Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

SheepsClothing · 18-01-2021 03:59PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

this is not true at all.

UK approved Oxford under EU rules. So no Brexit impact.

The difference with the UK is they didn't sign up to the bulk purchase plan with Europe - which the declined while part of the EU - so they purchased their own supply. Again, a decision made while in the EU. Ireland could have done the same but would have ment competing with the EU (and UK, and US and others) for the orders and thus cost more, with the possibility that if Ireland break away then so do France, and then so do Germany - and Ireland can't compete with EVERYONE.

Everything the UK did, was done within the EU rulebook and guidelines. Brexit had nothing to do with it.

Do you honestly believe that had Britain voted to remain in the EU on the 23rd June 2016, they would be procuring and approving vaccines outside of the unified EU plan?

bb1234567 · 18-01-2021 04:00PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Seems like bit of an understatement tbh.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1351178461734432774

So could all of the world though. There was extreme relutance to take it seriously or stop flights from Asia in February. I suppose it was up to WHO to explicitely warn and inform the world of the dangers but there were plenty of studies coming out of China about how infectious/dangerous the disease was even before anyone had been infected locally outside China.

Anyway aren't there reports of cases in people with no travel history in Europe and the US having had COVID months before the actual large outbreaks across the world. In that case how could China have acted faster seeing as it was already worldwide before Chinese government were even aware of it's existence/

PokeHerKing · 18-01-2021 04:08PM

seamus wrote: »

It's actually not Brexit-related at all except that breaking with the EMA was more politically favourable given that the UK was about to leave. Every EU country was free to approve and use the vaccines if they wanted without EMA approval. But they chose not to.

Or to put it a another way, its completely Brexit related ðŸ€£

seamus · 18-01-2021 04:11PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

Do you honestly believe that had Britain voted to remain in the EU on the 23rd June 2016, they would be procuring and approving vaccines outside of the unified EU plan?

Yes? Considering that they always operated on an exceptional basis within the EU anyway, it would have been 100% in keeping with tradition for the Brits to go it alone.

It would have been more surprising for the UK to have joined the EU purchase scheme, especially when one of the vaccines was being developed in the UK.

Loafing Oaf · 18-01-2021 04:14PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Seems like bit of an understatement tbh.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1351178461734432774

Can we get you on mastermind, World Health Organisation, specialized subject the bleeding obvious

bb1234567 · 18-01-2021 04:32PM

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1351112098852581377

Eod100 · 18-01-2021 04:41PM

Usual NPHET briefing at 5:30ish this evening

https://twitter.com/juneshannon/status/1351191096450289670

bodhrandude · 18-01-2021 04:42PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1351112098852581377

Sad stuff, he looks very young too, RIP you brave man.

babyboom · 18-01-2021 04:51PM

mcburns07 wrote: »

No disrespect but all the effort you've gone to is a bit futile if you live with two people who are out and about every day working.

True. My husband fought tooth and nail to continue working from home but to no avail. Daughter works in a books shop which is deemed "essential". She's the big risk really. The husband is in his own office in work and rarely interacts with anyone else. Neither of them have been anywhere but work and home. You can only do so much I suppose.

is_that_so · 18-01-2021 05:08PM

Seems there is no Pfizer delivery this week.

mcburns07 · 18-01-2021 05:09PM

1910 Positive Swabs. 10.18% Positivity.

jhegarty · 18-01-2021 05:09PM

Big drop in swabs 1,910 @ 10.18% Positivity Rate

seamus · 18-01-2021 05:10PM

Swabs

Sunday - 2871 / 21189 - 13.55%

Today - 1910 / 18756 - 10.18%

7-day now 13.53%

Notwithstanding the relatively low test volume on Sunday, that's a really good outcome

is_that_so · 18-01-2021 05:12PM

mcburns07 wrote: »

1910 Positive Swabs. 10.18% Positivity.

Nice but, but, but it's a Monday.

Hopefully it bodes well for the week to come. That's also the point where the HSE gets back to contact tracing process.

harr · 18-01-2021 05:12PM

mcburns07 wrote: »

1910 Positive Swabs. 10.18% Positivity.

Happy to see it under 2000 , hopefully it won’t be to long till we see hospitals improving.

Eod100 · 18-01-2021 05:13PM

That's a big drop. Hope it continues. HSE might resume testing of contacts sooner than expected so.

18-01-2021 05:15PM

seamus wrote: »

Swabs

Sunday - 2871 / 21189 - 13.55%

Today - 1910 / 18756 - 10.18%

7-day now 13.53%

Notwithstanding the relatively low test volume on Sunday, that's a really good outcome

If we are averaging 3 contacts per case, that's only another 6,000 tests to cover all contacts

Eod100 · 18-01-2021 05:18PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Seems there is no Pfizer delivery this week.

Ah feck. Thought I heard something about Pfizer saying they'd still meet all deliveries this quarter which seemed fairly unbelievable. Hopefully we have a bit of a buffer with delaying 2nd vaccine to 4 weeks instead of 3.

stephenjmcd · 18-01-2021 05:20PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Seems there is no Pfizer delivery this week.

Source?

The understanding was 1 week of reduced delivery. Normal delivery from next week again

Stheno · 18-01-2021 05:20PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Ah feck. Thought I heard something about Pfizer saying they'd still meet all deliveries this quarter which seemed fairly unbelievable. Hopefully we have a bit of a buffer with delaying 2nd vaccine to 4 weeks instead of 3.

There are none this week as they upgrading their plant to boost capacity

titan18 · 18-01-2021 05:21PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Source?

The understanding was 1 week of reduced delivery. Normal delivery from next week again

Ya, that's what I had read too. Was expecting worst case we were getting like half the usual amount rather than none at all

stephenjmcd · 18-01-2021 05:21PM

Stheno wrote: »

There are none this week as they upgrading their plant to boost capacity

I'm not sure none is correct.

They had said a reduced delivery not that there would be none. Havent seen none reported anywhere.

landofthetree · 18-01-2021 05:23PM

https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1351201537176051721

MerlinSouthDub · 18-01-2021 05:23PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If we are averaging 3 contacts per case, that's only another 6,000 tests to cover all contacts

Ronan Glynn said we were at 2.3 close contacts per case last week - see his tweet on 15 January. Remarkably low, but, yes, they should be restarting close contact testing in the next few days.

hynesie08 · 18-01-2021 05:23PM

How many did we take out of reserve for care homes?

Are there 2nd doses due this week?

Stheno · 18-01-2021 05:24PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I'm not sure none is correct.

They had said a reduced delivery not that there would be none. Havent seen none reported anywhere.

Irish Times are.reporting it

Because of wider temporary issues around the supply of the Pfizer/BioNTech affecting all European countries, there will be no deliveries to Ireland this week, thereby exacerbating the inequities established in the first months of the vaccine rollout.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coombe-vaccine-usage-symptomatic-of-wider-issues-around-rollout-fairness-1.4461304?mode=amp

stephenjmcd · 18-01-2021 05:26PM

Stheno wrote: »

Irish Times are.reporting it

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coombe-vaccine-usage-symptomatic-of-wider-issues-around-rollout-fairness-1.4461304?mode=amp

Not sure that opinion piece is correct to be honest. No other source is reporting a full no delivery this week.

Heres the Pfizer statement from Friday night

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1350169373084971011?s=19

Prof MacCraith of the vaccine task force also confirmed on Saturday that it was a 1 week reduction in delivery (no mention of no delivery) , there had been talks at EU level to ensure it was only a one week reduction

Stheno · 18-01-2021 05:29PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not sure that opinion piece is correct to be honest. No other source is reporting a full no delivery this week.

Heres the Pfizer statement from Friday night

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1350169373084971011?s=19

Prof MacCraith of the vaccine task force also confirmed on Saturday that it was a 1 week reduction in delivery (no mention of no delivery) , there had been talks at EU level to ensure it was only a one week reduction

Maybe it will be clarified in the briefing?

SheepsClothing · 18-01-2021 05:32PM

I thought it was supposed to be 50% of the usual allocation for this week and then back to usual after that.

is_that_so · 18-01-2021 05:40PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

I thought it was supposed to be 50% of the usual allocation for this week and then back to usual after that.

Or none this week and double next week?

Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

Comments