.98km|4:00|4:04|No
    0.97km|4:00|4:07|Yes
    0.98km|4:00|4:04|No
    0.98km|4:00|4:06|Yes
    0.97km|4:00|4:08|Yes
    0.97km|4:00|4:07|Yes


    2021
    50/2,600 miles (81/4,200 km)
    386/10,000 press ups
    220/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    8/8 days active


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    In relation to conservative I read an interesting couple of lines during the week. It's better to push from below rather than pull from above i.e train don't strain. If your theorerical threshold is 4min/km it's better to run 4.05 than 3.55.

    Mind that foot! Ten miles volume with a session is no mean feat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Thanks P. My goal is to PR but not leaping over tall buildings for it. Iterative process. Sub 40 first. Ill move the session on a few seconds next week. When I can execute at 3:55, I'll lengthen the reps and start building to the TT. Ill catch the sub20 5k as I go.

    Re: Shoes question on Strava. I wore the Boston 8 today. As I got back to running recently I've been rotating easy shoes only. Peg 36, Beacon 3 and 1080v10. The foot situation is there and I'm managing. Hence why I've avoided more snug fitting shoes like Boston 7 and 8, NB 1500v5 and Adizero 4. Tried Boston 7 on the Tuesday session. 360km in them. Went fine but now more conscious about fit.

    Relaced the Boston 8 today, just 40km on them. A size up for my wide foot but nice fit once I have the 2 fingers width between eyelets. When I first tried the Boston 8 I really thought daily trainer and maybe longer steady runs. So the LT reps not the use case for me today. Having said that, the Adizero 4 are tighter again and while I ran the 5k and mile TTs in them last year, too much ground feel and too tight for my foot right now.

    I do like the adidas feel for mid range. I think I'll try one of the higher stack height shoes for tempo stuff this year. But first need to get more miles on some current shoes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    I can't warm to the Boston 8 atall. I think it's mainly the upper I don't like. Cushioning is fine for me. I like the Adidas boost foam. Very different to Nike.

    Huge fan of the adizero adios 3 and 4. Id use the 3 and 4 for sessions and tempo running. Would've used them racing more if I hadn't purchased a bunch of fancy racers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    I much prefer the Adidas boost foam to the Nike zoom x. The peg36 and Boston 8, both black and same size, sit next to each other on the rack. I use both for similar purposes although I'll reach for the Boston 8 for tempo before the Pegs. The upper isn't exciting in either of them. Both nice shoes to run easy to stretchy miles but the Boston is a more fun shoe. Interestingly I looked over some garmin run dynamic history. Dynamics I actively use are HR, Cadence, L/R balance and Zones.

    The L/R ground contact balance is usually 48.5% L / 51.5% R with worst case being 48/52. Not a huge diviation. However the 4% difference (a magic number apparently!) over thousands of steps must make a difference? Maybe why my right hip flexor gives out sometimes.

    Nike Peg 36 - avg 48.8/51.2
    Boston 8 avg 49.6/50.4

    It may be nothing but <1% balance deviation for the Boston 8 may be one reason why a prefer the boost foam. It has just a bit more pop.

    In terms of pop, looking forward to someday trying out some of those fancy racers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    What route do you think you'd go with the fancy racers? Which ones pique your interest most?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    What route do you think you'd go with the fancy racers? Which ones pique your interest most?
    Have a pair of Endorphin Speeds winging their way to me. Wont wear them until I break my 2020 Boards 5k TT PR in "normal Adizero 4". I want to earn them.

    Also, when I can get them, Adidas Adios Pro. Ill set a personal goal to earn the right to wear those too!

    Mainly because neither of them have a full carbon plate. The Endorphin Speeds have a nylon plate and the Adios Pro a heel plate and metatarsal rods... I'm intrigued!

    Both reasonably priced too. Nike are basically adding a brand tax IMO. Really good that other brands are getting their act together. Ill be very late to the party by the time I try them out though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 9
    C2 Row 20mins steady warm up
    S&C 35mins Skipping & Plyometrics | avg HRR 65% max HRR 79%
    11.9k Jan RPE challenge | avg HRR 66% max HRR 73%

    Family all back negative. Relief.
    I didnt get out in the freezing fog this morning before Mrs Shotgun got ready for work so window lost, I thought. Workout after I'd fed the kids. Steady row interrupted by injury. Not to me, my youngest took a hopper wrestling with his sister. Just a bump and he was fine.

    Out onto the freezing decking for 10mins skipping. Still learning. Still whipping my ankles.

    The workout was 3 rounds of 60s/15s and 1min break.
    Burpees
    Mountain climbers
    16kg DB snatch
    Box jumps
    12kg slam ball thrusters
    Plank with reach back and out

    Tougher than it looks written down!

    My daughter got a fitbit for Xmas and constantly showing me her steps. Heading to bed she checked mine. Despite a walk today, just 6k. "You need to go out and run abd get your 10,000!" She said. "And give me a hug when you get back... so I can check!". I had a roaring fire on and Mrs Shotgun was home settling down. I reluctantly headed out into the dark freezing fog.

    Figured I'd run on feel for an hour for an attempt at the challenge on the forum. 59:05 was a decent effort. Within a minute. Brain hurt from trying to do maths while running though.

    2021
    57/2,600 miles (93/4,200 km)
    386/10,000 press ups
    220/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    9/9 days active


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 10
    8.12k easy @5:22 | avg HRR 57% max HRR 64%

    More or less hit my weekly targets by Saturday this week so this was a few very easy kms. Watching Irelands Fittest Family my daughter got us up for "back against the wall". She did well at 8 mins, in bare feet and fluffy pyjamas, she is 6. I held the squat for 20 mins. The quads were burning but not under too much pressure. I needed them for a run. My sister video called us a few mins later. My uber competitive niece finished up with flushed cheeks after 24 mins. She is 7. No doubt my brother and his kids were at it too.

    Tucked in the kids and got the run done, mainly to hit the last objective of the week. All of a sudden its mild out!!

    Overall a good week.
    90k, 7 days active and 10 hours
    7hrs running, 2hrs S&C, 1hr rowing
    2x workouts and feeling good.

    More of the same next week.

    2021
    63/2,600 miles (101/4,200 km)
    431/10,000 press ups
    235/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    10/10days active


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 11
    Plyometrics 21min PE with Joe
    16.86k Steasy @4:55 |avg HRR 66% max 75%

    A mild soggy dreary breezy day out there today. Grey, grey grey. Got soaked in that unrelenting heavy mist. Felt easy until I maintained cadence running up hills into that breeze. Effort spilled into the steady aerobic zone.. the abyss. Still, I appreciated getting out of suburbia and into the potholed countryside for a few clicks. Not bothered with the alerts, just ran.

    My daughter has PE with Joe in her home school schedule so we all got involved this morning. He had 120k live following :eek: It was 2 rounds of 10 exercises 35s/25s. Amazing how hard a "bunny ears hop" can attack your lower core! My daughter told me to stop doing the burpees so fast as it gave me an "angry face" :D

    6x10 push ups and 6x5 pull ups afterwards. Big red face for team meeting :cool:

    2021
    74/2,600 miles (118/4,200 km)
    491/10,000 press ups
    265/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    10/10days active


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Even competitive with your own kids....... Haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 12
    15.67k inc 3x(3,2,1min off 60s) 2 mins easy | avg HRR 73% max 91%

    Wretched weather. Not a single dog walker on paths that were thronged a few days ago. Mrs Shotgun off today meant I could get out during the day, and avoid the home schooling. However that entailed watching the horizontal misty rain out the window all morning. Hardly enticing to run let alone do a workout :rolleyes:

    Wore the Adizero 4 for the first time since last summer. Lovely lovely shoe. No bother in the wet, locked in and tap tap tap... loving the cadence of a fresh speed workout. 20 miserable minutes warm up. A few other resilient January runners out, mostly grimacing.

    I hit the target pace for most reps but it was about getting it done reluctantly. The Industrial Estate was wet, gritty, dirty and full of trucks. During the final 3 minute rep into the wind a HGV, forced me onto the path and nearly threw me off balance. As it passed a gust of air and dirty water enveloped me.

    17 of the 18 work minutes banked in the threshold zone and barely touched the red zone. An ugly gritty sort of workout but good value.

    3x (3',2',1min off 60s) 2 mins easy
    Target 3:50 range 3:45-3:55
    rep dist|rep time|avg pace|in range
    0.80km|3:00|3:46|Yes
    0.53km|2:00|3:48|Yes
    0.28km|1:00|3:36|No
    0.79km|3:00|3:47|Yes
    0.53km|2:00|3:47|Yes
    0.26km|1:00|3:52|Yes
    0.78km|3:00|3:50|Yes
    0.54km|2:00|3:40|No
    0.26km|1:00|3:47|Yes


    2021
    83/2,600 miles (134/4,200 km)
    491/10,000 press ups
    265/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    11/11 days active


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Love the Adizero 4. Definitely no issue with grip - Continental sole! Funny the way things have gone with shoes. Three years ago it would have been my go to racer. Not sure it would even feature as a possibility now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Love the Adizero 4. Definitely no issue with grip - Continental sole! Funny the way things have gone with shoes. Three years ago it would have been my go to racer. Not sure it would even feature as a possibility now.

    Yeah the continental sole is awesome. Just 80m (130k) on them and have another pair new in a box. Guess I'll be using them for a while yet. The fancy racers (when I get them) will sit there looking at me until I PR. The Boards 5k TT PR (18:53) will do. It will be a while until I'm back in that shape. Then hopefully the fancy racers will take me on to lifetime PRs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Jan 13
    12.65k @5:13 Easy miles | avg HRR 57% max 67%
    Yoga 36 mins | Yoga with Adrienne "Breathe" Day 2/30
    Plyometrics 20 min PE with Joe

    Relaxed run around the city bridges. A few other 7am runners and walkers about, otherwise rather peaceful. Even the swans were still asleep or lazily grooming themselves. The sounds of chirping passing the empty fabulous Curragower restaurant. More akin to the dawn chorus of a Sunday morning than midweek.

    Its one of my favourite corners of Limerick to run. Around the Treaty Stone and onto the old Thomond Bridge facing King Johns Castle. In the 17th century during an early Irish Rebellion, a few hundred protestants holed up in the castle. They positioned snipers in the small town houses across from the massive castle entrance, to protect the bridge passageway. Some of those houses remain and are now painted in bright colours. My imagination often runs, crossing this oldest part of Limerick. The battles that took place. So many times Limerick itself was burned to the ground but the Castle and bridge remained.

    Some Yoga with Adrienne when I got back. Lulled by 10 minutes of easy breathing and meditation before the glutes and core burned. "Breathe" Day 2 of 30. Check it out if you are into yoga. Enjoyable one.

    20 minutes excitable family PE with Joe afterward. 35 sec on 25 sec off. 20 exercises. The hilarity and pain of the duck walk and bear crawl around the room colliding into each other :D

    For a finish 5 sets of press ups to max with a minute rest. I managed 52, 15, 13, 12, 12. That last 12 was everything I had to drag the total to 100 for the first time. My shoulders and arms were on fire and dead from the first set. 4 more sets to max after it was just nasty. Total 104 reps.

    survivor-of-thomond-bridge-tragedy-praises-organisers-of-candlelight-vigil.jpg


    2021
    91/2,600 miles (146/4,200 km)
    595/10,000 press ups | 265/2,000 pull ups
    24/1,000 km rowing
    13/13 days active | 11 Run | 4 Row | 8 S&C | 2 Yoga


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Love that part of town too - didnt realise the history. Great pic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Love that part of town too - didnt realise the history. Great pic.

    Thats more recent history. It goes back over 1300 years to the Vikings! I find knowing even a little history about your routes, particularly if you run by landmarks, makes the route that bit more interesting. There is a nice little coffee house "Jack Mondays" on the bridge too opposite the Treaty Stone.

    Folks if you are ever in Limerick and going for a run, give me a holler for a running tour :)


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