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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭Denny61


    Yes totally agree about complacency....look at great Britain..people over there too think its all over...normality restored in a few months..they Don't even blink at the record figures every day on the virus..1500 and more deaths today. In the 40thousands of cases every day.on twitter all they care about is bloody football..football and more football..or trump or bloody stupid music or American football....their own people dying around them from.this Panademic..and they don't want to know or talk about it oh god no .shure that's yesterday news so boring..let's talk about other stuff..we not too far behind. And other countries..and in the meantime our front line people in hospitals dealing with all this .seeing seriously ill people day in day out
    People dying and their families can't be with them in their final hours .what has the human race become..we get all desensitised..the world moves on ....god help us

    Mod: Two week forum ban for second breach of your threadban


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    quartz1 wrote: »
    There seems to be sad news of the death of a 39 year old Consultant Doctor in Wexford .

    Didn't see any indication it was COVID related though? Autopsy underway


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Didn't see any indication it was COVID related though? Autopsy underway

    True, results will show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »

    Where's he getting the 272 figure from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit




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    Ficheall wrote: »
    I don't think anyone is trying to shame anyone for catching covid, CS..

    Some recent posts do have a very strong element of 'I told you so' and 'I was very good and you were terrible'.
    There is no doubt in my mind that we are in the middle of a national crisis right now. I'm writing that so as there is no assumption I'm some kind of Covid denier or have my head in the sand.

    Christmas happened. Lots of people threw caution to the wind and lots more didn't. Its reflective of life. Each person has their own risk level and moral compass. Getting angry with those who do different to you is absolutely pointless. Looking back won't change our situation, wanting to hold people accountable won't undo the case numbers.

    Some people will continue to break restrictions. I think it would be wise to accept that's going to happen because we have no power over it.
    Much like Covid. Its here and its doing its thing. Now of course we can control our behaviours and hope that in turn suppresses the virus but we can't just make it disappear.

    Also something interesting about control is when we feel we have none over our lives or aspects of it then we can find ourselves attempting to control others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Ivor Cummins is a charlatan, anyone who actually believed him is an idiot (and there are many). He actually sounds as if he fell off a turnip truck. He has a a science background similar to myself only I’m more Engineering so he knows full well that it’s rubbish he is just clever at manipulating it for his own ends.

    He is basically the character played by Jude Law in the movie Contagion

    Great Movie! must rewatch when all this is over... probably when on the plane to somewhere exotic :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Goes in the biomedical waste bag, burned at 120C.

    This solution been around for years, it’s rapid, portable and it works.

    Does cost a bit to run, but it’s fit for purpose for vulnerable settings where antigen is more gimmick.

    1200°C ... otherwise it would be spewing viruses everywhere!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Datacore wrote: »
    1200°C ... otherwise it would be spewing viruses everywhere!

    That’s what I meant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Also, those who were raising flags to the seriousness on here were not only called doom-mongers, but also told they were hoping the numbers would rise, enjoying it even, just so they could say "I told you so".

    I've become absolutely fascinated with how differently people deal with bad news, grim outlooks, and a crisis like this.
    Yeah they're the ones that pissed me off the most. I basically didn't feel like posting here at the start of December, knowing there's so many trigger-happy types who will shoot me and others down for posting different to their worldview.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    I usually follow the worldometers counter for international Covid figures. In May we were 8th in the world in deaths/million. In the months since we've slid down the rankings. Obviously it was just through other countries overtaking us with their high death rates, as sadly we can't undo deaths which have already happened and reduce our number.

    While it isn't a competition and comparing rates between countries may seem insensitive, I saw our falling down the lists as a bit of a vindication of our efforts and signs that after a very rough start we'd learned some lessons. As of this morning we were 50th but I've a bad feeling about where we're going to be in a few weeks time....
    The lesson that's been learned here is to have as many people tested for covid-19 as possible along with proper contract tracing, something the HSE were particularly bad at at the beginning of the outbreak (where thousands of cases were missed based on the antibody prevalence study subsequently conducted).

    The HSE really did up their game to be able to record and contract trace up to a point where community transmission is so widespread, it becomes almost pointless to trace contacts and you have to lock down instead (which is what happened).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Yeah they're the ones that pissed me off the most. I basically didn't feel like posting here at the start of December, knowing there's so many trigger-happy types who will shoot me and others down for posting different to their worldview.

    Other one that was shot down was the hospitals having issues. We are going back to the start again with hospitals stopping elective procedures and stopping outpatient clinics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Another Dr feeling the need to speak out. No doubt someone will come on here saying he is doing it for a book deal or he should talk to his boss.
    Trying to besmirch Doctors and Scientists is a sport on here. You'd swear it makes people feel better about themselves.

    Anyway people should be held to account on stuff like this. Department of Health say you have to talk to HSE. HSE say you have to talk to department of health. No one is ever held to account for piss poor planning.

    https://twitter.com/jlamber55605930/status/1349499312909275137?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,974 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    UnderReporting of numbers is continuing ..
    Can today's swab discussions please bear in mind the fact that there are just as many unidentified close contacts cases out there at the moment ?

    Numbers are only symptomatic cases , we knew this would cause a levelling off , but hopefully it will be sustained and translate into lower numbers in hospital.



    It is absolute pandemonium in the hospital I work in with staff getting sick and pressure on others to return to work before they are fit .

    It is , as JPLizVI said, way too early to be talking about schools or anything else reopening until we can be past the mitigation stage and back to containment ie adequate test and trace.



    And then there was a very distasteful post about deaths being accrued by Richard Hillman , a propos some sort of manipulation of figures ? :confused:

    After 46 deaths reported...38 were in the first week of January , the other 6 were the last week of December !

    Do people like this not think relatives are registering their loved one's deaths fast enough , at this time ?:mad:





    Figures over last 2 weeks show age groups in hospital / ICU in screenshot below .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Stheno wrote: »
    I saw that on twitter along with a GP in his 40s in Dublin

    May they RIP

    Thoughts for their families

    A nurse in Limerick has died suddenly as well.

    A lot of families going through hell this week.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    Stheno wrote: »
    I saw that on twitter along with a GP in his 40s in Dublin

    May they RIP

    Thoughts for their families

    There was a post here last week regarding that doctors death and the immediate reaction from a couple of posters was "yeah sure, where's the proof" etc..

    They almost where accusing the poster of making it up or like it was doom monging.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    Some recent posts do have a very strong element of 'I told you so' and 'I was very good and you were terrible'.
    There is no doubt in my mind that we are in the middle of a national crisis right now. I'm writing that so as there is no assumption I'm some kind of Covid denier or have my head in the sand.

    Christmas happened. Lots of people threw caution to the wind and lots more didn't. Its reflective of life. Each person has their own risk level and moral compass. Getting angry with those who do different to you is absolutely pointless. Looking back won't change our situation, wanting to hold people accountable won't undo the case numbers.

    Some people will continue to break restrictions. I think it would be wise to accept that's going to happen because we have no power over it.
    Much like Covid. Its here and its doing its thing. Now of course we can control our behaviours and hope that in turn suppresses the virus but we can't just make it disappear.

    Also something interesting about control is when we feel we have none over our lives or aspects of it then we can find ourselves attempting to control others.

    For me personally I think people who threw caution to the wind and decided Xmas was more important than a global pandemic are on a level with drink drivers. They'll attempt to find ways of justifying it but that's the reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,112 ✭✭✭prunudo


    There was a post here last week regarding that doctors death and the immediate reaction from a couple of posters was "yeah sure, where's the proof" etc..

    They almost where accusing the poster of making it up or like it was doom monging.

    From memory that poster was new and while some replies were less than kind, I'm always skeptical when new posters come on with multiple posts in a short space of time which could be precieved as wild claims.
    Rip to those hcw's who have passed while trying to care for others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Small.number of pharmacies in UK giving out vaccines from today. Wonder which vaccine that is? Presume people have to get called for an appointment from one of the priority groups. Hopefully it can happen here too at some stage. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-locations-revealed-of-first-pharmacies-to-offer-coronavirus-jab-12187084?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Yeah they're the ones that pissed me off the most. I basically didn't feel like posting here at the start of December, knowing there's so many trigger-happy types who will shoot me and others down for posting different to their worldview.

    You were told to stay under your bed, trembling in fear, while all the real men and women should be allowed go about their business, which was mostly drain pints and go shopping.

    You were told to cop on, stop fear mongering, spreading NPHET propaganda. You were a bed wetting curtain twitcher. You wanted to destroy the economy.

    Funny, most of these nasty posts have disappeared, along with their writers.

    The famous hugger of faces springs to mind, with the nasty, belittling posts. Nowhere to be found now.

    And those saying “ah, let’s move on, we all made mistakes, let’s work together now” it’s a bit late for that chum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Small.number of pharmacies in UK giving out vaccines from today. Wonder which vaccine that is? Presume people have to get called for an appointment from one of the priority groups. Hopefully it can happen here too at some stage. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-locations-revealed-of-first-pharmacies-to-offer-coronavirus-jab-12187084?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

    The Oxford vaccine has been rolled out there so it's presumably that.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Probes wrote: »
    The Oxford vaccine has been rolled out there so it's presumably that.


    Hopefully its approved and we start getting doses, will be a game changers, same with J&J one if approved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    pc7 wrote: »
    Hopefully its approved and we start getting doses, will be a game changers, same with J&J one if approved.

    Looks like J and J hoping to have data out in next 2 weeks. Unfortunately production relatively slow, will only have 12m doses by end of February but will hopefully ramp up quickly after that. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/health/covid-vaccine-johnson-johnson.html#click=https://t.co/Siv6iE30q6


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    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Ivor Cummins is a charlatan, anyone who actually believed him is an idiot (and there are many). He actually sounds as if he fell off a turnip truck. He has a a science background similar to myself only I’m more Engineering so he knows full well that it’s rubbish he is just clever at manipulating it for his own ends.

    He is basically the character played by Jude Law in the movie Contagion

    Where's my forsythia?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    Probes wrote: »
    The Oxford vaccine has been rolled out there so it's presumably that.

    Nope, watching BBC news this morning, Superdrug in the UK is delivering the Astra vaccine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    For me personally I think people who threw caution to the wind and decided Xmas was more important than a global pandemic are on a level with drink drivers. They'll attempt to find ways of justifying it but that's the reality.

    I did not throw caution to the wind and it is nearly 4 weeks since my last close contact.

    However, do you think it is ok that there will be a narrative that Jonny went to a restaurant, met his uncle and now the uncle is dead is a healthy one to have in communities and families?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Nope, watching BBC news this morning, Superdrug in the UK is delivering the Astra vaccine.

    The Astra Zenaca vaccien was developed by Oxford.

    The previous poster was correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I did not throw caution to the wind and it is nearly 4 weeks since my last close contact.

    However, do you think it is ok that there will be a narrative that Jonny went to a restaurant, met his uncle and now the uncle is dead is a healthy one to have in communities and families?

    Couldn't agree more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    You were told to stay under your bed, trembling in fear, while all the real men and women should be allowed go about their business, which was mostly drain pints and go shopping.

    You were told to cop on, stop fear mongering, spreading NPHET propaganda. You were a bed wetting curtain twitcher. You wanted to destroy the economy.

    Funny, most of these nasty posts have disappeared, along with their writers.

    The famous hugger of faces springs to mind, with the nasty, belittling posts. Nowhere to be found now.

    And those saying “ah, let’s move on, we all made mistakes, let’s work together now” it’s a bit late for that chum.

    Great post, but you are right I too have noticed absence of certain serial posters that had an answer for basically everything .... The online associate Professors of infectious diseases from the University of Retardistan.

    Then those who like to snipe with the snide remarks for the sake of it, we should have legalised abortion in Ireland 40 years ago.


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