BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

colm_mcm · 17-01-2021 08:33PM

The 1.6 makes a nice car of them, but Toyota Ireland in their wisdom only sold the Terra spec on them.
It’s too rough to bother with, but I’m sure it would be a reliable hack if you didn’t care.
Might make sense at 500

Rows Grower · 17-01-2021 08:41PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

The 1.6 makes a nice car of them, but Toyota Ireland in their wisdom only sold the Terra spec on them.
It’s too rough to bother with, but I’m sure it would be a reliable hack if you didn’t care.
Might make sense at 500

I was trying to ring him just there to offer exactly that but he didn't answer. It's about what it's worth. Be a handy yoke to have as a spare runaround.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 17-01-2021 08:48PM

Service book that spans several years all done with the same red pen doesn't exactly look trustworthy to me.

The body on that looks like it's done 300,000 miles. It's wrecked.

Rows Grower · 17-01-2021 08:52PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Service book that spans several years all done with the same red pen doesn't exactly look trustworthy to me.

Don't know what you're looking at but I see blue and black biro as well.

Plus he has a nearly new wheelie walking frame yoke for sale as well so it kind of adds credence to the validity of the sale.

Duke O Smiley · 17-01-2021 08:57PM

Its an awful pity about the state of the bodywork, I'd say its a well maintained car otherwise - just bumped from pillar to post on the owner's weekly spin to mass/the shops etc. Continental tyres are a good sign too, especially on something of that age and calibre.

elperello · 17-01-2021 09:01PM

One owner from a good neighbourhood.

Definitely value to be had there.

Duke O Smiley · 17-01-2021 09:01PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Service book that spans several years all done with the same red pen doesn't exactly look trustworthy to me.

The body on that looks like it's done 300,000 miles. It's wrecked.

Pretty much every properly or comprehensively filled in service book I've ever seen has been done in the same colour pen.

Nothing too suspicious about the idea of a garage having a box of 100 Bic ballpoint pens for this very menial task, surely?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 17-01-2021 09:14PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Pretty much every properly or comprehensively filled in service book I've ever seen has been done in the same colour pen.

Nothing too suspicious about the idea of a garage having a box of 100 Bic ballpoint pens for this very menial task, surely?

But red?

kirving · 17-01-2021 09:56PM

I filled out my own book (honestly!) and purposely used different pens because I knew it looked dodgy enough as it was, nevermind using the same colour each time!

KevRossi · 17-01-2021 11:50PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Service book that spans several years all done with the same red pen doesn't exactly look trustworthy to me.

The body on that looks like it's done 300,000 miles. It's wrecked.

Same stamp, no wear on it. Same handwriting on it, same pen. Chances are it was all done at once. Black pen stops in 2006.

OK. Buy the Corolla 1.6 estate for €800. Tax for 2 x 6 months = €600, NCT and a couple of repairs = €200. That's €1,600 minus what you get for it in 12 months (€600).

So it cost €1,000 to run for a year for tax, depreciation and parts, not including insurance.

If you're over 30 and have 10 years NCB the insurance difference is negligible. If you're hitting 50, there's a good chance the Merc below is a good bit cheaper.

A couple of pages ago I posted an E270 CDi estate with Auto for €1,995. It has €550 tax on it, meaning it can be got for €1300 in the real world, but lets say you pay €1800.
Tax it in June for €700 for 6 months. NCT in Nov with €200 of parts. Insurance is the same, give or take. If you drive 10,000 km a year, you'll pay €200 less for fuel. You'll sell it easily for €1600 next Jan with a newish NCT.

Meaning it will have cost €1,100 a year to run with tax, depreciation and parts, (not including insurance for 12 months). But a saving of €200 in fuel over the Corolla, meaning it costs about €100 a year less to run. Or €900 for the Merc v €1,000 for the Corolla.

Of course there's the chance that a major outlay is needed for brakes, gearbox, suspension, cooling etc. but there isn't much difference in price for parts online and labour from an Indy.

But essentially the Merc is the same cost to run over 12 months in real terms as the Corolla. And we all know which is the nicer place to sit in for those 12 months and 10,000 km. And that's not including the small satisfaction you get when you get up in the morning and see a classy E-Class estate parked in the drive against a somewhat battered Corolla estate.

Prove me wrong.

Rows Grower · 18-01-2021 12:02AM

KevRossi wrote: »

Same stamp, no wear on it. Same handwriting on it, same pen. Chances are it was all done at once. Black pen stops in 2006.

OK. Buy the Corolla 1.6 estate for €800. Tax for 2 x 6 months = €600, NCT and a couple of repairs = €200. That's €1,600 minus what you get for it in 12 months (€600).

So it cost €1,000 to run for a year for tax, depreciation and parts, not including insurance.

If you're over 30 and have 10 years NCB the insurance difference is negligible. If you're hitting 50, there's a good chance the Merc below is a good bit cheaper.

A couple of pages ago I posted an E270 CDi estate with Auto for €1,995. It has €550 tax on it, meaning it can be got for €1300 in the real world, but lets say you pay €1800.
Tax it in June for €700 for 6 months. NCT in Nov with €200 of parts. Insurance is the same, give or take. If you drive 10,000 km a year, you'll pay €200 less for fuel. You'll sell it easily for €1600 next Jan with a newish NCT.

Meaning it will have cost €1,100 a year to run with tax, depreciation and parts, (not including insurance for 12 months). But a saving of €200 in fuel over the Corolla, meaning it costs about €100 a year less to run. Or €900 for the Merc v €1,000 for the Corolla.

Of course there's the chance that a major outlay is needed for brakes, gearbox, suspension, cooling etc. but there isn't much difference in price for parts online and labour from an Indy.

But essentially the Merc is the same cost to run over 12 months in real terms as the Corolla. And we all know which is the nicer place to sit in for those 12 months and 10,000 km. And that's not including the small satisfaction you get when you get up in the morning and see a classy E-Class estate parked in the drive against a somewhat battered Corolla estate.

Prove me wrong.

You feeling alright?

Did someone upset you?

Dr Bolouswki · 18-01-2021 12:22AM

I thought it was nice little breakdown. No pun intended.

the_syco · 18-01-2021 02:39AM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Short on test and more hits than the Beatles, is it worth €950?

Hasn't seen a service in over 4 years & lots of visible rust. Nope.
Also, lack of dash would make me wonder what warning lights show.

€950 + how much in repairs? Would rather spend an extra €500 on a car that doesn't have as many red flags.

Duke O Smiley · 18-01-2021 03:53AM

KevRossi wrote: »

Same stamp, no wear on it. Same handwriting on it, same pen. Chances are it was all done at once. Black pen stops in 2006.

OK. Buy the Corolla 1.6 estate for €800. Tax for 2 x 6 months = €600, NCT and a couple of repairs = €200. That's €1,600 minus what you get for it in 12 months (€600).

So it cost €1,000 to run for a year for tax, depreciation and parts, not including insurance.

If you're over 30 and have 10 years NCB the insurance difference is negligible. If you're hitting 50, there's a good chance the Merc below is a good bit cheaper.

A couple of pages ago I posted an E270 CDi estate with Auto for €1,995. It has €550 tax on it, meaning it can be got for €1300 in the real world, but lets say you pay €1800.
Tax it in June for €700 for 6 months. NCT in Nov with €200 of parts. Insurance is the same, give or take. If you drive 10,000 km a year, you'll pay €200 less for fuel. You'll sell it easily for €1600 next Jan with a newish NCT.

Meaning it will have cost €1,100 a year to run with tax, depreciation and parts, (not including insurance for 12 months). But a saving of €200 in fuel over the Corolla, meaning it costs about €100 a year less to run. Or €900 for the Merc v €1,000 for the Corolla.

Of course there's the chance that a major outlay is needed for brakes, gearbox, suspension, cooling etc. but there isn't much difference in price for parts online and labour from an Indy.

But essentially the Merc is the same cost to run over 12 months in real terms as the Corolla. And we all know which is the nicer place to sit in for those 12 months and 10,000 km. And that's not including the small satisfaction you get when you get up in the morning and see a classy E-Class estate parked in the drive against a somewhat battered Corolla estate.

Prove me wrong.

The Merc is seriously lovely, but it’s got 250k miles on the clock. I’m not one who gives any real consideration at all to the mileage on a car, especially in bangernomics parameters (but I do like a nice low miler as above), but a high mileage w211 would be cause for some caution to my mind. I agree that there are definitely much nicer options out there than the Corolla for the same money, but I don’t think that is one of them. I think a budget of €200 on repairs is a bit optimistic, you’d spend that on two tyres alone.

Midnight_EG · 18-01-2021 11:54AM

I'd give it a punt https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/12-renault-fluence-1-5-diesel-nct-5-22/27003297

User1998 · 18-01-2021 01:43PM

Gone already

Oops! · 18-01-2021 01:52PM

What was it?

Midnight_EG · 18-01-2021 01:56PM

Oops! wrote: »

What was it?

2012 Fluence with a years test and a years tax for €1850

soups05 · 18-01-2021 03:26PM

Thought i would throw this in here, son's car. 06 fiesta, nct till sept, offering it to boardies at €950

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-tax-nct-bluetooth-radio/26994338?campaign=3

Duke O Smiley · 18-01-2021 04:46PM

Nice bit of tax on it too.

KevRossi · 18-01-2021 05:49PM

No time like the present to buy a Cabrio.

2003 A4 1.8t, Manual. Leather and A/C. Nice colours. Claimed new belt.
New NCT from last week to 12/21. €1,450

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-cabrio-coupe-new-nct-22/26997233

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KevRossi · 18-01-2021 05:53PM

Or if you prefer the 3.0 V6 there's this with and NCT to March for €2,150. Nice colour combo too. NCT done in September and little mileage since so should be worth a risk. Heavy tax though.

Down from €2,450, so proving difficult to shift. Would be handy if you had a second gaff in Spain.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2003-audi-a4-convertible-3-0-v6-petrol-new-nct/26109135

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nsnoefc1878 · 18-01-2021 10:37PM

Bangernomics update - bought an 05 corolla 1.4 hatch in December 2018, 1400 from a dealership, originally posted on here.
Passed nct today, so has another years stay of execution. Have spent between 700-800 between standard yearly services, and rear brake caliper sand disc, hand brake kit, ball joint at the front offside, driver door check strap and a few other small bits.
Drives well and feels nice and tight on the road. Filthy most of the time thanks to two messy dogs but that's not the cars fault!
Should be good to go for another 12 months of just putting petrol in and go.
Happy days, for a cheap hack I'd definitely go this route again and recommend it to anyone.

Toyotafanboi · 18-01-2021 10:51PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-hyundai-trajet-dsl-aircon-5dr/26950729

Not a very cool car but it looks nice and clean inside and out for what it is. New NCT and one owner from new. Asking €900, open to offers.

the_syco · 18-01-2021 11:00PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-hyundai-trajet-dsl-aircon-5dr/26950729

Not a very cool car but it looks nice and clean inside and out for what it is. New NCT and one owner from new. Asking €900, open to offers.

Picture #3, just in front of the wheel; is that a load of rust?

Duke O Smiley · 18-01-2021 11:01PM

Decent 7 seaters are really not easy to come across with a bangernomics budget. That looks very good for the money

Duke O Smiley · 18-01-2021 11:05PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-honda-crv-2-2diesel-4-wheel-drive-high-spec/26893638

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Well spec'd diesel CRV with NCT til November, 1 previous owner, reasonable miles, €1995

Tax is a real killer on these but if you can justify it this could be a nice buy

CoBo55 · 18-01-2021 11:08PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-hyundai-trajet-dsl-aircon-5dr/26950729

Not a very cool car but it looks nice and clean inside and out for what it is. New NCT and one owner from new. Asking €900, open to offers.

Local guy had one as a Taxi, absolute ball of shoite, it broke his heart and wallet. They aren't called the Hyundai tragic for nothing.

Duke O Smiley · 18-01-2021 11:09PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-hyundai-sonata-lgp-conversion/27012608

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Sonata on LPG with new NCT til September, €650

Could be a decent old smoker for a while. I like these

CoBo55 · 18-01-2021 11:12PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-hyundai-sonata-lgp-conversion/27012608

Sonata on LPG with new NCT til September, €650

Could be a decent old smoker for a while. I like these

€650!! Grand yoke for that money, love lpg.

BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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