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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #5042
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    I wouldn't put too much stock in what the Spectator says tbh, especially in the form of "I understand... draft... being considered... along the lines of..."

    Alistair Haimes, the UK-Variant of Ivor Cummins, writes for them the odd time and it seems their stance is on lockdown skepticism.

    Ah yeah, I'd be skeptical alright of them. Could just be a kite-flying exercise from No 10.


  • #5043
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    vafankillar wrote: »
    Dublin bus timetable being reduced to Saturday timetable from next monday.

    ****ing sick of this ****e. Bad enough being forced to work as an essential worker but now will be stuck waiting around for travel

    You'd wonder the rationale behind reducing frequency when capacity is also meant to be curtailed. Surely it will lead to more people on same buses?


  • #5044
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Eod100 wrote: »
    You'd wonder the rationale behind reducing frequency when capacity is also meant to be curtailed. Surely it will lead to more people on same buses?

    Have heard of a couple of bus garages that have had a number of Covid outbreaks. They may only have the staff to run a more limited service at the moment.


  • #5045
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    HSE briefing has just started.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0114/11...updates-covid/


  • #5046
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Can't tell if this is a joke or not with the way UK is at the minute but apparently one of their new public health ads they've considered is: ''grabbing a coffee can kill''. If it's that unsafe you think you'd close them..!

    Think it's a case of government allowing certain activities and then chastising people when shockingly they engage in them. Seems fairly daft.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/pmqs-starmer-pressures-johnson-over-tighter-restrictions




    UK government have messed up and I am in no way sticking up for them, but a line like that needs some context.


    Perhaps it is just warning people not to become complacent and drop their guards rather than actually targeting "coffee".


    Perfectly reasonable if so.


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  • #5047
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    polesheep wrote: »
    I was thinking more in terms of how people tend to form sides. It's very evident on this site. You can sometimes see people bend over backwards just to remain in line with those that they have been agreeing with, or not to be seen agreeing with those that they have been disagreeing with. It's strange to see intelligent posters do this.

    Yes, I've seen this especially when I have made posts that are severely critical of the vaccine rollout, and certain names crop up time and time again to not just rebut arguments but to reframe what I said as some kind of obnoxious rant or denier of reality.

    The posting history suggests they crop up whenever someone takes the HSE to task over mistakes or contradictions.


  • #5048
    Lawrence Quick Lumber
    Posts: 0 ✭ Lawrence Quick Lumber


    vafankillar wrote: »
    Dublin bus timetable being reduced to Saturday timetable from next monday.

    ****ing sick of this ****e. Bad enough being forced to work as an essential worker but now will be stuck waiting around for travel

    Some jobsworth manager in there must thinking he is doing a great job to save Dublin Bus a few euro whilst doing more societal damage.

    Increased services is what they need to be doing at this time.


  • #5049
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Based on the 7 day number has already peaked and the 14 day rate is likely to start falling within the next few days, so would question that data on the current R0

    Its only a model - but it has been reducing the R value over the last week or so (and its a day old data and its based on poor data reporting by Ireland). In general it tends to be on point, will be watching it as the number continue to drop.


  • #5050
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Amirani wrote: »
    Have heard of a couple of bus garages that have had a number of Covid outbreaks. They may only have the staff to run a more limited service at the moment.

    Ah could play a part too so alright.


  • #5051
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    is_that_so wrote: »
    HSE briefing has just started.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0114/11...updates-covid/

    I had this on in the background, he is so bad at talking. He takes huge breaks in speech and I genuinely thought it was my internet breaking up... until I opened the video. No he is moving, just having a 5 second break between words.


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  • #5052
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Miike wrote: »
    I had this on in the background, he is so bad at talking. He takes huge breaks in speech and I genuinely thought it was my internet... until I opened the video. No he is moving, just having a 5 second break between words.

    Paul Reid?


  • #5053
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Based on the 7 day number has already peaked and the 14 day rate is likely to start falling within the next few days, so would question that data on the current R0




    Numbers from the past 2-3 weeks cannot be judged like-for-like with those earlier in the pandemic.


    Close contacts have not been tested. Even some with minor possible symptoms have not been tested because they have been told it will not affect what they need to do in terms of restrictions. So not everyone is being counted currently.


  • #5054
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Eod100 wrote: »
    You'd wonder the rationale behind reducing frequency when capacity is also meant to be curtailed. Surely it will lead to more people on same buses?
    The rationale is to put on fewer services at a reduced capacity so as to discourage non-essential travel. If busses are frequent people might be more inclined to use them. If they're less frequent, they won't.

    This is why bicycle and scooter sales skyrocketed last May.

    Whether this policy is effective at reducing movement or not, I don't know.


  • #5055
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Stheno wrote: »
    Paul Reid?

    Yep


  • #5056
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Miike wrote: »
    I had this on in the background, he is so bad at talking. He takes huge breaks in speech and I genuinely thought it was my internet... until I opened the video. No he is moving, just having a 5 second break between words.
    Yeah it's not his best format. Some of the others are far better. He's much better in exchanges.


  • #5057
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Don't think this would be too surprising with Varadkar already telling businesses to prepare to be closed until end of March potentially and also if it's tied to vaccinating older people and healthcare workers:

    Said that it will be reviewed by end of month and hoping to give public and businesses a timeline of how long it could take after. Say it will be usual few weeks extension each time as usual though.

    https://twitter.com/willgoodbody/status/1349713816712585222


  • #5058
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Yeah it's not his best format. Some of the others are far better. He's much better in exchanges.

    Listen to be fair I'm not sure I'd be any better. When I have to give presentations or the likes I sound like a dial up modem. I prefer people who take breaks between speech over people who constantly "ammm" or "ehhh"


  • #5059
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    1792 in Hospital, 169 ICU says Reid.

    Close contacts at 3.
    Referrals down 30%.


  • #5060
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/mediaroom/pressreleaselisting/new-sars-cov2-variant
    Another day another variant..this time an American variant. Why is there a new variant in some country every odd week now? Why are they all so concentrated around this period, have countries only began genome sequencing recently since that one was discovered int he UK?


  • #5061
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    is_that_so wrote: »
    1792 in Hospital, 169 ICU says Reid.

    Close contacts at 3.
    Referrals down 30%.

    Good news about referrals.


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  • #5062
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/mediaroom/pressreleaselisting/new-sars-cov2-variant
    Another day another variant..this time an American variant. Why is there a new variant in some country every odd week now? Why are they all so concentrated around this period, have countries only began genome sequencing recently since that one was discovered int he UK?

    Seems to be tied to some of the countries doing the worst UK, SA, Brazil and now US.


  • #5063
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/mediaroom/pressreleaselisting/new-sars-cov2-variant
    Another day another variant..this time an American variant. Why is there a new variant in some country every odd week now? Why are they all so concentrated around this period, have countries only began genome sequencing recently since that one was discovered int he UK?
    Fascinating data here:
    https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global


  • #5064
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    seamus wrote: »
    The rationale is to put on fewer services at a reduced capacity so as to discourage non-essential travel. If busses are frequent people might be more inclined to use them. If they're less frequent, they won't.

    This is why bicycle and scooter sales skyrocketed last May.

    Whether this policy is effective at reducing movement or not, I don't know.

    Possibly, I think if people intend to travel for non-essential they might still but maybe it does discourage. I'd just be thinking it won't change the number of people who still need to travel for essential reasons and mean more of them are on services. Maybe it would balance out though.


  • #5065
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Hard to get a definitive figure but apparently 227,000 people in Ireland work in health and social care of which 69,000 work in hospitals. So I think we could say that the majority of healthcare workers on the front line dealing with infected people have largely been vaccinated by now. And roughly 25% of nursing home residents

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1349724322248744966


  • #5066
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/mediaroom/pressreleaselisting/new-sars-cov2-variant
    Another day another variant..this time an American variant. Why is there a new variant in some country every odd week now? Why are they all so concentrated around this period, have countries only began genome sequencing recently since that one was discovered int he UK?

    I'd say genome sequencing has gone up a bit but I'd also say theres so many more cases at the moment that mutation happens more.


  • #5067
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    NI cases out: https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1349720337957740546


  • #5068
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    1200 staff unavailable for work in nursing home sector!


  • #5069
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Hard to get a definitive figure but apparently 227,000 people in Ireland work in health and social care of which 69,000 work in hospitals. So I think we could say that the majority of healthcare workers on the front line dealing with infected people have largely been vaccinated by now. And roughly 25% of nursing home residents

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1349724322248744966

    This is great. It means all HCW and nursing homes will have received their first dose by the end of this week. The impact this will have on any future trajectory of the infection cannot be overstated.


  • #5070
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Hard to get a definitive figure but apparently 227,000 people in Ireland work in health and social care of which 69,000 work in hospitals. So I think we could say that the majority of healthcare workers on the front line dealing with infected people have largely been vaccinated by now

    GPs would seem the obvious gap here. Many are frontline and are working in Covid Hubs.

    Some have been done with hospital surplus, but still a good few to go.


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  • #5071
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    seamus wrote: »
    This is great. It means all HCW and nursing homes will have received their first dose by the end of this week. The impact this will have on any future trajectory of the infection cannot be overstated.

    I don't believe this will be the case. I have colleagues (HCW) working in the community who are at SIGNIFICANT risk of contracting COVID19, who've been told it will be 4 to 6 weeks before they'll receive the first dose. This cohort would include nurses, doctors, carers and allied health professionals.


    Edit: Just wanted to tack on that these people work with COVID19 positive patients.


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