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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #6212
    Kunta Kinte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Kunta Kinte


    Deleted User wrote: »
    All I say is my little cat living with me in the apartment is a little godsend. This time last year he had advancing bone cancer; radical surgery salvaged him, and he has been entertaining me no end in my isolation!

    Will you be telling Joe that on Monday`s Liveline?;)


  • #6213
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,769 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Purple Papillon wrote: »
    There was a good article in the Irish Times before the Christmas on how to mix safely at a Christmas time.

    Some of my colleagues had plans for family dinners with mixing households and it fell on deaf ears. They weren't going to sit in thier homes with the windows open, freezing their arses off. A colleague of mine wanted her parents to come as usual and one of her parents sent that link to her and she was complaining of the article and opening windows in her home. It was a simple measure to keep all as safe as possible, in case any of her family have been exposed and become infectious and not know about it. It was unlikely the parents would have the virus because they were isolating. She felt very hard done by. She wanted her parents to come and visit her but she refused a measure that could keep them safe.

    There's so much blame towards the government and NHPET but there also comes a point where the population also bears a responsibility in this mess. Some people were going to do what they want to do no matter what and government guidelines weren't going to stop them.

    True, but a strong leadership would be nice .

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  • #6214
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    I clearly remember Tony Hoolahan saying before Xmas if you have socialised and plan on seeing your family on Xmas day you need to isolate now.

    Jesus when will this country stand up and take responsibility for their own actions?

    It wasn't the government, NHPET, Leo, Stephen Donnelly, MM, or Santa Claus who gave 50,000 people covid over xmas.

    The government will hold your hand, but they draw the line at breastfeeding.

    Man up and own your actions and consequences.

    Who are you talking to exactly?
    Most here tried to have a safe and responsible Christmas because we knew how dangerous a situation the government had left us in.

    Back in November I was really looking forward to letting my guard own and giving my ma a hug. It didn't happen.
    Instead we had a sort of tense Christmas full of caution, with a disaster looming over our heads.


  • #6215
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ultimately the government is responsible for the decision to open shops and pubs and allow household visits.....

    A week before xmas,numbers were climbing and exploded out of control with the finish up from work parties.....

    Keeping pubs open past the 18th was a diaster and only one crowd had power to.close em

    Isn't it amazing how many people chose to do the right thing while many didn't??

    Hmmm what's that called I wonder

    Oh yeah personal responsibility.

    And I didn't need the government to close pubs for me to realise that.

    We are all responsible for are own actions.

    Many chose to give 2 fingers and act like morons.

    The government have absolutely nothing to do with that.


  • #6216
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Who are you talking to exactly?
    Most here tried to have a safe and responsible Christmas because we knew how dangerous a situation the government had left us in.

    Back in November I was really looking forward to letting my guard own and giving my ma a hug. It didn't happen.
    Instead we had a sort of tense Christmas full of caution, with a disaster looming over our heads.

    Not at anyone here.


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  • #6217
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Stheno wrote: »
    It was the NPHET advice in the letter they sent, that wither you could open hospitality or allow household mixing

    Then throughout December there were regular updates telling people to limit socialising if they were going home/visiting for Christmas

    That's not quite true. NEPHT didn't want hospitality open at all but stated if the goverment did decide to open, household visits would have to be curtailed.

    I've pasted an except below from the time.


    "When it comes to hospitality, it said that the risks associated with these settings remain too high at current infection levels, and that hospitality settings and gatherings in places like bars and restaurants have been associated with super-spreading events.

    Because of this, it recommended that hospitality remain closed, except for take-away and delivery, over the eight-week period. But if some element of hospitality is retained, it was of the view that the easing of measures regarding to household mixing as it set out in its letter could not also take place."


  • #6218
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Isn't it amazing how many people chose to do the right thing while many didn't??

    Hmmm what's that called I wonder

    Oh yeah personal responsibility.

    And I didn't need the government to close pubs for me to realise that.

    We are all responsible for are own actions.

    Many chose to give 2 fingers and act like morons.

    The government have absolutely nothing to do with that.

    Mate....the government left the pubs open....quite how they justify this in a pandemic is beyond me (they also introduced tax breaks at one stage to encourage socialising and staycations iirc)

    ...but throwing arms up in air and sulking over the easing restriction leading to diaster and blaming everyone else isnt going to do.anything....its time for them to step up.and do their job for once and stop.acting like children,fcuk knows we paying em enough


  • #6219
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,281 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    True, but a strong leadership would be nice .

    Exactly . A strong message at the right time could well have helped .
    Many chose to be sensible and careful and restrict their contacts
    Some heard only what suited them and heard “ three families for dinner “ and ran with it .


  • #6220
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Personally, I had my christmas drinks with a few friends at the start of December and then restricted my movements for a couple of weeks before I saw my family Christmas week, and didn't see anyone else outside of that immediate family. I would have assumed most people would have taken the same approach.

    Turns out a few friends went a bit daft throughout December, with the end result being their family homes having covid outbreaks over Christmas and lots of worry for elderly family. Always knew they were eejits but only discovered then that they are also gob****es.


  • #6221
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Not at anyone here.

    Everyone here is perfectly prefect don’t ya know. Full adherence 101% of the time.


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  • #6222
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Exactly . A strong message at the right time could well have helped .
    Many chose to be sensible and careful and restrict their contacts
    Some heard only what suited them and heard “ three families for dinner “ and ran with it .

    Ya, three families Christmas Day. Another three Stephens Day. A different three New Years Day.


  • #6223
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Let's not make out NPHET to be some visionaries here, they never wanted to open hospitality, even the end of summer they though the same.


  • #6224
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ya, three families Christmas Day. Another three Stephens Day. A different three New Years Day.

    That was one message that was very unclear to be fair

    My read of it was three families essentially in a bubble not three different families every day you could have visitors

    It was never explicitly called out though iirc


  • #6225
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭Polar101


    AlekSmart wrote: »

    169,170 Confirmed Cases...1,848 Hospital cases...

    Is there anybody referencing the other 167,322 to see how they're gettin on....as in,are they working an stuff ?

    Obviously it's 1,848 currently hospitalised, not an all-time cumulative number.


  • #6226
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This is a worrying finding. Covid found in ice cream. https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0116/1190173-coronavirus-ice-cream/

    Don't post that here, people will have a conniption.

    :rolleyes:


  • #6227
    vienne86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Stheno wrote: »
    That was one message that was very unclear to be fair

    My read of it was three families essentially in a bubble not three different families every day you could have visitors

    It was never explicitly called out though iirc

    I think you are right and I think it was a big error in the messaging. Any mention I heard of this was just discussing it among friends.


  • #6228
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This is a worrying finding. Covid found in ice cream. https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0116/1190173-coronavirus-ice-cream/

    Last time it was Norwegian salmon. While I guess it could be possible, if this kind of frozen contamination is not detected outside China, I'd argue it's just the Chinese government making excuses for their domestic cases.


  • #6229
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    That was one message that was very unclear to be fair

    My read of it was three families essentially in a bubble not three different families every day you could have visitors

    It was never explicitly called out though iirc

    That’s the trouble. People are unable to think for themselves! And it’s all the governments fault!


  • #6230
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Are there any "studies" about those Covid positives who did not require Hospitalization,or indeed even require a Doctors visit...

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    169,170 Confirmed Cases...1,848 Hospital cases...

    Is there anybody referencing the other 167,322 to see how they're gettin on....as in,are they working an stuff ?

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/treat-symptoms-at-home.html



    On a broader scale,it seems the World Population is roaring ahead Covid or not !

    https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

    Births outstripping deaths by c.2.5 to 1

    Population growth annual...3,355,000 approx.

    We appear to have a bit to go before we experience extinction.

    Oh well....With so much information being peddled,one can sometimes experience overload ?

    As of first week of January, 7310 people have been hospitalised with COVID. It seems the actual number of people hospitalised because of COVID is about 2900- 3650 if we account for the number of people who acquired it in hospital which is 40-50% of COVID hospital patients.
    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/epidemiologyofcovid-19inirelandweeklyreports/COVID-19%20Weekly%20Report_%20Week%201_%20Slidset_HPSC%20-%20Website.pdf

    I have no doubt world population is increasing despite COVID but I doubt that worldometers ticker is reflective of. Is it not just a gimmick, based on average statistics globally of the number of deaths/births that occur most years


  • #6231
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,769 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Isn't it amazing how many people chose to do the right thing while many didn't??

    Hmmm what's that called I wonder

    Oh yeah personal responsibility.

    And I didn't need the government to close pubs for me to realise that.

    We are all responsible for are own actions.

    Many chose to give 2 fingers and act like morons.

    The government have absolutely nothing to do with that.


    Of course they do.
    That is the essence of government .
    That is what they are elected for , leadership , as well as legislation
    That is what they are expected to do to earn that very nice salary and pension .

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  • #6232
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    That’s the trouble. People are unable to think for themselves! And it’s all the governments fault!

    For the minority who are as thick as two small planks, you need to do their thinking for them

    For those who just wilfully ignored guidelines there is little that can be done


  • #6233
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,769 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Personally, I had my christmas drinks with a few friends at the start of December and then restricted my movements for a couple of weeks before I saw my family Christmas week, and didn't see anyone else outside of that immediate family. I would have assumed most people would have taken the same approach.

    Turns out a few friends went a bit daft throughout December, with the end result being their family homes having covid outbreaks over Christmas and lots of worry for elderly family. Always knew they were eejits but only discovered then that they are also gob****es.

    I think a lot of people were shocked in the New Year to hear that while they had been doubling down on restricting their contacts in the run up to Christmas so they could celebrate safely , the Where's Wally of the family had been socialising up to and including Christmas week but never mentioned it until after he / she was testing positive and HSE were on the phone :confused:

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  • #6234
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    For the minority who are as thick as two small planks, you need to do their thinking for them

    For those who just wilfully ignored guidelines there is little that can be done

    How very true.


  • #6235
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    I think a lot of people were shocked in the New Year to hear that while they had been doubling down on restricting their contacts in the run up to Christmas so they could celebrate safely , the Where's Wally of the family had been socialising up to and including Christmas week but never mentioned it until after he / she was testing positive and HSE were on the phone :confused:

    Yup, lots of idiots without a care for anyone out there. They just made it very easy this year for them to be spotted. I'd imagine there were quite a few tense family settings over Christmas.


  • #6236
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭maebee


    No matter how careful people were, some outbreaks were beyond their control. Our family adhered strictly to the rules and we had the quietest Christmas ever and it still got into our home. Our son was Best Man at a wedding on NYE. Of the 25 at the wedding, 8 tested positive in the following days, including our son & his gf, who isolated immediately and didn't infect us. All 8 positives are in their 20s and 30s and are fine now.


  • #6237
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    maebee wrote: »
    No matter how careful people were, some outbreaks were beyond their control. Our family adhered strictly to the rules and we had the quietest Christmas ever and it still got into our home. Our son was Best Man at a wedding on NYE. Of the 25 at the wedding, 8 tested positive in the following days, including our son & his gf, who isolated immediately and didn't infect us. All 8 positives are in their 20s and 30s and are fine now.

    Any idea where from?


  • #6238
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    HSE operations report 16/1.

    Covid cases hospitalised as of 8pm 1872 - increase from 1800.
    9 hospitals with over 100 cases.

    ICU confirmed Covid cases as of 6.30pm 186 - increase from 185.
    3 deaths in ICU 24 hours up to 8am.
    Confirmed Covid cases ventilated as of 6.30pm 111 - increase from 108.

    Available ICU beds 24 as of 6.30pm.
    11 ICUs with no available beds.
    Total open and staffed ICU beds 320.


  • #6239
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭maebee


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Any idea where from?

    7 guests and the photographer tested positive. Photography is bad for you LOL


  • #6240
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    maebee wrote: »
    7 guests and the photographer tested positive. Photography is bad for you LOL

    You could say it has a negative effect:D


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  • #6241
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1350566629101498368


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