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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    is_that_so wrote: »
    But not unexpected with so many COVID cases. CMO and Nolan have been saying it for a week or so. We may see it high for a while.

    Exactly. You can't have that many cases and deaths not rise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Stheno wrote: »
    Cases have dropped 50% in a week iirc

    Jaysis that was a long week . 6k cases seems like 2 months ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Expected a much quicker drop than this . Where are they coming from

    All the party goers over Christmas went home to their families and the infections are spreading through these families now. That will take a few weeks to play out. That’s my theory anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    Expected a much quicker drop than this . Where are they coming from

    That’s the problem. This thing gains huge momentum and it’s far harder to wind it back from a high level than just preventing it getting to that stage in the first place.

    It’s now widespread in the community in a way that it wasn’t, and unlike the U.K., we are not that far along on vaccines due to the supply chain being different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    60 more deaths, 3,231 further new cases

    RIP :(

    931 are in Dublin, 388 in Cork, 238 in Louth, 155 in Waterford, 151 in Limerick, and the remaining 1,368 cases are spread across all other counties


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Russman


    Stheno wrote: »
    Cases have dropped 50% in a week iirc

    Which is really good, but we’re now two weeks out from New Years and supposedly in the highest level of restrictions, where are three thousand people a day still getting covid ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Jaysis that was a long week . 6k cases seems like 2 months ago
    The 6th and 8th were around 8K cases and 7K on the 10th!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Are they testing close contacts again? We were at double that case number not so long ago, so shouldn't close contact testing be back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Russman wrote: »
    Which is really good, but we’re now two weeks out from New Years and supposedly in the highest level of restrictions, where are three thousand people a day still getting covid ?

    Probably at home.

    People get it at Christmas and then it works their way through their families and close contacts and support bubbles.

    You will never get a R0 below 0.4 or 0.5 imo. 0.5 means it will half every infection cycle (average of a week).


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Russman wrote: »
    Which is really good, but we’re now two weeks out from New Years and supposedly in the highest level of restrictions, where are three thousand people a day still getting covid ?

    Takes time for symptoms

    So I people might have partied New Years, symptoms five days later and unknowingly infected others

    I'm hoping we see a further decline the end of next week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    Just to put that into a USA scale, that’s the same as 4016 deaths reported in 24h.
    Or 814 deaths in the UK.

    These are very high numbers unfortunately.

    I hate talking about stats around deaths, but I think it’s important to understand how serious this is and not just compare total numbers out of context of population.

    RIP to all those who died and condolences to their families. This is an extremely hard time for a lot of people.

    That’s 60 families dealing with losing a loved one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Are they testing close contacts again? We were at double that case number not so long ago, so shouldn't close contact testing be back?

    No not yet afaik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Are they testing close contacts again? We were at double that case number not so long ago, so shouldn't close contact testing be back?

    I've heard of a few asymptomatic close contacts being tested, but I'm not sure it's widespread. Perhaps only when they have capacity they do it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    jackboy wrote: »
    All the party goers over Christmas went home to their families and the infections are spreading through these families now. That will take a few weeks to play out. That’s my theory anyway.

    Johnny brought it home.

    He gave it to his parents and his two siblings. The two siblings went back to their shared accommodation, spread it to their housemates and possibly their workmates if they cant wfh. The parents are also passing it on.

    This will take months to get under control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Stheno wrote: »
    Cases have dropped 50% in a week iirc

    Yes, but that's because of the backlog.

    The decline in swabs does seem worryingly slow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    The_Brood wrote: »

    In the face of that, there is absolutely nothing out there that should "not be accepted" in order to counter it. Nothing. Things cannot possibly get more devastating than the misery we are in right now.

    Nothing? A cull of the population so.

    Obviously a ridiculous example (from me) but you can't give a blanket "nothing". That's how dictatorships start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Russman wrote: »
    Which is really good, but we’re now two weeks out from New Years and supposedly in the highest level of restrictions, where are three thousand people a day still getting covid ?

    Runs in the family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Are they testing close contacts again? We were at double that case number not so long ago, so shouldn't close contact testing be back?

    Not yet anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Are they testing close contacts again? We were at double that case number not so long ago, so shouldn't close contact testing be back?

    They are testing close contacts in medical hospital environments. Not in the community.

    They have also resumed mass testing of hospital employees and nursing homes.

    We were about 4000 swabs a day when they suspended close contact testing. We were about 1000 swabs a day when they abandoned mass testing in nursing homes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Russman


    Stheno wrote: »
    Takes time for symptoms

    So I people might have partied New Years, symptoms five days later and unknowingly infected others

    I'm hoping we see a further decline the end of next week

    Yeah I hadn’t factored in the first few pre symptomatic days of the Jan. hopefully it’ll start to reduce properly in another week or so.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    Expected a much quicker drop than this . Where are they coming from

    People aren't adhering to the guidelines. Look around people everywhere going about their lives like nothing wrong. We'll still have huge numbers of infected in a few weeks time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Are they testing close contacts again? We were at double that case number not so long ago, so shouldn't close contact testing be back?
    They will return to them when positivity rates and daily positive cases come down. Today's numbers for example could produce an extra 6-9K close contacts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Datacore wrote: »
    That number isn’t going down. Seems to be plateauing at over 3000 cases a day.

    Are we certain this isn’t another case of the system being beyond max test capacity? That figure seems too similar for multiple days.

    Any backlogs ?

    3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Russman


    Johnny brought it home.

    He gave it to his parents and his two siblings. The two siblings went back to their shared accommodation, spread it to their housemates and possibly their workmates if they cant wfh. The parents are also passing it on.

    This will take months to get under control.

    You could be right. Unfortunately I suspect the review of restrictions on 31st will be a pretty brief affair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Ironhead93


    I'm still a little baffled how high the numbers have gotten, did we really have the least restricted Christmas in the world? (obviously excluding outliers like NZ AND AUS)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    Ironhead93 wrote: »
    I'm still a little baffled how high the numbers have gotten, did we really have the least restricted Christmas in the world? (obviously excluding outliers like NZ AND AUS)

    Seems like we did. They’re aren’t many other explanations.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Russman wrote: »
    You could be right. Unfortunately I suspect the review of restrictions on 31st will be a pretty brief affair.

    You can take it as given we will stay where we are now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    People aren't adhering to the guidelines. Look around people everywhere going about their lives like nothing wrong. We'll still have huge numbers of infected in a few weeks time.

    Ach it's not that definitive. SOME, even MANY, people perhaps but there are still large numbers of people sticking rigidly to the guidelines. I agree that too many aren't giving it full adherence but there are many more taking it very seriously. Indeed, I've heard previously sceptical people starting to at last take it seriously in just the past week,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Ironhead93 wrote: »
    I'm still a little baffled how high the numbers have gotten, did we really have the least restricted Christmas in the world? (obviously excluding outliers like NZ AND AUS)

    Google data suggests we had by far the wildest Christmas in the eu


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Not testing close contacts with a virus that transmits asymptomatically and new variants makes it very difficult to suppress. I think we will stall a about 1,500-2,000


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