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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #5702
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Have they heard of the 21st century? Or even the later part of the 20th

    For years it's always been come down to the office to pay. Nothing in the letter about here's bank details to pay into this or anything.


  • #5703
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Ugh. Stubborn.


    It’s similar in many ways to the spring, albeit at higher numbers due to better testing capacity. Then as well it seemed that numbers were slow to start falling before suddenly plummeting. The virus as been pushed back into homes and hospitals by a large, however will take time to work its way through those settings.

    The exact same pattern is emerging at work as did in early April. Suddenly the number of staff off requiring Covid testing, tested positive or as contacts has plummeted. I am confident we are not much more than two weeks from getting this below 1000 again


  • #5704
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    titan18 wrote: »
    For years it's always been come down to the office to pay. Nothing in the letter about here's bank details to pay into this or anything.

    Cash only??.?
    Surely you could post a cheque of they’re somehow not electronic??


  • #5705
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    titan18 wrote: »
    For years it's always been come down to the office to pay. Nothing in the letter about here's bank details to pay into this or anything.

    You have to wonder about businesses in this day and age. Like that dog trainer on the rte financial program, still using cheques and didnt have a debit card.


  • #5706
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • #5707
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    jojofizzio wrote: »
    Cash only??.?
    Surely you could post a cheque of they’re somehow not electronic??

    I believe you can use card on the day, but I think it's mainly people paying in cash.

    I would imagine we can try posting a cheque but it doesn't actually call it out on the letter. Just says fees expected and office is open for a set amount of hours both weekends so please call down and pay.


  • #5708
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    titan18 wrote: »
    I believe you can use card on the day, but I think it's mainly people paying in cash.

    If he accepts card,it’s astonishing they can’t take the details over the phone.....especially when you consider it’s a pandemic and all......


  • #5709
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,861 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    titan18 wrote: »
    I've a mobile home down in Kerry that we go to for summer holidays.

    Got a letter today saying fees are due for the summer and their office will be open this weekend and next weekend so that people can come down to pay.

    Most people who have mobile homes there are from Cork and Limerick so obviously outside 5k, and the fact that he was asking people to come down and queue up for a tiny little office that he'd have staff working in shows the level of idiocy we're dealing with.



    Presumably he won’t take a card payment either!

    That sound suspiciously to me like a fella who doesn’t want his income to be showing online.


  • #5710
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It’s similar in many ways to the spring, albeit at higher numbers due to better testing capacity. Then as well it seemed that numbers were slow to start falling before suddenly plummeting. The virus as been pushed back into homes and hospitals by a large, however will take time to work its way through those settings.

    The exact same pattern is emerging at work as did in early April. Suddenly the number of staff off requiring Covid testing, tested positive or as contacts has plummeted. I am confident we are not much more than two weeks from getting this below 1000 again

    I'd probably have agreed with this but I can't help but fear that our restrictions won't work as well as we'd hoped against this new bloody variant.

    I can't remember which british politician it was, but I recall hearing something to the affect of "tier 3 restrictions did not work as expected in Kent".

    Hopefully I'm wrong, because we don't have much ammo left


  • #5711
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,861 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    You have to wonder about businesses in this day and age. Like that dog trainer on the rte financial program, still using cheques and didnt have a debit card.



    You can’t teach an old....


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  • #5712
    foozzybear61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭foozzybear61


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Did they kiss and make up? :)

    Martin is a waffler ..if you give him time he would philabuster for the length of the interview and never answer any question "I want to make it absolutely clear to the listeners "..meholes favourite punchline...except its never clear, so he can deny later when the facts change


  • #5713
    loughside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    Presumably he won’t take a card payment either!

    That sound suspiciously to me like a fella who doesn’t want his income to be showing online.


    he isn`t Trumps tax adviser by any chance?


  • #5714
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    titan18 wrote: »
    I've a mobile home down in Kerry that we go to for summer holidays.

    Got a letter today saying fees are due for the summer and their office will be open this weekend and next weekend so that people can come down to pay.

    Most people who have mobile homes there are from Cork and Limerick so obviously outside 5k, and the fact that he was asking people to come down and queue up for a tiny little office that he'd have staff working in shows the level of idiocy we're dealing with.

    That's like something out of an Ask Audrey sketch! Drive down to Kerry to pay him in cash! How does anyone agree to that?


  • #5715
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    Presumably he won’t take a card payment either!

    That sound suspiciously to me like a fella who doesn’t want his income to be showing online.

    Potentially, but he's 70 something so at same time, night not even know. Like the letter we got is printed but there's also handwriting on it like he forgot something and needed to make an extra note. Considering its a few hundred mobile homes, that was a lot of handwriting to be bothering with


  • #5716
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    titan18 wrote: »
    Potentially, but he's 70 something so at same time, night not even know. Like the letter we got is printed but there's also handwriting on it like he forgot something and needed to make an extra note. Considering its a few hundred mobile homes, that was a lot of handwriting to be bothering with

    Sounds like he'll be robbed blind some day


  • #5717
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Eventually the government will have to make a call as to how long they can fund level 5 restrictions.


  • #5718
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Sounds like he'll be robbed blind some day

    Whats that Fat Tony?

    156?cb=20110502131437


  • #5719
    vienne86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    titan18 wrote: »
    Potentially, but he's 70 something so at same time, night not even know. Like the letter we got is printed but there's also handwriting on it like he forgot something and needed to make an extra note. Considering its a few hundred mobile homes, that was a lot of handwriting to be bothering with

    When our payment was due for our mobile in Wexford in 2020 we just rang and said we couldn't get down to pay until inter-county travel restrictions were lifted in June. We offered to do a bank transfer but we were told that in the circumstances they were happy to hold on. We were thanked profusely for phoning!


  • #5720
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Whats that Fat Tony?

    156?cb=20110502131437

    You have 24 hours to give us our money. And to show you we're serious… You have 12 Hours


  • #5721
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Eventually the government will have to make a call as to how long they can fund level 5 restrictions.

    If they open up too early cases will explode again. So, the government has no choice but to keep going until the numbers are way down.


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  • #5722
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Source?


    Source for what?

    Do you mean the new strain from Brazil?

    Why do you think we are seeing tougher measures in the UK, why do you think the French have curfews from 6pm, why is Merkel saying tougher lockdown until April at the least?

    open your eyes, do some reading.

    The UK would not be shutting down all travel into the country if everything looked good!


  • #5723
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    If they open up too early cases will explode again. So, the government has no choice but to keep going until the numbers are way down.

    Cases exploding but with lower hospitalisations as all the vulnerable have been vaccinated is a VERY different scenario

    And of course has a very different weighting when set aside the social and long term public health costs of the restrictions


  • #5724
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,861 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Source for what?

    Do you mean the new strain from Brazil?

    Why do you think we are seeing tougher measures in the UK, why do you think the French have curfews from 6pm, why is Merkel saying tougher lockdown until April at the least?

    open your eyes, do some reading.

    The UK would not be shutting down all travel into the country if everything looked good!




    So no source so.


  • #5725
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    So no source so.

    There is only one reason why as a country shuts down all travel into it.

    Panic and survival.


  • #5726
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    There is only one reason why as a country shuts down all travel into it.

    Panic and survival.

    But the UK are not shutting down all travel?


  • #5727
    Datacore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    The talk about the ICU capacity vs social and vaccination measures is a bit like saying that you’d solve car crashes with ICUs instead of road safety and seatbelts.

    The outcome in ICUs, even in the best run facilities in the world, isn’t very good. They’re last resort, throw everything and the kitchen sink at it and hope for the best type facilities when dealing with something like this.

    The other issue is that even in very well resourced systems the ICU capacity is finite and relatively limited. No systems were designed with a view to having a significant % of the population using them simultaneously.

    I’m also a bit curious about what different countries classify as an ICU bed. Ireland seems to classify only a bed that’s got all of the staff for one on one nursing etc etc, are other countries possibly classifying any physical bed with machinery as an ICU bed?

    Eg the numbers in Germany vs Denmark don’t make sense to me. Or why has NZ got such ludicrously low numbers ?

    The virus cases multiply exponentially, so very quickly systems become swamped.

    Look at what happened in the USA and they have a lot of ICU capacity, on paper anyway. It once the cases peaked their hospitals were quite quickly swamped.

    If you’ve 2X a small number, it’s still a small number. It’s like saying you’re going to be better at stopping a flood because you’ve 3 sand bags while someone else as 1 sandbag. If it’s the width of the Shannon, it’s all a bit of an irrelevance.


  • #5728
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    muddypuppy wrote: »
    We haven't been under level 5 for "a good few weeks". I know it feels forever, but restrictions started to be introduced on the 24th of December, 21 days ago - but that only included closing pub/restaurants. Mixing of two households was still allowed until the 26th (19 days ago) and 1 household until the 1 of January (15 days ago). Non-essential retail was closed on the 31st.

    So we have been under proper level 5 for about 2 weeks.

    And you can add to that 140,000 people who came home for Christmas, a significant number of them from the UK, which was already a huge hot spot before they travelled, and nearly half of them didn't give an address for where they were (in theory) self isolating after arrival. No small wonder that things went through the roof.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #5729
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    But the UK are not shutting down all travel?

    Requiring PCR tests isn’t the same as shutting down travel


  • #5730
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    But the UK are not shutting down all travel?

    All UK travel corridors to close from Monday to keep out new variants
    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-all-uk-travel-corridors-to-close-from-monday-in-face-of-new-coronavirus-variants-12188891


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  • #5731
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Source for what?

    Do you mean the new strain from Brazil?

    Why do you think we are seeing tougher measures in the UK, why do you think the French have curfews from 6pm, why is Merkel saying tougher lockdown until April at the least?

    open your eyes, do some reading.

    The UK would not be shutting down all travel into the country if everything looked good!

    Im lazy.

    But Id read something if you linked it


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