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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #7712
    cjyid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭cjyid


    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1351901303467896832?s=20


  • #7713
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    I really feel sorry for those in the hospitality sector, so much uncertainty.

    There are weddings booked in for early summer where people thought they would be safe, but now are looking to re-book due to uncertainty.

    Realistically, where do people think we will be at when it comes to numbers at weddings come June? Initially I would have said 100, now I think it could be 50 but it could still be as low as 25. There is such a massive difference for the hospitality sector in terms of a wedding with 100 in attendance as opposed to 25 in attendance.

    It's really hard to tell at this stage. I was meant to be going to weddings in April and May but say could still be 25 until then.

    If cases are down and hospitality open maybe they could push it out to 50/100 in June maybe. Must be a nightmare for venues and couples getting married to plan.


  • #7714
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    quokula wrote: »
    Well it's certainly shown that some of are idiots, like those who think scientists should have been able to predict everything in advance before they had any evidence, and the fact that they didn't equates them with conspiracy theory pushing lunatics.

    On the other hand, we've managed to produce and begin distributing a vaccine in record time using new technology that will advance medical science in other ways in the future, we've managed to reconfigure our societies to keep infection and death rates far, far lower than they otherwise would have been, we've done that with some harm to our economy but nothing remotely close to the complete collapse that many predicted (remember when some people were stockpiling food because they were expecting society to collapse?), and the vast majority of us are able to continue leading fulfilling lives, albeit with certain necessary curtailments for the moment, despite a pandemic that was unprecedented in any of our lifetimes.
    I think a lot of qualified people including myself were guided a little by what happened with SARS in China, that ultimately led to a quicker acceptance of the risks reported from there about the virus. The SARS epidemic acted in a very different way, considering the underappreciated risk of aerosolised transmission that was found among the highest levels of scientific expertise earlier in 2020.


  • #7715
    Kunta Kinte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Kunta Kinte


    Eod100 wrote: »
    In unsurprising news, restrictions to be extended until late February apparently.

    The hospitality sector may not reopen properly until late May or early June.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-government-set-to-extend-level-5-restrictions-to-late-february-1.4463199

    And will most likely be further extended until at least Easter with maybe construction and schools reopening earlier than that.


  • #7716
    Hooter23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Rte are great at reporting virus deaths but strangely enough do not even mention Vaccine deaths 55 deaths so far in america 29 in Norway...if "truth matters" as Rte says it does then why aren't they reporting it

    Strange how the media always report negative news yet when it comes to the vaccine its all positive...do the vaccine deaths and people left crippled by it not matter


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  • #7717
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The usual Wednesday bump evident

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1351901303467896832?s=19


  • #7718
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Rte are great at reporting virus deaths but strangely enough do not even mention Vaccine deaths 55 deaths so far in america 29 in Norway...if "truth matters" as Rte says it does then why aren't they reporting it

    Strange how the media always report negative news yet when it comes to the vaccine its all positive...do the vaccine deaths and people left crippled by it not matter

    How many million have been vaxxed in USA?

    Are the vaccines 100% effective?

    Edit. RTE did have a report on the Norway deaths days ago.


  • #7719
    xabi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭xabi


    Hooter23 wrote: »
    Rte are great at reporting virus deaths but strangely enough do not even mention Vaccine deaths 55 deaths so far in america 29 in Norway...if "truth matters" as Rte says it does then why aren't they reporting it

    Strange how the media always report negative news yet when it comes to the vaccine its all positive...do the vaccine deaths and people left crippled by it not matter

    Have those deaths been directly attributed to the vaccine?


  • #7720
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    In unsurprising news, restrictions to be extended until late February apparently.

    The hospitality sector may not reopen properly until late May or early June.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-government-set-to-extend-level-5-restrictions-to-late-february-1.4463199

    Not surprising alright

    May or June means after the June Bank Holiday no doubt


  • #7721
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    The usual Wednesday bump evident

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1351901303467896832?s=19

    Sadly yes

    Lot more tests today than yesterday but sadly cases not falling as fast as we need


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  • #7722
    pauldry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭pauldry


    And positivity seems to be up and thats not positive


  • #7723
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    pauldry wrote: »
    And positivity seems to be up and thats not positive

    The trend is down, positivity and swabs always go up on a Wednesday.


  • #7724
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Sadly yes

    Lot more tests today than yesterday but sadly cases not falling as fast as we need
    Don't be frettin'

    Cases over the last 7 days are down by just over a third on the previous 7.

    They are still coming down about as fast as could be reasonably expected. R0 at 0.5 or slightly less.


  • #7725
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    A lot of the regular tests that are done are routine in health care or residential settings.

    On Wednesday we tend to get a backlog of symptomatic cases from GP referrals on Monday, Tuesday, probably from people reporting symptoms over the weekend.


  • #7726
    greenheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭greenheep


    Eod100 wrote: »
    In unsurprising news, restrictions to be extended until late February apparently.

    The hospitality sector may not reopen properly until late May or early June.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-government-set-to-extend-level-5-restrictions-to-late-february-1.4463199

    Very depressing, feels more and more like 2021 is going to be another write off


  • #7727
    eigrod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭eigrod


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Sadly yes

    Lot more tests today than yesterday but sadly cases not falling as fast as we need

    Positivity rate was 16.35% last Wednesday, 24.19% the previous Wednesday. It’s 11.49% today. Not bad progress at all. If it falls by another 5% next Wednesday, we’ll be doing well. No guarantees of course.


  • #7728
    vienne86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    The trend is down, positivity and swabs always go up on a Wednesday.

    This day last week we had over 1100 more positive swabs and positivity rate was 16% comared with 11.5% today. I'd love to see faster progress, but progress it is.

    I'm beginning to hate Wednesdays!


  • #7729
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    greenheep wrote: »
    Very depressing, feels more and more like 2021 is going to be another write off

    Ah I wouldn't say that. At least as time goes on more people will be vaccinated and more vaccines will have been approved and distributed so there's light at the end of the tunnel. Hoping for a better 2nd half of the year anyways!


  • #7730
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    greenheep wrote: »
    Very depressing, feels more and more like 2021 is going to be another write off

    Yep, this year will be worse than last as far as I'm concerned. At least in 2020 we had a couple of months of normality before it all started.

    Flattening the curve as a concept disappeared a long time ago as far as I can see, given the majority of people ending up in hospitals are old / have underlying conditions / or both, it's beyond me why we would need much restrictions come Spring but all the indications are we will.

    Restriction fatigue has kicked in majorly, nothing like staring at the four walls in deepest darkest January to put you in good form :D

    Come back 2020, all is forgiven.


  • #7731
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Not surprising alright

    May or June means after the June Bank Holiday no doubt

    Maybe after the August one or maybe next Christmas while we are at it. They will have to open up sooner. Can't keep the country shut down for 4 months.


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  • #7732
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Ah I wouldn't say that. At least as time goes on more people will be vaccinated and more vaccines will have been approved and distributed so there's light at the end of the tunnel. Hoping for a better 2nd half of the year anyways!


    Once its not a train coming :p


  • #7733
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    MattS1 wrote: »
    Maybe after the August one or maybe next Christmas while we are at it. They will have to open up sooner. Can't keep the country shut down for 4 months.

    Hospitality is not the economy.

    Given what happened in December I think/hope they'll be very cautious with reopening that sector. There is the seemingly unexplored compromise of outdoor dining/drinking which might make some businesses viable before the summer.


  • #7734
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    It was a given they'd delay any kind of reopening as much as possible after the disastrous opening in December.



    Feeling really bloody bleak though, the idea of not seeing the person I'm dating or my friends or family for another month or more, along with probably losing my job entirely if my sector (hospitality) stays takeout only til bloody June is upsetting tbh


  • #7735
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    MattS1 wrote: »
    Maybe after the August one or maybe next Christmas while we are at it. They will have to open up sooner. Can't keep the country shut down for 4 months.

    They'll come under serious pressure before then but no way in hell Tony and NPHET will want anything open before a Bank Holiday

    It does give society nothing to look forward to or aim towards after months of sacrifice


  • #7736
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    We don't want to be leveling off at these numbers.

    And people are doing what they can in fairness.

    I wish I had the answer.


  • #7737
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    seamus wrote: »
    Don't be frettin'

    Cases over the last 7 days are down by just over a third on the previous 7.

    They are still coming down about as fast as could be reasonably expected. R0 at 0.5 or slightly less.

    You're entirely correct I think.

    However, 2,791 swabs will mean 2,500 cases give or take.
    In the last 14 days the median/mean age of cases has been rising steadily, and the percentage of cases being hospitalised has nearly doubled as a result.

    4.17% of cases were hospitalised in the last 14 days. If that holds, then we're looking at about 104 hospitalisations from today's cases alone.

    So in short, things are rapidly improving case-wise, but the progress on the hospital front is much slower.


  • #7738
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    It was a given they'd delay any kind of reopening as much as possible after the disastrous opening in December.



    Feeling really bloody bleak though, the idea of not seeing the person I'm dating or my friends or family for another month or more, along with probably losing my job entirely if my sector (hospitality) stays takeout only til bloody June is upsetting tbh

    The whole bloody thing sucks mo chara, it really does. :(


  • #7739
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    They'll come under serious pressure before then but no way in hell Tony and NPHET will want anything open before a Bank Holiday

    It does give society nothing to look forward to or aim towards after months of sacrifice

    Society should have sacraficed a bit more over Christmas.

    Society instead chose that sacrafices buy party's and stupidity. Society's decisions will be listened to and restrictions won't be eased for big events.

    A cold decision should be made based on case numbers and hospitalisation numbers and rates.


  • #7740
    adam240610
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭adam240610


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    It was a given they'd delay any kind of reopening as much as possible after the disastrous opening in December.



    Feeling really bloody bleak though, the idea of not seeing the person I'm dating or my friends or family for another month or more, along with probably losing my job entirely if my sector (hospitality) stays takeout only til bloody June is upsetting tbh


    Haven't seen 90% of my friends in college since a college event last March... Looks like we won't see eachother until after this semester too


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  • #7741
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    MattS1 wrote: »
    Maybe after the August one or maybe next Christmas while we are at it. They will have to open up sooner. Can't keep the country shut down for 4 months.

    you can stop intercounty travel for a very long time
    same with restaurants and bars


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