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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    He told them in his speech at the Capitol to march peacefully and after rioting broke out condemned it and told them to disperse. It couldn't be clearer.

    "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

    Here's what he said in that speech, after those comments above. The second quote in the final 30 seconds of the speech.

    Trump: 'We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness.'

    Trump: 'And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Jim Jordan is lying at the moment on the House floor. Lost count of the number of lies he's told.

    I had to wikipedia him to see if he was real.


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He told them in his speech at the Capitol to march peacefully and after rioting broke out condemned it and told them to disperse. It couldn't be clearer.

    "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

    And as part of that speech he justified their behaviour by ranting about election fraud and declared he loves them.. it was a half assed effort to end it. You only got discussions of unity and such the day after when the 25th and impeachment was raised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    He told them in his speech at the Capitol to march peacefully and after rioting broke out condemned it and told them to disperse. It couldn't be clearer.

    "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
    He also told them he was gonna march with them and he didn't so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭What.Now


    He told them in his speech at the Capitol to march peacefully and after rioting broke out condemned it and told them to disperse. It couldn't be clearer.

    "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."


    With a Hint, Hint, Wink, Wink, Nod, Nod. Say no more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    drogdub wrote: »
    There'll be two spin-off shows USA (United States of America) and USM (United States of 'Merica)

    I wonder will the trump children do reality television?

    Tiffany-Survivor
    Ivanka-The simple Life
    Eric-Jackass
    Don Jr.-Celebrity rehab


  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Marlee Breezy Yawn


    Political statements on masks. Stay classy Republicans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Political statements on masks. Stay classy Republicans.

    Same lad has just said that 'the Democrats have won everything in sight and that calls for magnanimity, no vengeance'

    Hypocrisy, thou name is McClintock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Basically the Republicans objecting to the Impeachment are saying: "shur, he has only a week left, what harm?".

    They don't want any accountability since their new found sense of "unity" that they discovered last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    He told them in his speech at the Capitol to march peacefully and after rioting broke out condemned it and told them to disperse. It couldn't be clearer.

    "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."


    On the other hand he also said to fight...


    Our brightest days are before us, our greatest achievements still wait. I think one of our great achievements will be election security because nobody, until I came along, had any idea how corrupt our elections were. And again, most people would stand there at 9:00 in the evening and say, ‘I want to thank you very much,’ and they go off to some other life, but I said, ‘Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.’ And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country any more.

    So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give … The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/11/full-transcript-donald-trump-january-6-incendiary-speech


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,286 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Trump seems to be the one paying the price for actions of others, not sure what standing that has in a court of law. If the speech on the day was so inciteful, surely it would have been called out for that at the time.

    Words like '' fight'' and '' strength '' are used in politics daily. Telling people to go down there and '' cheer'' on those fighting for their cause in the capitol, is a long way from

    '' go down there, hunt down Pence, hang him, and then kill the speaker of the house''

    it's a far stretch from '' cheer on '' to what happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    He told them in his speech at the Capitol to march peacefully and after rioting broke out condemned it and told them to disperse. It couldn't be clearer.

    "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

    If that was all he said, I could agree with you. He said a lot more than that thouhg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Pompeo is a terrible bootlicker.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I'm not sure who is worse - Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham or Jim Jordan. Surely three of the most despicable and cowardly politicians to ever hold public office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Trump seems to be the one paying the price for actions of others, not sure what standing that has in a court of law. If the speech on the day was so inciteful, surely it would have been called out for that at the time.

    Words like '' fight'' and '' strength '' are used in politics daily. Telling people to go down there and '' cheer'' on those fighting for their cause in the capitol, is a long way from

    '' go down there, hunt down Pence, hang him, and then kill the speaker of the house''

    it's a far stretch from '' cheer on '' to what happened.

    Words like “illegitimate President” “We will never concede” and “massive voter fraud” aren’t used in politics all the time, along side repeated calls to “fight” etc. . Well, they are in places like Belarus and Libya, where you’re trying to overthrow a dictator by any means necessary.

    Weird that when they’re used against a democratically chosen president-elect, and there’s a violent seditious response literally minutes later, some people have trouble connecting the two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭What.Now


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    I'm not sure who is worse - Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham or Jim Jordan. Surely three of the most despicable and cowardly politicians to ever hold public office.

    I'd like to get a list from 1-100 of the most despicable. Those 3 would be in the top 5 anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump seems to be the one paying the price for actions of others, not sure what standing that has in a court of law. If the speech on the day was so inciteful, surely it would have been called out for that at the time.

    Words like '' fight'' and '' strength '' are used in politics daily. Telling people to go down there and '' cheer'' on those fighting for their cause in the capitol, is a long way from

    '' go down there, hunt down Pence, hang him, and then kill the speaker of the house''

    it's a far stretch from '' cheer on '' to what happened.

    His speech was called out as incitement on the hour he gave it.

    He stirred up the anger of a massive crowd of supporters with an egregious and utterly unfounded lie, and then told them to go down and gather at the Capitol building, where some of that mob then broke in and ransacked the place, but Trump is innocent of incitement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,202 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Trump seems to be the one paying the price for actions of others, not sure what standing that has in a court of law. If the speech on the day was so inciteful, surely it would have been called out for that at the time.

    Words like '' fight'' and '' strength '' are used in politics daily. Telling people to go down there and '' cheer'' on those fighting for their cause in the capitol, is a long way from

    '' go down there, hunt down Pence, hang him, and then kill the speaker of the house''

    it's a far stretch from '' cheer on '' to what happened.

    Where were you last week? It was called out as he was speaking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Samsonsmasher


    On the other hand he also said to fight...


    Our brightest days are before us, our greatest achievements still wait. I think one of our great achievements will be election security because nobody, until I came along, had any idea how corrupt our elections were. And again, most people would stand there at 9:00 in the evening and say, ‘I want to thank you very much,’ and they go off to some other life, but I said, ‘Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.’ And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country any more.

    So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give … The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/11/full-transcript-donald-trump-january-6-incendiary-speech

    "Clinton carefully avoided inserting herself into the deliberations over how the party should move forward in the Trump era. But ahead of the vote, she published a video urging Democrats to “keep fighting”. “I’ll be right there with you every step of the way,” she said."

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/19/hillary-clinton-return-democrats-trump

    Politicians never use "fight" or "fighting" as a metaphor?

    You are really reaching aren't you?


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Where were you last week? It was called out as he was speaking.

    He’s best ignored. He’s taking the piss at this stage.

    Every single thing he raised in that post has already been addressed and he’s just ignoring it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1349412572886421507?s=20

    The Justin Hammer of stupid orators. "God bless Iron Man, god bless America."

    340?cb=20141204033941


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Trump seems to be the one paying the price for actions of others, not sure what standing that has in a court of law. If the speech on the day was so inciteful, surely it would have been called out for that at the time.

    Words like '' fight'' and '' strength '' are used in politics daily. Telling people to go down there and '' cheer'' on those fighting for their cause in the capitol, is a long way from

    '' go down there, hunt down Pence, hang him, and then kill the speaker of the house''

    it's a far stretch from '' cheer on '' to what happened.

    "You will have an illegitimate president, that’s what you’ll have. And we can’t let that happen."

    "To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal."

    "...they want to steal the election. The radical left knows exactly what they’re doing. They’re ruthless and it’s time that somebody did something about it."

    "Make no mistake, this election stolen from you, from me and from the country."

    "Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about."


    You know exactly what he's saying here and what he was inciting them to do. To pretend otherwise is very dishonest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Trump seems to be the one paying the price for actions of others, not sure what standing that has in a court of law. If the speech on the day was so inciteful, surely it would have been called out for that at the time.

    Words like '' fight'' and '' strength '' are used in politics daily. Telling people to go down there and '' cheer'' on those fighting for their cause in the capitol, is a long way from

    '' go down there, hunt down Pence, hang him, and then kill the speaker of the house''

    it's a far stretch from '' cheer on '' to what happened.


    It was? What are you on about? It was a disgraceful speech. When you add Don Jr whipping the crowd into a frenzy and Rudy calling for "trial by combat", it was absolutely off the charts.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Matt Gaetz is a despicable human being.

    The Republicans showing their true colours here.


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,833 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Trump seems to be the one paying the price for actions of others, not sure what standing that has in a court of law. If the speech on the day was so inciteful, surely it would have been called out for that at the time.

    Words like '' fight'' and '' strength '' are used in politics daily. Telling people to go down there and '' cheer'' on those fighting for their cause in the capitol, is a long way from

    '' go down there, hunt down Pence, hang him, and then kill the speaker of the house''

    it's a far stretch from '' cheer on '' to what happened.

    you are fake news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Ye are probably seeing clips on Twitter of this, AOC's Instagram live, here is the full version just over an hour long..

    https://youtu.be/PBC8LeXb_6s

    Hope everyone that is feeling as traumatized as she looks gets the help they need, the worse part seems to be were even though she's in a secure room she's still feeling unsafe because of certain GOP members that were there and also some Capitol police.. Crazy!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Matt Gaetz is a despicable human being.

    The Republicans showing their true colours here.

    He seems like the worst of all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    When the Congressional leader for the Republican party can call for the censure of Trump but not impeachment you have to wonder where the representatives will fall.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Republicans objections amount to a pile of whataboutery.


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