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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #9542
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    The most frustrating part of this is they could have done it so much earlier and that government here with all their excuses will now bring it in..

    https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1353416446047621124


  • #9543
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    It is amazing that the government has not rolled out a health programme involving the population be encouraged to take Vitamin D. There are no downsides and many indections that having high levels of vitamin D will save you from the worst effects of covid.
    No proper clinical studies finished yet in relation to COVID is why the HSE/DoH don't but they do encourage Vitamin D for immune systems boosts.


  • #9544
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Kent's cases continued to grow under restrictions very similar to level 5.

    Pubs, restaurants and non essential retail shut. Schools open.
    It was well adhered to, but cases got out of control anyways.

    If schools are open that'd explain it. They had loads of cases here which were massaged and called community transmission


  • #9545
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    There will be uproar if they do . So many vulnerable people waiting for it now

    Yeah, especially if schools only open at the end of February - between the Easter break and finishing up at the end of May, they’ll only be in the classroom for 2.5 months. Primary school - 3.5 months. By the time schools open again in September, every adult in Ireland will have gotten the vaccine, according to Stephen Donnelly.


  • #9546
    Qwertyminger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Qwertyminger


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    You've fallen victim to the 'curse of the newly registered' - they all end up on the receiving end of societal carry on that is beyond most people's normal experience.
    "Beyond most normal people's experience" sounds like you're accusing me of lying.

    I don't see how my registration status has anything to do with the message my friend sent where i can hear a crowd? I can upload it for you and you can have a listen if you don't believe me.


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  • #9547
    one armed dwarf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    There is I think a small chance of kidney damage from taking too much vitamin d, how much is 'too much' is something I don't know but I wonder if that could be a reason for being not saying much about it.

    Along with the fact that the existing data 'suggests' that it could help avoid poor outcomes with covid, but nothing much to prove that it will. Diet is also important for vitamin d absorption.

    fwiw I've been taking it since late 2019, my levels were checked at the time and were below normal. Once I completed that course the pandemic started, so I've been supplementing with a less high dose than I was on. Tbh I would like to get my levels checked again when things get safer.


  • #9548
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,414 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Deleted User wrote: »
    RTÉ rubbing in the depressing aspects.

    Agreed. RTE have been a ghoulish disgrace since March. They have also dumbed down everything on their previously prestigious shows (e.g. LLS, Claire Byrne Live, Prime Time) to the point that they are unwatchable and just plain silly.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #9549
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    is_that_so wrote: »
    No proper clinical studies finished yet in relation to COVID is why the HSE/DoH don't but they do encourage Vitamin D for immune systems boosts.


    So many studies are saying there is a correlation between low vitamin D levels and more severe effects of covid on that cohort. These early studies also show a correlation between high vitamin D levels and much less severe symptoms and better outcomes. There are so many studies at this stage and so many doctors saying this that it is really time to act on it. There are no downsides to taking viaminD.


  • #9550
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Agreed. RTE have been a ghoulish disgrace since March. They have also dumbed down everything on their previously prestigious shows (e.g. LLS, Claire Byrne Live, Prime Time) to the point that they are unwatchable and just plain silly.

    Agreed. Claire Byrne Live is like something you’d see on daytime TV.


  • #9551
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Trouble is people who are generally in lower health tend to have lower vitamin D levels. Many use this to conclude that Vitamin is a contributory factor in this poor health. Others see it as an the underlying poor health contributing to the low vitamin D levels.

    Correlation doesn't imply causation. Mass supplements of Vit D needs evidence just like any other treatment does.

    It is also not helped by there being an almost fad like devotion to the alleged benefits of vitamin D with over a decade now.


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  • #9552
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Are close contacts currently being tested or is it just symptomatic people at the moment? Cases are going in the right direction thankfully


  • #9553
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Agreed. RTE have been a ghoulish disgrace since March. They have also dumbed down everything on their previously prestigious shows (e.g. LLS, Claire Byrne Live, Prime Time) to the point that they are unwatchable and just plain silly.

    Claire Byrne Live was once a prestigious show?


  • #9554
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Eod100 wrote: »
    The most frustrating part of this is they could have done it so much earlier and that government here with all their excuses will now bring it in..

    https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1353416446047621124

    This is fantastic news.

    It's tough not to think of all the lives and livelihoods that could have been saved over the past year if we had done this at the start.

    But better late than never.


  • #9555
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,752 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    StevenToast wrote: »
    Very bad figures for a Sunday....cant read too much into them...will have to wait until Tuesday to get a better idea of how its going.

    What?


  • #9556
    Purple Papillon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36 ✭Purple Papillon


    ginoginelli wrote: »
    This is fantastic news.

    It's tough not to think of all the lives and livelihoods that could have been saved over the past year if we had done this at the start.

    But better late than never.

    I think Sebastian is an English journalist so he will be referring to events due to happen in the UK.

    I doubt Ireland will follow the UK down the route of quarantine but you never know. Talk about closing the stable door after the horse bolting. A lot of sickness, disease and death could have been avoided if they did this from the start.


  • #9557
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Polar101


    ginoginelli wrote: »
    This is fantastic news.

    It's tough not to think of all the lives and livelihoods that could have been saved over the past year if we had done this at the start.

    But better late than never.

    Yes, but that's the UK cabinet. Here it still seems to be "please show a test result, and if you don't, you might get fined.. or not".


  • #9558
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Yes, but that's the UK cabinet. Here it still seems to be "please show a test result, and if you don't, you might get fined.. or not".

    Gov here have said they'd look into bringing it in if UK gov do. Time to call their bluff now


  • #9559
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Gov here have said they'd look into bringing it in if UK gov do. Time to call their bluff now

    UK gov seem split. Other journalists tweeting it will only be for certain countries and not a blanket measure.


  • #9560
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    UK gov seem split. Other journalists tweeting it will only be for certain countries and not a blanket measure.

    Nothing decided yet though. And better than current situation. Here it seems it might be for 5 days but say the gov will be under pressure next week to bring in something.


  • #9561
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    UK gov seem split. Other journalists tweeting it will only be for certain countries and not a blanket measure.

    Very doubtful it will be a blanket quarantine, also would mean they would have park the CTA or else it would be a waste of time.


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  • #9562
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    There is no way they will introduce mandatory quarantine in Ireland or the UK for EU or UK/Ireland travelers. It may be introduced for other third nations but how do you get on or off the list? It is a messy thing to implement.


  • #9563
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    So many studies are saying there is a correlation between low vitamin D levels and more severe effects of covid on that cohort. These early studies also show a correlation between high vitamin D levels and much less severe symptoms and better outcomes. There are so many studies at this stage and so many doctors saying this that it is really time to act on it. There are no downsides to taking viaminD.

    I think NPHET believe if they offer advice Vitamin D may help, some people will think they are immune if supplementing with it. Theirs a large enough cohort of people who would be that naïve to believe that.


  • #9564
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Is there a government anouncement on restrictions Tuesday?


  • #9565
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Arduach wrote: »
    Is there a government anouncement on restrictions Tuesday?

    Yes. 4 more weeks.


  • #9566
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Arduach wrote: »
    Is there a government anouncement on restrictions Tuesday?

    Cabinet are meeting then so could be but nothing officially confirmed re announcement yet afaik. But as restrictions will be inevitably extended and Martin has said as much publicly probably no reason to drag it out later than Tuesday. Talk of them being reviewed every 4 weeks after that then


  • #9567
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I think it’s too late now for mandatory quarantine. It’s legally difficult too


  • #9568
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    wadacrack wrote: »
    I think NPHET believe if they offer advice Vitamin D may help, some people will think they are immune if supplementing with it. Theirs a large enough cohort of people who would be that naïve to believe that.


    I understand that a few people may think that way but the message should be to continue social distancing and mask wearing and all the other necessary measures. Vitamin D seems to be really a huge factor in people's ability to survive this virus.


  • #9569
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Gael23 wrote: »
    I think it’s too late now for mandatory quarantine. It’s legally difficult too

    If they want to do it it’s legally easy. Plenty of countries are doing it. As we are in a national emergency there is very little we cannot do.


  • #9570
    lukas8888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    jackboy wrote: »
    If they want to do it it’s legally easy. Plenty of countries are doing it. As we are in a national emergency there is very little we cannot do.

    It may or may not be legally easy, but it would definitely be a logistical nightmare and probably take months to implement.


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  • #9571
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Not sure how 4) works when variants are already in other countries. Isn't there no direct flights from South Africa or Brazil to here either? Seems like a half measure. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1353447968817471492?s=19


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