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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #8762
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    Two people drive up in two cars. He drives one home, you drive the other home with the other person. Not really self isolation if he comes into contact with others.

    Much as I like this...

    This only works if both drivers are the same household /bubble. Otherwise, you're putting two people in close contact from possibly very different social networks.


  • #8763
    berocca2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Much as I like this...

    This only works if both drivers are the same household /bubble. Otherwise, you're putting two people in close contact from possibly very different social networks.

    Agreed, ideally we'd be pulling a Singapore/Australia 6 months ago and be doing the mandatory quarantine hotels but sure potato patato.

    Would stop most of the non essential travelling, not saying the poster's brothers journey is non-essential but you know what I mean.


  • #8764
    fred funk }{
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,834 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    NeuralNetwork wrote: »
    I think commentary like that is best ignored. I am fed up with shock jocks, tabloids, Trumps, Tories and all of that stuff.

    We are in a dire mess and we need to get out of it and it will take serious effort and doing many things that people might consider unthinkable.

    If people can't self-isolate (and the pressures are probably worse in the UK) because of threat of loss of employment or income, then they won't and then this thing keeps spreading and the human and economic costs of that are enormous.

    I'd agree with the post that was made a couple of pages back. I never imagined we would be in a situation as prolonged and as serious as this. The state, and most of our neighbours, have completely failed to get to grips with the spread of this virus.

    I was thinking the other day that if I won the Lotto, what would the point be?

    You can't go anywhere as this virus is everywhere and if you do it will probably be subject to some kind of similar situation to what we are already experiencing here, and the few places that have kept it out are more or less off limits.

    I've had no social life for almost 12 months now. I am at the stage I don't even bother clothes shopping as I mean what's the point? If it's not worn out who am I impressing anymore? I am not in anyway advocating that we throw our arms up in the air or our toys out of the pram and undermine the measures we are taking to try and curb this, but it is becoming extremely difficult, depressing and bleak and I really have lost all tolerance for comments like that.

    We need to pull together. We need to get this thing dealt with. Park your culture wars and your left/right nonsense somewhere else.

    This is going to cost money in a way that we haven't seen spent since WWII. It's a national and international emergency and it just has to be dealt with. Arguing over cash to ensure people can self isolate it ludicrous. We are going to be paying it many, many, many times over if they don't because someone guilts them into not doing so or makes it beyond their means.

    This is the kind of situation where you start to realise the importance of a society and the sheer luck that most of us posting here or ranting in tabloids live in one that has the means to able to do things like provide social protection nets.



    Thank you.


  • #8765
    Klonker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    blindside88 wrote: »
    He only has a provisional license and isn’t insured on anything but that could potentially been an option I hadn’t thought of if we can get him names on something

    He can't drive on a provisional licence. Just go collect him, it's a lot better than him getting public transport. If you could get a copy of his flight details somehow and bring with you incase stopped.


  • #8766
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I agree people who don't care won't be watching it. But even if you listened to the lady who said that her husband just didn't feel right at first. Somebody might listen and might self isolate if they didn't feel right.

    It's a very scary virus, didn't feel too good, and dead three weeks later.

    That poor man had one kidney. It's possible that put him in a compromised position when it came to dealing with Covid.


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  • #8767
    brookers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭brookers


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That poor man had one kidney. It's possible that put him in a compromised position when it came to dealing with Covid.

    Did she say how he might have caught it, he seemed to have been very careful, wearing masks etc.....


  • #8768
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Single PCR doesn't prove anything. He'd need one before travel. Self isolate on arrival. After about 5-7 days get a second PCR here. If undetected all this shows is that he very likely didn't import an infection into the country. Still gotta self isolate for the 14 days regardless.

    It proves they are less likely to have covid than the person collecting them, if you get a PCR after 5 days you don't have to isolate for 10? Days, otherwise after a test before travelling and after it's the traveller would need to be careful from the general public


  • #8769
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    brookers wrote: »
    Did she say how he might have caught it, he seemed to have been very careful, wearing masks etc.....

    I don't know that. I stopped watching it. Yet I here I am on a forum dedicated to all things Covid while at the same time feeling anxious. You couldn't make it up.


  • #8770
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Polar101


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    And the UK wonder why they have it so bad

    And that's why there is travel spread, even if planes might be safe(r).


  • #8771
    berocca2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    It proves they are less likely to have covid than the person collecting them, if you get a PCR after 5 days you don't have to isolate for 10? Days, otherwise after a test before travelling and after it's the traveller would need to be careful from the general public

    You have to way up the inherent risk vs the controls taken to mitigate that risk. Having a negative pcr test 72 hours before flying proves that he didn't have the virus 72 hours before flying.

    Thats one risk mitigated. Theoretically the op should have no close contacts in level 5 lockdown so would have a low inherent risk of having the virus.

    However even though the OPs brother was negative 72 hours before flying, he then has a high inherent risk by flying to Ireland by virtue of having numerous contacts on his journey home so would be more likely than his brother to bring the virus into the country.

    Thats the reason for the self isolation after arrival. This is the control to mitigate the risk from transit.


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  • #8772
    brookers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭brookers


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don't know that. I stopped watching it. Yet I here I am on a forum dedicated to all things Covid while at the same time feeling anxious. You couldn't make it up.

    Im a very normal, rational, sound person, grew up in the country, seen it all, sick animals, dead animals going on the dead cart, went to loads of wakes, seen my father nearly die a few times and eventually watched him die and waked in my home. Have seen a lot of suffering in my own family, have been in so many hospitals with relatives and children over the years. I just got this terrible feeling today that all is not that great with this covid, up to now, I have believed be careful, then the vaccines will roll out and all will be grand. It is like I got a warning or something. I just have this feeling we are not being told everything by the government or Nphet....I dont know perhaps im being silly but just got a weird feeling today.....


  • #8773
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    South Africans and Brazilians arriving as ya know that's all the rage now.

    Top 5 arrivals in the last 12 months

    1) Italian rugby fans
    2) Americans in Kerry
    3) Keelings berry pickers
    4) Coming home for Christmas
    5) Brazilians and South Africans


  • #8774
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Top 5 arrivals in the last 12 months

    1) Italian rugby fans
    2) Americans in Kerry
    3) Keelings berry pickers
    4) Coming home for Christmas
    5) Brazilians and South Africans

    Cheltenham Fans, that deserves a place!!!!


  • #8775
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That poor man had one kidney. It's possible that put him in a compromised position when it came to dealing with Covid.
    Was it the wife of man from Waterford, Nigel Pim?

    Only having one kidney, provided the remaining one was a normally functioning kidney, would not have significantly increased his risk. He would have been carefully screened to check the health of both his kidneys before donation. He would also have been screened for other medical issues including diabetes and high blood pressure before being allowed/accepted as a donor for his father and had at least annual check-ups since. His father who he gave kidney to in 2011 is still alive


  • #8776
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Cheltenham Fans, that deserves a place!!!!

    Coming home from Spanish hols


  • #8777
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,786 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Surely Cheltenham and Italian rugby fans aren't being blamed for this 3rd wave?

    They might have helped make the 1st wave what it was, but they are old news now, the spreading in this wave is in our own actions.


  • #8778
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    You have to way up the inherent risk vs the controls taken to mitigate that risk. Having a negative pcr test 72 hours before flying proves that he didn't have the virus 72 hours before flying.

    Thats one risk mitigated. Theoretically the op should have no close contacts in level 5 lockdown so would have a low inherent risk of having the virus.

    However even though the OPs brother was negative 72 hours before flying, he then has a high inherent risk by flying to Ireland by virtue of having numerous contacts on his journey home so would be more likely than his brother to bring the virus into the country.

    Thats the reason for the self isolation after arrival. This is the control to mitigate the risk from transit.

    Good Post, however if everyone travelling has had a PCR test then I still think the travellers are more at risk from those collecting them


  • #8779
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Sometimes I wake up some mornings and still can't believe the last year happened
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1352777591497904129


  • #8780
    berocca2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Good Post, however if everyone travelling has had a PCR test then I still think the travellers are more at risk from those collecting them

    The control on the general population is level 5 restrictions, if the collector is abiding by all restrictions they have a low inherent and residual risk of having the virus.

    The traveller still has a higher inherent risk by virtue of the high number of close contacts from travelling through an airport and on the airplane despite them being negative before the travel.

    However if the collector is out living his best life throwing caution to the wind its basically the same inherent and residual risk!


  • #8781
    TallyRand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭TallyRand


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Cheltenham Fans, that deserves a place!!!!

    Nah they don’t actually, unfortunately for the doomsdayers. The numbers didn’t “fly up” two weeks after cheltenham like so many hoped.....must have been very disappointing, children being super spreaders was the next “big” story after that....and total bollox too.

    Enjoy the covid porn and finger wagging, been way off the mark so many times though


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  • #8782
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    TallyRand wrote: »
    Nah they don’t actually, unfortunately for the doomsdayers. The numbers didn’t “fly up” two weeks after cheltenham like so many hoped.....must have been very disappointing, children being super spreaders was the next “big” story after that....and total bollox too.

    Enjoy the covid porn and finger wagging, been way off the mark so many times though

    Christ it's sarcasm, picking certain groups to blame for covid spread.


  • #8783
    TallyRand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭TallyRand


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Christ it's sarcasm, picking certain groups to blame for covid spread.

    Fair enough, sadly it isn’t sarcasm for most, people creaming themselves for months on “cheltenham is the worst thing ever” hard to tell the difference these days

    Plenty of people disappointed cheltenham didn’t rocket cases, Defo not racing fans anyways

    People here wanting water canons and the army on the streets!


  • #8784
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    majcos wrote: »
    Was it the wife of man from Waterford, Nigel Pim?

    Only having one kidney, provided the remaining one was a normally functioning kidney, would not have significantly increased his risk. He would have been carefully screened to check the health of both his kidneys before donation. He would also have been screened for other medical issues including diabetes and high blood pressure before being allowed/accepted as a donor for his father and had at least annual check-ups since. His father who he gave kidney to in 2011 is still alive

    Yes that's right.

    I actually haven't a clue majcos. If he had 2 kidneys then he still could have died due to Covid.


  • #8785
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    TallyRand wrote: »
    Fair enough, sadly it isn’t sarcasm for most, people creaming themselves for months on “cheltenham is the worst thing ever” hard to tell the difference these days

    Plenty of people disappointed cheltenham didn’t rocket cases, Defo not racing fans anyways

    People here wanting water canons and the army on the streets!

    I agree, some people just love the doom and the bad news. I don't know why, maybe they just want to watch the world burn?
    Easy to sit on the sidelines when it may not affect them as much as others? I dunno


  • #8786
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    blindside88 wrote: »
    Might not be the right thread for this but I figured those here would know. My brother is due to fly home from in the coming week or two and isn’t terribly keen on taking public transport. Under current restrictions can I legally drive to the airport for the purposes of collecting him? We live about 80km from the airport and he will have a negative pcr test before flying. Any help greatly appreciated as not sure if this would be classed as an essential journey


    If you have a sunroof, put a pile of cushions under him in the passenger seat.
    Or give him a ski mask and make him keep his head out the window like a Labrador, bonus points for tongue lolling about.
    Or just stick him in the boot (Got that idea from Thunderbolt and Lightfoot that I'm watching now)


  • #8787
    Blanco100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    **** going down in China again and wall of secrecy around it. They obviously know so much more than they are letting on.


  • #8788
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    majcos wrote: »
    Was it the wife of man from Waterford, Nigel Pim?

    Only having one kidney, provided the remaining one was a normally functioning kidney, would not have significantly increased his risk. He would have been carefully screened to check the health of both his kidneys before donation. He would also have been screened for other medical issues including diabetes and high blood pressure before being allowed/accepted as a donor for his father and had at least annual check-ups since. His father who he gave kidney to in 2011 is still alive

    Was very healthy, ran and took part in a lot of charity walks etc.


  • #8789
    Blanco100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    I actually blame the Christmas dinner. Offered zero protection whatsoever.

    If I'd thought ahead I'd have charged €7 for it. The chicken nuggets/pizza in the pub provided a blanket protection. Maybe something the government could roll out.


  • #8790
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    berocca2016 wrote: »
    The control on the general population is level 5 restrictions, if the collector is abiding by all restrictions they have a low inherent and residual risk of having the virus.

    The traveller still has a higher inherent risk by virtue of the high number of close contacts from travelling through an airport and on the airplane despite them being negative before the travel.

    However if the collector is out living his best life throwing caution to the wind its basically the same inherent and residual risk!

    So the person collecting is more likely to infect the person they are collecting than the other way around!??!!!


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  • #8791
    46 Long
    Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭46 Long


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    I actually blame the Christmas dinner. Offered zero protection whatsoever.

    If I'd thought ahead I'd have charged €7 for it. The chicken nuggets/pizza in the pub provided a blanket protection. Maybe something the government could roll out.

    Rookie mistake. Everyone knows it's the €9 meal that grants immunity from the plague.


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