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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #7652
    quokula
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭quokula


    Thundercats Ho wrote: »
    One of the ladies in our office lives with her parents and her elderly grandparents.
    She's the only one who leaves the house for work.
    She asked if she could work from home as she's very worried about bringing covid back to her parents / grandparents.
    She was flat out denied, and told if she wanted to stay at home she could go on the PUP.
    My jaw hit the floor when i heard it as the 3 fellas that made the decision are all family men, so you'd imagine they'd understand that family comes first.

    Needless to say for her, and a few other there, their 1st priority is getting through the pandemic as safely as possible.
    2nd priority is to change job as soon as jobs become available.

    She could easily work from home btw, and did so for a couple of months, mid March to late May last year.

    There really should be a process or legal route to hold employers who do this to account, the same as if they tried to force someone to work through maternity leave or whatever.


  • #7653
    Golfman64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Golfman64


    https://www.thejournal.ie/how-many-countries-is-uk-strain-of-covid-19-in-5329965-Jan2021/

    The media never cease to amaze me. More gutter journalism. The article references the fact that ‘Mass inoculation had brought hope that the end of the pandemic was in sight....’ written as if there is now less or no hope.

    As far as I am aware, it is widely expected that mass inoculation will bring the pandemic under control and eventually to an end despite these new strains. All evidence suggests that current vaccines remain effective and in any case, if needed in the future, they can be tweaked to deal with a new strain which did make a current vaccine less effective.

    Pure scaremongering as always. Rant over!


  • #7654
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,622 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    The Journal have really dropped in quality over the last while, if their reporters or editors get called out they go on a smear campaign of their critics.


  • #7655
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Vicxas wrote: »
    The Journal have really dropped in quality over the last while, if their reporters or editors get called out they go on a smear campaign of their critics.

    It was always low quality click bait


  • #7656
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Amazing how much higher ICU capacity is in some countries compared to here. Czechia and Israel only have double Ireland's population but have had well over 1000 in ICU for weeks straight now without healthcare systems suffering deaths from lack of ICU treatment as far as I know. Lebanon 700 in ICU population 6.8 million. Israel 1150 COVID patients in ICU with a population of 9.2 million. Seriously impressive capacity

    I wonder is there an international standard for ICU bed? One thing we don’t do here is put things in place and claim they are something they are not. I’ve been in countries that claim to have a world beating motorway system and then you drive on them and they are brutal quality. When a motorway is built here it costs much more but is of a high standard.
    ICU beds are so much more than a trip to Mattress Mick’s- it’s the infrastructure and staff.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



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  • #7657
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Vicxas wrote: »
    The Journal have really dropped in quality over the last while, if their reporters or editors get called out they go on a smear campaign of their critics.

    That's an AFP article, and it's not particularly alarmist

    It's correct


  • #7658
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Vicxas wrote: »
    The Journal have really dropped in quality over the last while, if their reporters or editors get called out they go on a smear campaign of their critics.

    not written by the journal
    quotes the WHO
    sticks to fact rather than opinion

    so literally none of what you have said is occurring in that article

    Journal are fine in the most part,

    even if the ivory coast patriot types think they're all 'fake news' as they fact checked their BS and didnt stop when they engaged in active intimidation


  • #7659
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭brevity


    https://twitter.com/friedberg/status/1351789902065590273?s=20


  • #7660
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Is anyone else starting to look back fondly on the old strain?

    Sure it wasn't perfect, but compared to these new strains it was sound. I think we were all too harsh on it.


  • #7661
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Blood hell went back to the very 1st thread on this sh1te and I posted for the first time on the 23rd January 2020, unreal to think just about a year later here we are. Really is mind blowing!


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  • #7662
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Is anyone else starting to look back fondly on the old strain?

    Sure it wasn't perfect, but compared to these new strains it was sound. I think we were all too harsh on it.

    you knew where you were with it... it was honest


  • #7663
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Yeah, Covid-19, I preferred their earlier stuff tbh.


  • #7664
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Is anyone else starting to look back fondly on the old strain?

    :)

    An ordinary, honest and decent virus.


  • #7665
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    RTE says St.Patricks Day is cancelled.

    Im sure we all expected that anyway.


  • #7666
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    brevity wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/friedberg/status/1351789902065590273?s=20

    ‘Almost a new virus’

    So are we or will we soon be dealing with Covid 21?

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #7667
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »
    RTE says St.Patricks Day is cancelled.

    Im sure we all expected that anyway.

    Which year - 2021 or 2022?


  • #7668
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    brevity wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/friedberg/status/1351789902065590273?s=20

    who's he?

    someone worth listening to or another sh!t stirrer seeking impressions...


  • #7669
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    brevity wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/friedberg/status/1351789902065590273?s=20

    That's pure scaremongering. The South African and Brazilian variants showed notably reduced neutralization in monoclonal antibodies. In polyclonal antibodies the effect was only modest but significant. Antibodies are only one component of vaccine induced immunity against the virus. There is recent evidence to show that your Memory B cells continue to mature after infection and are equipped to deal with variants.

    Long story short the vaccines may show mildly reduced efficacy. They will probably need to be updated in the medium to long term but for the moment at least they will work just fine.


  • #7670
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Is anyone else starting to look back fondly on the old strain?

    Sure it wasn't perfect, but compared to these new strains it was sound. I think we were all too harsh on it.

    Maybe there was method to the madness of everyone getting infected with the old strain before new year.


  • #7671
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    brevity wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/friedberg/status/1351789902065590273?s=20

    This is entire tweet is pure doomongering.



    FFS. What an irresponsible tweet.


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  • #7672
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,622 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    This is entire article is pure doomongering.



    FFS. What an irresponsible article.

    People trying to make a name for themselves.


  • #7673
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    This is entire article is pure doomongering.



    FFS. What an irresponsible article.
    Look at the guy's website.

    All buzzwords, but says absolutely nothing. Meaningless nonsense about "building a better earth", but no indication about what, if anything, his company actually does.

    He's a total spoofer. A paddy cosgrave type.


  • #7674
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭brevity


    The original article is here:

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.18.427166v1

    And another thread going into A LOT more detail.

    https://twitter.com/ncholiA/status/1347555534510157829?s=20

    I think the guy I originally quoted is being a bit sensationalist.


  • #7675
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1351842189337391114?s=19


  • #7676
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    This is entire article is pure doomongering.

    FFS. What an irresponsible article.

    It is not an article :confused:

    It is this guy providing the main points from a recent study. He links
    to it in the tweets.

    He finishes his talking points by saying.
    And all this said, I'll be getting the vaccine as soon as I'm able. We have an amazing vaccine now that works against currently circulating viruses. And if it becomes necessary, this emerging situation can be dealt with through a forthcoming vaccine update.


  • #7677
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1351842189337391114?s=19

    We will have people on shortly somehow linking this to Tony Holohans supposed crusade against the drinks industry


  • #7678
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1351842189337391114?s=19

    Pretty much the plans for here I'd have thought?


  • #7679
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Gemma O'Doherty in court appealing the dismissing of her challenging of covid restrictions. Peddling her vile views. https://twitter.com/Orlaodo/status/1351853553082658817?s=19


  • #7680
    techdiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Thundercats Ho wrote: »
    One of the ladies in our office lives with her parents and her elderly grandparents.
    She's the only one who leaves the house for work.
    She asked if she could work from home as she's very worried about bringing covid back to her parents / grandparents.
    She was flat out denied, and told if she wanted to stay at home she could go on the PUP.
    My jaw hit the floor when i heard it as the 3 fellas that made the decision are all family men, so you'd imagine they'd understand that family comes first.

    Needless to say for her, and a few other there, their 1st priority is getting through the pandemic as safely as possible.
    2nd priority is to change job as soon as jobs become available.

    She could easily work from home btw, and did so for a couple of months, mid March to late May last year.

    I know you won't name the company (nor would I expect you to), but places like this should be exposed for the way they treat employees.

    This makes my blood boil. That is criminal negligence and also copperfastens my opinion that the softy softy approach by government towards businesses who don't allow people to work from home at the moment is not working. There should be a mandated closure of all offices at this point. They have had 10 month to get proper structures in place for remote working and it's on them if they haven't at this stage. You can be permitted a couple of staff members to come in to keep infrastructure going etc, but even this should require full time presence.


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  • #7681
    Purple Papillon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36 ✭Purple Papillon


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Gemma O'Doherty in court appealing the dismissing of her challenging of covid restrictions. Peddling her vile views. https://twitter.com/Orlaodo/status/1351853553082658817?s=19

    Is Orla O donnel a news reporter and is she reporting from court? Did Gemma O Doherty really come out with that line - 'people who died of covid had underlying conditions and were going to die anyways'. Its hard to see if a judge entertaining that nonsense. A judge would want to see some evidence if what's she's saying is true. She has little sense to be all stroppy in court.

    Edit to add: I'm familiar with Orla now. She's a rte reporter.


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