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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #4802
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Maybe it’s time to put ‘ I TOLD YOU SO ‘ as a sticky here and then move on. Pages and pages or repeating the same anecdotes.

    people won't stop until the trolls all admit "I'm so sorry, I was wrong, this is awful", which is never going to happen.

    I saw people on 4chan filled with regret because they thought the whole thing was a meme till they lost a family member to it, I don't want that to happen to anyone I want people to come to the conclusion through online arguments


  • #4803
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    blade1 wrote: »
    From today on he shall be known as a right bollocks :pac:( seen as he lost his left one)

    Don't explain your jokes. Trust in yourself!


  • #4804
    mollser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭mollser


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I suppose the nuclear option would have been to completely isolate each home's residents and staff (and staff's families, if they were up for it), have supplies dropped at the gate etc. Guess it wouldn't be realistic to expect staff to do that though...

    Well, as a suggestion, perhaps there could have been bi-daily antigen testing of all persons entering the homes. I believe these will pretty certainly show positive results when people are at the most invectiousness. And results in 15 minutes! Sure, some virus may leak in, but surely they would have caught the worst of the persons bringing in the virus.

    Why this was never even considered an option, on top of weekly PCR testing, will, for me, be the greatest failing of NPHET in managing this crisis. NPHET seem to reject these as not as reliable as PCR - fine, but nobody ever suggested they replace PCR. And given they stopped doing PCR anyway...

    Sure they'll say it wouldn't have worked, well I guess we'll never know - the greatest failing was not even trying - the do nothing approach.


  • #4805
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Maybe it’s time to put ‘ I TOLD YOU SO ‘ as a sticky here and then move on. Pages and pages or repeating the same anecdotes.

    Lots of people seem unable to move on!

    We have all been right and wrong during this epidemic!

    It was wrong not to open up more during the summer months, it was wrong to open up so much this past December.

    Everyone has been right and wrong at some point during this disaster.

    Time to move on and work a road forward.


  • #4806
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Restrictions are simply not working.

    Asking healthy people to give up their jobs, businesses and social lives for a disease that doesn’t impact them just is not sustainable.

    Putting clever steps in place to protect nursing homes is something simple that should have been done 10 months ago and would have cut the deaths in half at least.

    Believing that lockdown is the ONLY solution with thousands of cases a day is bizarre to me.

    How do you suggest protecting the nursing homes then? I’ve seen people come up with ludicrous suggestions on here like making nursing home staff live there and not go home to see their families.


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  • #4807
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,308 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I suppose the nuclear option would have been to completely isolate each home's residents and staff (and staff's families, if they were up for it), have supplies dropped at the gate etc. Guess it wouldn't be realistic to expect staff to do that though...

    Temperature check and antigen test at the door. Every day for everyone and every instance. No exceptions. Let the army do it if we must.


  • #4808
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    I'm so sorry about your neighbor. A healthy friend of a friend at the same age died of "pneumonia" I think it was around last February, they'll never know if it was covid. This thing is so awful.

    Also I hate everyone who feels if you are elderly or if you have diabetes or are receiving cancer treatment etc. it doesn't actually matter when you die. I don't want to hate anyone but I feel so angry. Saying "oh yeah well they had underlying conditions" is incredibly heartless. Everyone has a right to live and age or a disability or a health condition doesn't mean that the rest of us aren't responsible for keeping you safe and shouldn't feel bad if we accidentally kill you because the restrictions were inconvenient

    Three members of my extended family are Type 1 diabetic . Aged 30 , 17 and 8
    I know of an 18 month old and a 3 and half year old who are Type 1 . It most certainly matters to us that they don’t die


  • #4809
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    The Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation has called for all private hospital capacity to be fully nationalised into the public healthcare system, to deliver additional beds and staffing over the coming weeks.

    The 40,000 strong union described the health service as being under "unprecedented" pressure, and noted that current Government plans only provide for the use of one third of private hospital capacity.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0113/1189512-private-hospitals/

    i hope this happens


  • #4810
    SpacialNeeds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭SpacialNeeds


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    The Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation has called for all private hospital capacity to be fully nationalised into the public healthcare system, to deliver additional beds and staffing over the coming weeks.

    The 40,000 strong union described the health service as being under "unprecedented" pressure, and noted that current Government plans only provide for the use of one third of private hospital capacity.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0113/1189512-private-hospitals/

    i hope this happens
    Is Beacon still holding out for more money, does anyone know?


  • #4811
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Arghus wrote: »
    Not half as boring as those who've never been right still posting the same nonsense.

    Limited audience , you think 100’s of thousands are engaged here. The same anecdotal posts are a not new reading experience everyday. All I see is posts trying to outdo each other, highlighting what they the authors perceive as selfishness . Boring was your choice of word not mean but it does for however.


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  • #4812
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    Is Beacon still holding out for more money, does anyone know?

    Was that their reason for holding out? I thought they had some other excuse.


  • #4813
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Henley Tangy User wrote: »
    She's either very very stupid, or self centred to an almost dangerous level. Most people would be absolutely gutted to think their own lack of responsibility had done that much damage.

    people trusted the guidelines too much. They didn't understand that the guidelines were never about keeping individuals safe, they were just about keeping hospitals slightly below capacity

    The government's definition of acceptable risk is that the chances are a small enough percentage of your family be hospitalized that the hospitals won't be full


    your definition of acceptable risk should be that that the chances are that no one in your family will be hospitalized


    that's not clear to people... I've lost a lot of faith in people and gained a lot of respect for Edward Bernays :(:(:(


  • #4814
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    New Zealand now seeing the economic benefits of their zero strategy

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/13/new-zealand-jobs-market-bounces-back-close-to-pre-pandemic-levels


  • #4815
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Limited audience , you think 100’s of thousands are engaged here. The same anecdotal posts are a not new reading experience everyday. All I see is posts trying to outdo each other, highlighting what they the authors perceive as selfishness . Boring was your choice of word not mean but it does for however.


    just as well no one is trying to be entertaining


  • #4816
    Windmill100000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    Got my vaccine today. Did not feel it at all although arm is a little sore now. Let this be the hope we have all been waiting for.


  • #4817
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Deleted User wrote: »
    New Zealand now seeing the economic benefits of their zero strategy

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/13/new-zealand-jobs-market-bounces-back-close-to-pre-pandemic-levels

    They are delusional, Johnny ;)


  • #4818
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Limited audience , you think 100’s of thousands are engaged here. The same anecdotal posts are a not new reading experience everyday. All I see is posts trying to outdo each other, highlighting what they the authors perceive as selfishness . Boring was your choice of word not mean but it does for however.

    No one is forcing you to read it.


  • #4819
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,189 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Limited audience , you think 100’s of thousands are engaged here. The same anecdotal posts are a not new reading experience everyday. All I see is posts trying to outdo each other, highlighting what they the authors perceive as selfishness . Boring was your choice of word not mean but it does for however.

    Just as well you don't take it seriously.


  • #4820
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Windmill100000 wrote: »
    Got my vaccine today. Did not feel it at all although arm is a little sore now. Let this be the hope we have all been waiting for.


    wey hey! congratulations


  • #4821
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Windmill100000 wrote: »
    Got my vaccine today. Did not feel it at all although arm is a little sore now. Let this be the hope we have all been waiting for.

    What's the reception like with the 5g tracking chip? Any good?


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  • #4822
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    5g doesn't track you anymore since that guy in Nashville blew up the AT and T building, you are all free, it's over


  • #4823
    stargazer 68
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    What's the reception like with the 5g tracking chip? Any good?

    Mine is still rubbish. Dont think it turns on until you get the 2nd dose so will let you know in a couple of weeks ;)


  • #4824
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    What's the reception like with the 5g tracking chip? Any good?



  • #4825
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    StevenToast wrote: »
    Im just making the point about the obsession with christmas people seem to have.

    Ive never understood it.....and the one year where people could have enjoyed a nice, quiet christmas by themselves.....they p1ssed it away...

    Tubridy and his like have overhyped christmas to death....

    He has over hyped the Toy Show. There's a difference. He goes on about the Toy Show from the start of September. Maybe it's because it's the only LLS he's comfortable doing.


  • #4826
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    Is Beacon still holding out for more money, does anyone know?

    Some shower. I wouldn't go near that place when this is done.


  • #4827
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Windmill100000 wrote: »
    Got my vaccine today. Did not feel it at all although arm is a little sore now. Let this be the hope we have all been waiting for.

    Congratulations. I’m genuinely jealous


  • #4828
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    I'll make a list of traitor hospitals for .. eh.. if i ever have enough money to go to a private hospital or have health insurance.. it could happen!


  • #4829
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    I went to one shop ONCE, Dunnes to do all my Christmas shopping. I went as early as possible to avoid the crowds in full pandemic regalia.
    That was my Christmas, and I said to myself, lets hope everybody does this and we will be grand. But of course they didn't. They went crazy and partied like it was 1999.
    RIP the 63.


  • #4830
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Is there a breakdown of deaths by age? I see cases by age, and ICU by ages...

    Answering myself, from looking online the median age of death is mid 80's, with over 90% of those with underlying conditions, the most common one being chronic heart conditions.

    I think they've said that a third of the population have underlying health conditions, but maybe a third of the population don't have the most common one i.e. chronic heart condition. So perhaps a third of population not as much at risk of death as that 'underlying condition ' term suggests?


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  • #4831
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,448 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    Is Beacon still holding out for more money, does anyone know?

    Already linked this in a previous reply to you on this topic

    The Beacon didn't sign up as it already has agreements in place for treatment of public paitents and is already treating public paitents, why sign up to a deal when your already doing it under an existing deal ?

    "A spokeswoman for Beacon Hospital said it did not expect to take part in the scheme as it already had in place arrangements with individual public hospitals and the National Treatment Purchase Fund (NTPF) to treat public patients.

    She said about 20 per cent of capacity at the hospital was currently devoted to supporting the public system and about 50 per cent of those in its intensive care facilities were public patients."

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-almost-all-private-hospitals-agree-to-take-public-patients-1.4453208


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