Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

Pepp1989 · 21-01-2021 11:11PM

The annoying thing for me is we got the piece of luck we were looking for tonight with Ben Mee messing up.

Divock knocks that in and who knows, lads heads lift.

He fluffed it. Heads drop. Cycle continues.

Ottoman_1000 · 21-01-2021 11:11PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Yea, the leg barnes poked ball with, he moved it down pretty fast and KICKED alisson on the ground.

Would you stop, Alli missed the ball and took him out...its a penalty, if that was taken off us at the other end what would your reaction be?

doc_17 · 21-01-2021 11:11PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

But on Mane it was different eh... played ball out of play too, and was taking down in previous game.
Same with handball, United get one, same exact one tonight not given.

ALways given to thoers, but not to us when it's the same exact incident

I’m not saying Mane shouldn’t have had a penalty though. If you think Mane should have had a penalty then that was a penalty for Burnley. Anyway. That’s that.

The White Wolf · 21-01-2021 11:11PM

Bill Ponderosa wrote: »

Team has been found out, all very predictable.

Still should be there or thereabouts at the end of the season but need to get motoring soon.

I'm glad we got that exceptional 3 season run before they were finally found out.

BoardsMember · 21-01-2021 11:12PM

The White Wolf wrote: »

I think we need less attackers on the pitch at this point. In the first half it was Shaq getting in the way, last 10 minutes it was Minamino.

It's so woefully stiffled and ponderous right now up front. More attacking midfielders with less players up front might be the job. Incisive runners.

Agree with that. Neco for Trent was the right 3rd sub. And Neco should start the next game. How many ****e games in a row does Trent need to have?

The White Wolf · 21-01-2021 11:12PM

awec wrote: »

Less attackers?

Half our attackers are empty shirts at the moment!

There's congestion at the top of the field and it's become far too easy for the opposition in how to set up.

Glico Man · 21-01-2021 11:12PM

Thought Ox was woeful. The last few starts he's had he's done nothing with the chances given.

Worst player on the pitch was easily TAA. Driving me absolutely insane trying that same dinked ball into the box every single match. Defenders will clear it 99.9% of the time.

Looks like the team run out of ideas when in the final third. No quick one-twos to pull the defenders around, just slow like molasses. Especially when teams play two banks of 4 or pack the middle.

~Rebel~ · 21-01-2021 11:13PM

The White Wolf wrote: »

I'm glad we got that exceptional 3 season run before they were finally found out.

Ah yeah, any 'found out' stuff is nonsense. Burnley did nothing tonight that countless teams haven't done over the past few seasons. Liverpool just weren't able to rise to the challenge like they had before.

Tonights hard, because I think we can probably all agree that this is pretty much the end of the title challenge, barring a miracle. Have to reset the expectations for the season, and hope for something in the cups, and getting a top 4 spot nailed down - which still should be in reasonably easy reach.

Muahahaha · 21-01-2021 11:14PM

Fieldog wrote: »

Not sure how we fix this though, decimated with injuries and some players in bits post covid...

What is the answer?

Looking at Klopp on the sidelines even he looks stunned by how bad they're playing. This was supposed to be the game that we got our sh1t together and started scoring again.

Im hoping we're not going to see a slide down the table that happened in Klopps final season at Dortmund. But as it stands tonight Spurs, Everton and West Ham could all leap frog us with a win in their next fixture.

klose · 21-01-2021 11:14PM

This team has given me the most joyous couple of seasons as a fan so I cant really complain too much, we were spoiled for a couple years and a slump was always gonna come. We'll come back into the swing of things sooner rather than later.

Charlie19 · 21-01-2021 11:15PM

Bill Ponderosa wrote: »

Owners need to get the checkbook out.

Bringing in Jota and Thiago should've really bolstered the squad for the current season but failing to bring in a CB has cost us but tbh who would've thought we'd be without Gomez, Virgil and Matip at the same time.

Fromvert · 21-01-2021 11:17PM

What blows my mind more with the constant crosses, there's usually only one or two lads in the box with 4,5,6 defenders. We then have all of our other players camped outside the box.

Cross comes in, defender heads it out, we win it back, pass it sideways to the open FB, cross it again to one or two players in the box. Repeat until the keeper catches it.

mightyreds · 21-01-2021 11:18PM

Still dont understand why he didn't put either of the two young CB's in and move fabinho out midfield, they had 28% possession, I'd tog out myself and stand beside matip for 90 minutes just have to be alert for the one chance they will get.

BorneTobyWilde · 21-01-2021 11:18PM

So weird we were praised after the Palace game, EVERYTHING was rosy. Then that Tree goes up and everything turns to crap. Salah can't score, and everything he touches is cursed.

StringerBell · 21-01-2021 11:19PM

It is only half way through the season, 9/1 on Liverpool not a bad shout at all there folks.

The White Wolf · 21-01-2021 11:19PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Ah yeah, any 'found out' stuff is nonsense. Burnley did nothing tonight that countless teams haven't done over the past few seasons. Liverpool just weren't able to rise to the challenge like they had before.

Tonights hard, because I think we can probably all agree that this is pretty much the end of the title challenge, barring a miracle. Have to reset the expectations for the season, and hope for something in the cups, and getting a top 4 spot nailed down - which still should be in reasonably easy reach.

I don't think we're down and out yet but Klopp needs to start experimenting with his set up now. It was painful watching them toil yet again either trying to find the elusive ball through a wall of players, or twist/turn their way through a defence.

theoneeyedman · 21-01-2021 11:19PM

klose wrote: »

This team has given me the most joyous couple of seasons as a fan so I cant really complain too much, we were spoiled for a couple years and a slump was always gonna come. We'll come back into the swing of things sooner rather than later.

This. I'm gonna log out of Boards for the night, but I echo the post above.

I trust Klopp and the team to reset and go again. The League is likely gone, but we'll still capture top 4 at least, maybe even second, and who knows, maybe the lad with the really big ears will come back for visit#7.

BorneTobyWilde · 21-01-2021 11:19PM

klose wrote: »

This team has given me the most joyous couple of seasons as a fan so I cant really complain too much, we were spoiled for a couple years and a slump was always gonna come. We'll come back into the swing of things sooner rather than later.

So we're not back, ,,,,,,,,,, we're Leicester ?/

Ottoman_1000 · 21-01-2021 11:19PM

Carragher making the point I was talking about during the week. The core of this team are going into their 3/4th year together!!! The team has virtually been unchanged in the last 3 years....its needs a shaking up!! Impossible to stay so consistent for so long with the same group. Klopp needs a big summer and he has to be backed.!!!

~Rebel~ · 21-01-2021 11:21PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Looking at Klopp on the sidelines even he looks stunned by how bad they're playing. This was supposed to be the game that we got our sh1t together and started scoring again.

Im hoping we're not going to see a slide down the table that happened in Klopps final season at Dortmund. But as it stands tonight Spurs, Everton and West Ham could all leap frog us with a win in their next fixture.

Theirs was the opposite - started awful, down in the relegation zone at the halfway point, and then fought their way back up to European qualification by seasons end.

I've no doubt he'll manage to arrest the slump and stumble into 3rd or 4th, but the damage is already done for the season.

McFly85 · 21-01-2021 11:21PM

mightyreds wrote: »

Still dont understand why he didn't put either of the two young CB's in and move fabinho out midfield, they had 28% possession, I'd tog out myself and stand beside matip for 90 minutes just have to be alert for the one chance they will get.

I was thinking this too. We may have an increased risk of conceding but at this stage we should be looking to get ourselves scoring again.

awec · 21-01-2021 11:22PM

StringerBell wrote: »

It is only half way through the season, 9/1 on Liverpool not a bad shout at all there folks.

I think this would be a valid point if tonight was a blip, but our form is rotten and showing no sign of improving. 4 wins in 11. 3 draws and 2 losses in the last 5. No goals in nearly 500 minutes. Fixture list in the next few weeks is more difficult than the games we just played.

Our goose is cooked for 20/21.

doc_17 · 21-01-2021 11:23PM

We are paying the price as well for not strengthening in the summer.

BorneTobyWilde · 21-01-2021 11:23PM

Ottoman_1000 wrote: »

Carragher making the point I was talking about during the week. The core of this team are going into their 3/4th year together!!! The team has virtually been unchanged in the last 3 years....its needs a shaking up!! Impossible to stay so consistent for so long with the same group. Klopp needs a big summer and he has to be backed.!!!

That is A silly myth. We have added recently in , JOTA, THIAGO, JONES,

klose · 21-01-2021 11:24PM

doc_17 wrote: »

We are paying the price as well for not strengthening in the summer.

????

FixdePitchmark · 21-01-2021 11:25PM

Klopp talking a good bit of **** there.

Talking as if nothing wrong.

CSWS101 · 21-01-2021 11:26PM

StringerBell wrote: »

It is only half way through the season, 9/1 on Liverpool not a bad shout at all there folks.

Depends if you like to lose money. No way we win the league, we will get over the slump and should get top 4 but league is dust

~Rebel~ · 21-01-2021 11:26PM

Interesting post match interview, taking the blame in a sense, while still pointing out what went wrong. Saying that when games like this happen it has to be because he didn't make things clear enough for what they should do and how they should play. Particularly sticking to the point of decision making, and the crossing. Also referenced players making movements after the ball has been played in instead of before, to encourage the right ball.

Ardent · 21-01-2021 11:29PM

Carrying too many passengers at the moment.

Salah is so one-footed and so one-dimensional lately - I feel like he has been figured out.

Mane looks like he has forgotten how to play football.

Firminho looks like he's done.

TAA shouldn't be allowed on the pitch on current form.

Problems, problems.

razorblunt · 21-01-2021 11:30PM

Charlie19 wrote: »

Bringing in Jota and Thiago should've really bolstered the squad for the current season but failing to bring in a CB has cost us but tbh who would've thought we'd be without Gomez, Virgil and Matip at the same time.

What annoys me about that is, at the time everyone was saying we can’t sign a CB that’s happy being 3rd (or 4th choice behind Matip) when they should have been signing someone that would push to be a starter. Gomez was awful when the season started and before that he went through a bad spell but came back well.

Now or the summer is when 2CBs are needed as there’s no guarantee VVD or Gomez will come back 100%. The younger lads don’t look like they’ve got it either.
Williams was deemed sufficient back up for TAA and he can’t get in with TAA is putting in performances that would see you dropped from a Sunday league team.

As well as new players now there’s also the need to cut the deadwood too.

Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

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