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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #5312
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55666198

    New variation in Brazil, UK will ban all people from or who have travelled through all of S America, Portugal and Cape Verde, no matter if for employment,
    Now, we have a sizeable Brazilian and S American population here, can we expect the govt to be proactive for once in regards to travel?


  • #5313
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    How is Belmullet so bad? It's in the middle of nowhere?

    Party in a hotel according to local knowledge


  • #5314
    Hold My Hand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Hold My Hand


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    George looms like a bird of doom

    I thought we saw positive George tonight


  • #5315
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Hold My Hand wrote: »
    I thought we saw positive George tonight

    Has he Covid?


  • #5316
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Has he Covid?

    Nah he's so miserable even the virus doesn't want to be close to him


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  • #5317
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,178 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    14-day Incidence by Local Electoral Area

    6, 032 - Belmullet, Co Mayo
    3,789 - Dundalk South, Co Louth
    3,118 - Adare-Rathkeale, Co Limerick
    3, 107 - Tramore, Co Waterford
    3,054 - Ballybay-Clones, Co Monaghan
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  • #5318
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Stheno wrote: »
    Nah he's so miserable even the virus doesn't want to be close to him

    He should be happy, only for Covid he would be languishing in the bowels of Donnybrook, only to be wheeled out occasionally. Hard to know where Fergal Bowers is, far more balanced and less prone to the dramatics.


  • #5319
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    LEA For waterford 15/12 to latest

    14-01-2021.jpg


  • #5320
    [Deleted User]
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    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55666198

    New variation in Brazil, UK will ban all people from or who have travelled through all of S America, Portugal and Cape Verde, no matter if for employment,
    Now, we have a sizeable Brazilian and S American population here, can we expect the govt to be proactive for once in regards to travel?

    There are no direct flights anyway to the UK or Ireland. So not exactly hard for anyone from S America to bypass the ban. Like if someone transits through Frankfurt and doesn’t volunteer that they started in Rio, how is anyone supposed to know

    The ban is hardly worth it


  • #5321
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    How is Belmullet so bad? It's in the middle of nowhere?

    Superspreaders.

    Guy arrives home for Xmas while infected, and over the course of five days he meets up with old friends, goes out to restaurants, and watches the All-Ireland final on a big screen at the local GAA club. He accumulates 200 close contacts in that time, resulting in 25 new infections. Those 25 people likewise do the tour of family and friends over Xmas, resulting in ten new infections each.

    Before you know it you've got the guts of 300 infections from a single individual.

    2 or 3 infected individuals arrive home for Xmas and bingo-bango 3 weeks later 6% of the town is infected.


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  • #5322
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    How is Belmullet so bad? It's in the middle of nowhere?

    Seeing people say it was a stephens day session in a hotel/pub. On Twitter can link a few tweets but can’t stand over their truth, so can delete of mod wishes


  • #5323
    PO!NT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭PO!NT


    Ireland has second highest vaccine administration rate in EU - RTE

    Every time the Media or the HSE spurt out this Eurovision nonsense, things go belly up.


  • #5324
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    KathleenGrant wrote: »
    Breaking restrictions and absolutely wrong but you could have more contact going 1km for burgers than 80km. The question i wonder is were there 3 different households. If they don't care about distance they surely don't care about mixing.
    The hive mind on Twitter suggests that "going for burgers" was a cover in case they were stopped. They drove 80km to pick up drugs.

    That makes a lot more sense, especially given that Donnybrook is not known for especially tasty burgers.


  • #5325
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    seamus wrote: »
    The hive mind on Twitter suggests that "going for burgers" was a cover in case they were stopped. They drove 80km to pick up drugs.

    That makes a lot more sense, especially given that Donnybrook is not known for especially tasty burgers.

    Yup, they were not driving for burgers. People are so innocent :)


  • #5326
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    seamus wrote: »
    The hive mind on Twitter suggests that "going for burgers" was a cover in case they were stopped. They drove 80km to pick up drugs.

    That makes a lot more sense, especially given that Donnybrook is not known for especially tasty burgers.

    Ah! That makes perfect sense.


  • #5327
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Yup, they were not driving for burgers. People are so innocent :)

    Lol I believed it, was thinking yeah I’d love an Eddie Rockets right now


  • #5328
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    How is Belmullet so bad? It's in the middle of nowhere?

    It has a very high number of emigrants who return at Christmas. Seems lots of them come home , eg from UK, there were loads of family reunions. Mayo was also in the All Ireland a week or so before Christmas so a lot of drowning of sorrows to be done. So a kind of perfect storm There is also some story of lots of partying in a hotel on Stephens Day. Some small businesses now closed or on short hours ever since.


  • #5329
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Yup, they were not driving for burgers. People are so innocent :)

    especially the Gardai, unfortunately.


  • #5330
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    frank8211 wrote: »
    It has a very high number of emigrants who return at Christmas. Seems lots of them come home , eg from UK, there were loads of family reunions. Mayo was also in the All Ireland a week or so before Christmas so a lot of drowning of sorrows to be done. So a kind of perfect storm There is also some story of lots of partying in a hotel on Stephens Day. Some small businesses now closed or on short hours ever since.

    Did hotels stay open after Christmas eve?


  • #5331
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    No, they do not. The models do not make any assumptions about the potential impact of restrictions, if that it what you mean.




    No. I was referring to a change in regime. And I don't mean Micheal for Leo



    If you are going to infer a value, say R0, from a metric such as death or hospitalisation, then a model you think it accurate when there are say 50-60 infections a day won't naively scale up to 5000-6000.


    If your cases go from 50->100 per day then maybe your (lagged) deaths will grow from X->2X. But going from say 5000->10000 cases per day would more than likely result in a more than doubling of deaths.


    We were in one phase up to a few weeks ago where they were testing everyone and trying to get/keep ahead of the disease. They appear to be currently in a fire-fighting phase at the minute. So they wouldn't be able to naively apply exact same models today as three weeks ago.


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  • #5332
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    Stheno wrote: »
    Did hotels stay open after Christmas eve?

    Not for new guests but existing ones could see out their booking. And the ones in belmullet did just that and had a great hooley on Stephens Day.... apparently


  • #5333
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    seamus wrote: »
    Discharge from ICU, afaik, means they've been transferred back to a normal ward. So on the face of it if the numbers have dropped but can't be accounted for in discharges, then they must be deaths.

    One thing I'm not sure of - if someone in ICU has two negative PCR tests, but has to remain in ICU, are they listed as a discharge, or do they just fall off the numbers? Or do they remain as a "Covid patient" in the ICU numbers until they're discharged?

    Someone with confirmed Covid in ICU (or anywhere else for that matter) is now not retested for 90 days. PCR can remain positive for many months in some cases but in those situations samples have been shown not to be infectious based on viral cultures.

    If already tested positive on admission or just prior to admission to ICU and in ICU due to Covid-related illness patients would not be in situation of having two negative swabs. Would remain in ICU Covid figures if in ICU due to Covid related illness or complication arising from it.


  • #5334
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Henley Tangy User wrote: »
    See 3 idiots decided to drive 80 km from Meath to Dublin to get takeaway burgers. The message obviously hasn't got through some people's skulls.




    I'd read that story as 3 idiots drove from Meath to Dublin and when stopped, were under the impression that if they said they were going for something "essential", such as the take-away that was located across from the checkpoint, that the cops couldn't do anything on them.


  • #5335
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭maebee


    On a lighter note. Today was Day 14 of isolation for me. I was like a hare out of the trap and went for a lovely long country walk. I was double masked + face screened. On a very narrow boreen, 4 x 15/16 year old lads approached me, walking the width of the boreen. I waited til the last minute, when they weren't moving single file and I said " Lads, will you move over there, I'm a close contact. The 4 of them nearly jumped into the bushes :).


  • #5336
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Donald Trump wrote: »

    If you are going to infer a value, say R0, from a metric such as death or hospitalisation, then a model you think it accurate when there are say 50-60 infections a day won't naively scale up to 5000-6000.

    If your cases go from 50->100 per day then maybe your (lagged) deaths will grow from X->2X. But going from say 5000->10000 cases per day would more than likely result in a more than doubling of deaths.


    We were in one phase up to a few weeks ago where they were testing everyone and trying to get/keep ahead of the disease. They appear to be currently in a fire-fighting phase at the minute. So they wouldn't be able to naively apply exact same models today as three weeks ago.

    Ah ok, I don't know, to be honest. I can't find the documents they published originally which detailed the modelling used.


  • #5337
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Here in Poland, if you have tested positive your not considered a close contact for a period of 3 months after the end of your isolation period
    Effectively the same here. People not supposed to be retested within 90 days of having a positive swab.


  • #5338
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    seamus wrote: »
    The hive mind on Twitter suggests that "going for burgers" was a cover in case they were stopped. They drove 80km to pick up drugs.

    That makes a lot more sense, especially given that Donnybrook is not known for especially tasty burgers.

    They were stopped in Ringsend. A couple of minutes drive from Bujo in Sandymount.


  • #5339
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    HSE operations report 14/1.

    Covid cases hospitalised as of 8pm 1785 - increase from 1733

    ICU confirmed Covid cases as of 6.30pm 171 - decrease from 174
    5 deaths in ICU 24 hours up to 8am.
    Confirmed Covid cases ventilated 101 as of 6.30pm - increase from 97.

    Available ICU beds 27 as of 6.30pm.
    13 ICUs with no available beds.
    Total open and staffed ICU beds increased to 316.


  • #5340
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    Stheno wrote: »
    Nah he's so miserable even the virus doesn't want to be close to him

    If COVID loves to party then it would certainly be giving George Lee a wide berth..


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  • #5341
    copeyhagen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    majcos wrote: »
    HSE operations report 14/1.

    Covid cases hospitalised as of 8pm 1785 - increase from 1733

    ICU confirmed Covid cases as of 6.30pm 171 - decrease from 174
    5 deaths in ICU 24 hours up to 8am.
    Confirmed Covid cases ventilated 101 as of 6.30pm - increase from 97.

    Available ICU beds 27 as of 6.30pm.
    13 ICUs with no available beds.
    Total open and staffed ICU beds increased to 316.

    we jus ehard that 50% of patients in hospital with covid, picked it up in there. so should that actually read:

    Covid patients currently in hospital as of 8pm 1785 - increase from 1733


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