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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #5282
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Absolutely .

    Hence the necessity to keep case numbers low and community transmission down .

    I have said before research has shown that if a patient contracts this and requires surgery they are 15% more likely of a bad outcome or death .

    It is hard to say definitively if people who have tested positive in hospital had the infection but tested negative / not detected before they come in or got it in hospital .

    Clusters are traced and that data should be made available I agree.

    It is just jumping on a bandwagon though saying " oh look, they got it in hospital" , and not thinking beyond that .

    I think we broadly agree to be honest. One thing is for sure we seriously as a country need to make health care the number 1 priority when this is all over. Invest seriously in improved facilities and staffing instead of just management.


  • #5283
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I am absolutely not blaming health care staff or patients.

    Just I keep asking because surely there is something that could be done or decided in the higher levels to mitigate.
    More testing (antigen +PCR?), Covid free Hospitals for vulnerable inpatients (I know impossible but maybe some covid only hospitals would be an idea?)

    Just surely there is some strategy that could be taken to help this?




    Glad to know you are not blaming HCWs :pac:


    Those strategies are ongoing since the first lockdown .


    This unfortunately is the hardest fact of this pandemic , trying to keep the critter out of non Covid areas .

    Now they're trying to make the private service the nonCovid , as it is so damn difficult even splitting entry through to discharge for both nonCovid and Covid in different sections in general hospitals .
    We will need this in the next few weeks as numbers in hospitals continue to rise .

    I wish them luck and hope it works because once community transmission is high nothing seems to be without risk .


  • #5284
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I think we broadly agree to be honest. One thing is for sure we seriously as a country need to make health care the number 1 priority when this is all over. Invest seriously in improved facilities and staffing instead of just management.


    Definitely agree with that :D


  • #5285
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Sorry some data missing. Gov.ie not updated with the usual info only has the briefing numbers

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  • #5286
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Terrible situation seems to be unfolding in Manaus, Brazil.
    This city (of 2.2 million) was hit hard in the first wave, with some speculation that herd immunity had been reached.

    That seems unlikely though, given the severity of infection there now.
    Unless reinfection is a possibility?
    Might this be related to the new strain in Brazil?

    Covid eruption in Brazil's largest state leaves health workers begging for help

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/14/brazil-manaus-amazonas-covid-coronavirus

    EDIT: Wrong thread for this? Is this thread related to Ireland only? Mods please move if so.


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  • #5287
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Vaccine data just added to hub
    1/13/2021
    Total Vaccines Administered (1st Dose)
    77,303


  • #5288
    Lollipop95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    It’s all just so grim. I was so optimistic that this year would be different and we’d see the end of this thing but now I just don’t know


  • #5289
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    It’s all just so grim. I was so optimistic that this year would be different and we’d see the end of this thing but now I just don’t know

    It will be a better year.

    It's just a terrible start that didn't have to be this way.


  • #5290
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Terrible situation seems to be unfolding in Manaus, Brazil.
    This city (of 2.2 million) was hit hard in the first wave, with some speculation that herd immunity had been reached.

    That seems unlikely though, given the severity of infection there now.
    Unless reinfection is a possibility?
    Might this be related to the new strain in Brazil?

    Covid eruption in Brazil's largest state leaves health workers begging for help

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/14/brazil-manaus-amazonas-covid-coronavirus

    That original herd immunity study was junk. It was based on data derived from blood donations. It grossly overestimated seroprevelance.


  • #5291
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/experts-warn-that-new-more-transmissible-strain-of-covid-19-could-be-on-the-way-as-28-further-deaths-and-3955-more-cases-reported-39969987.html

    Do they mean more transmissible then the UK variant.


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  • #5292
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Hardyn wrote: »
    That original herd immunity study was junk. It was based on data derived from blood donations. It grossly overestimated seroprevelance.

    Why do blood donation studies overestimate? I've seen some blood donor studies from a few countries suggesting massive sero prevalence, including one in Sweden which was clearly now very misleading. But why would people who are blood donors be more likely to have had COVID?


  • #5293
    HeyV
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭HeyV


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    It’s all just so grim. I was so optimistic that this year would be different and we’d see the end of this thing but now I just don’t know

    I’m feeling kinda similar to how you are, it’s hard not to be affected by it all :(
    Hang in there... I’m trying to limit the amount of time I spend on here, and other websites too. It is what it is at the moment, and all we can do is just try mind ourselves, limit interactions with others, keep up the hand hygiene routines, masks etc. It does suck though, you’re right


  • #5294
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    It’s all just so grim. I was so optimistic that this year would be different and we’d see the end of this thing but now I just don’t know

    Half of this year will be good or much better hopefully


  • #5295
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Why do blood donation studies overestimate? I've seen some blood donor studies from a few countries suggesting massive sero prevalence, including one in Sweden which was clearly now very misleading. But why would people who are blood donors be more likely to have had COVID?

    There was something about people being offered a covid test if they donated blood, and even given taxi fare. And because it was so prevalent in Manaus it was hard to get a test and so people opted for that. That is the theory or one of them. 75% seroprevalence was probably not true but I would imagine it was fairly high in Manaus last wave as deaths etc were high enough. Some say was in different parts of city. Don't know for sure - just things I have picked up here and there.


  • #5296
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/experts-warn-that-new-more-transmissible-strain-of-covid-19-could-be-on-the-way-as-28-further-deaths-and-3955-more-cases-reported-39969987.html

    Do they mean more transmissible then the UK variant.

    Anything for clicks. A throwaway comment about the possibility of it happening turned into a story.

    We've enough to be worrying about right now without contemplating how the virus may or may not evolve over the next few months.

    The media have been having a field day the past 12 months and it does nothing for the mood of the nation. Can we not just deal in facts instead of sensationalising everything?


  • #5297
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Omg 6% of Belmullet's population have tested positive in the last 2 weeks! Wtaf
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-one-in-17-belmullet-residents-tests-positive-in-past-fortnight-figures-show-1.4458712?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


  • #5298
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    Denotifications on the up again, 42 today.

    It initially looked like 10k cases had been de-notified! I then realised there's a typo in the announcement - that says 153,057 cases while the report says 163,057. Pretty shoddy they do not seem to correct such errors.


  • #5299
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Why do blood donation studies overestimate? I've seen some blood donor studies from a few countries suggesting massive sero prevalence, including one in Sweden which was clearly now very misleading. But why would people who are blood donors be more likely to have had COVID?

    Because they're not representative of the population. In the case of Manaus poorer parts of the city were using donations as a means to get tested.


  • #5300
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/experts-warn-that-new-more-transmissible-strain-of-covid-19-could-be-on-the-way-as-28-further-deaths-and-3955-more-cases-reported-39969987.html

    Do they mean more transmissible then the UK variant.

    Some strains may be less so. They won't grab any headlines though. There may well be some that are more transmissable, but who knows and indeed some of it could well be lost in the roundings

    We've already seen South African and Brazilian variants that are being suggested to have a similar transmissible rate to the UK one.

    Just to add, the references to UK, South Africa and Brazil relate to where these variants were first detected. That does not automatically mean the strain originated there.


  • #5301
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    It will be a better year.

    It's just a terrible start that didn't have to be this way.

    Well it was always going to be bad. Just maybe didn’t have to be this bad. Between the mother and baby homes and covid the news is very sad this week.


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  • #5302
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    The North's leaders want more cooperation with Dublin regarding a common travel policy.

    It turns out Dublin has ignored pleas by Stormont.

    More and more dripping out making the government looking like a calamity.

    Stephen Donnelly ignored 4 letters sent by the North's Health Minister back in November.

    Shambles.

    Have these letters been signed off by the DUP, because if they haven't, there not worth the paper they're written on much less anybodies time including our government?


  • #5303
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Polar101


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Omg 6% of Belmullet's population have tested positive in the last 2 weeks! Wtaf
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-one-in-17-belmullet-residents-tests-positive-in-past-fortnight-figures-show-1.4458712?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Incidence rate of 6,032 per 100k, pretty insane.

    Lowest incidence rate in the country is in Dungarvan (492), but even that rate would have sounded shocking a few months ago.


  • #5304
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Terrible situation seems to be unfolding in Manaus, Brazil.
    This city (of 2.2 million) was hit hard in the first wave, with some speculation that herd immunity had been reached.

    That seems unlikely though, given the severity of infection there now.
    Unless reinfection is a possibility?
    Might this be related to the new strain in Brazil?

    Covid eruption in Brazil's largest state leaves health workers begging for help

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/14/brazil-manaus-amazonas-covid-coronavirus

    EDIT: Wrong thread for this? Is this thread related to Ireland only? Mods please move if so.

    I think your fine igCorcaigh, this thread seems to be general up to date covid information, around the world as well as Ireland.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #5305
    cannotlogin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Omg 6% of Belmullet's population have tested positive in the last 2 weeks! Wtaf
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-one-in-17-belmullet-residents-tests-positive-in-past-fortnight-figures-show-1.4458712?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    How is Belmullet so bad? It's in the middle of nowhere?


  • #5306
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    How is Belmullet so bad? It's in the middle of nowhere?

    Surfing destination, party zone.


  • #5307
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    See 3 idiots decided to drive 80 km from Meath to Dublin to get takeaway burgers. The message obviously hasn't got through some people's skulls.


  • #5308
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55641670
    The Australian Open will start on 8 February at Melbourne Park, three weeks later than usual, because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    Players must test negative before taking one of the 15 chartered flights - which have been put on by tournament organisers and will operate at 25% capacity - to Australia.

    Once they have arrived, they will have to pass a series of Covid tests during a 14-day quarantine in Melbourne before the Grand Slam.

    And then they can't leave their hotel/training area and will only make trips for their games.

    Paranoia on an absolutely whole new level.

    Proper order

    cautious or paranoia who cares!! why throw away high level of normality and risk ending up in the toilet like Europe so a bunch of foreigners can do their job?


  • #5309
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Henley Tangy User wrote: »
    See 3 idiots decided to drive 80 km from Meath to Dublin to get takeaway burgers. The message obviously hasn't got through some people's skulls.

    Breaking restrictions and absolutely wrong but you could have more contact going 1km for burgers than 80km. The question i wonder is were there 3 different households. If they don't care about distance they surely don't care about mixing.


  • #5310
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    George looms like a bird of doom


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  • #5311
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Does George Lee follow trouble or does trouble follow George Lee?


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