Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

briany · 13-01-2021 02:23PM

About the Parler leaks - I'm sure it will yield a good deal of information on potential domestic terrorist threats in the USA, but as I remember about Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, they didn't use electronic communication after a certain point, knowing it could be monitored too easily. So, while the Parler breach is positive for security, we shouldn't see it as a home run, and remember that there could be threats organising themselves completely off-grid.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 13-01-2021 02:25PM

This is a good read on where the War on Terror shouldn't go.. quote from Rep llhan Omar. Biden is already calling for more powers to fight terror..

“We should not lose sight of our disgust at the double standards employed against white protesters and Black ones, or against Muslims and non-Muslims,” Omar told The Daily Beast. “But at the same time we must resist the very human desire for revenge—to simply see the tools that have oppressed Black and Brown people expanded.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/after-the-capitol-riots-the-last-thing-we-need-is-another-war-on-terror?ref=home

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 02:26PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Any of Donnie's disciples on here been uploading sh*t on Parler?

You should be able to find yourself here

https://kylemcdonald.net/parler/map/

If nothing else , all this begs the question.

Why are "Conservatives" so crap at IT??

Billy Mays · 13-01-2021 02:26PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Thats really gonna make people brick themselves, I love it

Also gives you the chance to see if you've any d!ckheads living close by

Win-win

VinLieger · 13-01-2021 02:30PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Also gives you the chance to see if you've any d!ckheads living close by

Win-win

Notice the several pips in very close proximity to the US Ambassadors residence in Phoenix park.

None at the Embassy in Ballsbridge though which makes sense considering when the riot occurred. Basically The Ambassador or his personal staff were parler. users

briany · 13-01-2021 02:31PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Also gives you the chance to see if you've any d!ckheads living close by

Win-win

How long does this map take to fully load? I've had it open for the last 10 minutes and the spinny thing is still going in the browser tab.

Muahahaha · 13-01-2021 02:31PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Olympic Gold medalist in swimming Klete Keller was identified by teammates at the riots while wearing his Team USA Olympic jacket and not wearing a mask.

For a while yesterday it was rumoured that Chuck Norris was at the Capitol riots after this picture went viral

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Chuck had to release a statement saying that its not him and that at the time he was at home on his ranch in Texas.

Of course its not him, if Chuck Norris was at the Capitol riots he would be the US President right now.

Gregor Samsa · 13-01-2021 02:34PM

briany wrote: »

How long does this map take to fully load? I've had it open for the last 10 minutes and the spinny thing is still going in the browser tab.

Loads instantly for me.

partyguinness · 13-01-2021 02:34PM

I am curious from a legal perspective with the various organisations severing ties etc. Generally such contracts are water tight and you cannot just walk away unless you comfortably fall into an express contractual provision allowing you to do so.

"We don't like you any more" or "You incited a violence" would not generally be recited in a contract unless it is very very widely drafted which again would be very unusual to say the least.

Plus such contracts would be with the various corporate entities rather than Trump himself personally.

Dressoutlet · 13-01-2021 02:37PM

Billy Mays wrote: »

Any of Donnie's disciples on here been uploading sh*t on Parler?

You should be able to find yourself here

https://kylemcdonald.net/parler/map/

I registered to Parler but never posted anything on it. I just wanted to see the crazy with my own eyes, but I wonder how many were actually watching and agreeing. Irsh FB groups are full of people who speak about Parler

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 02:39PM

partyguinness wrote: »

I am curious from a legal perspective with the various organisations severing ties etc. Generally such contracts are water tight and you cannot just walk away unless you comfortably fall into an express contractual provision allowing you to do so.

"We don't like you any more" or "You incited a violence" would not generally be recited in a contract unless it is very very widely drafted which again would be very unusual to say the least.

Plus such contracts would be with the various corporate entities rather than Trump himself personally.

There'd be clauses in there about "Actions leading to reputational damage" or something like that..

Exactly the same as how Sponsors bail on endorsement deals with Celebrities when they get caught doing stupid things.

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 02:43PM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

I registered to Parler but never posted anything on it. I just wanted to see the crazy with my own eyes, but I wonder how many were actually watching and agreeing. Irsh FB groups are full of people who speak about Parler

I did the same , never posted , never "verified" an account.

Aside from the content being utterly posionous drivel , as a platform is was awful.

Crappy interface and a terrible clunky experience and as we now know the underlying codebase was a complete shambles of security holes and remedial standard technologies.

Christy42 · 13-01-2021 02:45PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

If nothing else , all this begs the question.

Why are "Conservatives" so crap at IT??

Universities and levels of higher education are heavily correlated with being left wing. You don't learn much It in school so that only leaves people who teach themselves and a small % of people who have been taught. Certainly any job I have worked in people have been pretty open with their political beliefs which are pointed one way (and my job would involve coding) but that is Ireland.

I wonder how many are those keeping tabs on it or trolling as well. Certainly would expect at least a few in the Biden administration coming in to be on it to see what the chatter is. Many others could be interested in this as well due to the number of death threats.

nolivesmatter · 13-01-2021 02:48PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

For a while yesterday it was rumoured that Chuck Norris was at the Capitol riots after this picture went viral

Chuck had to release a statement saying that its not him and that at the time he was at home on his ranch in Texas.

Of course its not him, if Chuck Norris was at the Capitol riots he would be the US President right now.

:eek: How is that not Chuck Norris?!

GingerLily · 13-01-2021 02:50PM

Christy42 wrote: »

I wonder how many are those keeping tabs on it or trolling as well. Certainly would expect at least a few in the Biden administration coming in to be on it to see what the chatter is. Many others could be interested in this as well due to the number of death threats.

You'd expect some journalists etc to have accounts to see what's going on.

Seems to be quite a few users in the UK, but it's probably as much as other English speaking countries if you control for population size outside the US

The Inbetween is mine · 13-01-2021 02:50PM

nolivesmatter wrote: »

:eek: How is that not Chuck Norris?!

Chuck Norris hasn't had a line on his face in15 years, Botox is a wonderful thing

Dressoutlet · 13-01-2021 02:51PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I did the same , never posted , never "verified" an account.

Aside from the content being utterly posionous drivel , as a platform is was awful.

Crappy interface and a terrible clunky experience and as we now know the underlying codebase was a complete shambles of security holes and remedial standard technologies.

I don't appear on it so it also takes away the excuse of people who do that say I only looked. I think you had to have posted to get on the map.
Also the clunky experience, I searched the #trump2020 and it took so long to load it felt like I was on dialup

Dressoutlet · 13-01-2021 02:52PM

GingerLily wrote: »

You'd expect some journalists etc to have accounts to see what's going on.

Seems to be quite a few users in the UK, but it's probably as much as other English speaking countries if you control for population size outside the US

Also VPNs from other countries could be used. But as I say I am registered but never posted and do not appear on that map so I assume its only people who posted that are on it

everlast75 · 13-01-2021 02:54PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

For a while yesterday it was rumoured that Chuck Norris was at the Capitol riots after this picture went viral

Chuck had to release a statement saying that its not him and that at the time he was at home on his ranch in Texas.

Of course its not him, if Chuck Norris was at the Capitol riots he would be the US President right now.

Frankly, when I saw the folllowing pic, I figured Chuck was there and absolutely cleaned house...

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1349344643842916353?s=19

The Raging Bile Duct · 13-01-2021 02:55PM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Also VPNs from other countries could be used. But as I say I am registered but never posted and do not appear on that map so I assume its only people who posted that are on it

It seems to be a map of people who uploaded video to Parler.

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 02:58PM

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Also VPNs from other countries could be used. But as I say I am registered but never posted and do not appear on that map so I assume its only people who posted that are on it

That map is created from the Geo-tag data embedded in images uploaded to the site by posters - Which Parler didn't strip or secure in any way of course.

So it won't cover all posters , just those that included a photo in a post.

Muahahaha · 13-01-2021 03:02PM

ITV News Washington Correspondent Robert Moore and his team were the only news crew who filmed the rioters as they stormed Capitol Hill on January 6. Their report shocked America and the world.

An ITV documentary with never-before-seen pictures filmed by the team on that defining day in America airs on Tuesday night.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-12/storming-the-capitol-itv-news-team-who-filmed-pictures-that-shocked-world-reveal-inside-story-of-what-they-saw

ITV screened this documentary entitled Storming the Capitol last night and there was a fair bit of new footage in it. Their camera crew was right there with Q-Shaman guy as they entered the Capitol building and inside it they also spotted members of the Proud Boys who they had filmed before in other states. They came under attack from a Trump supporter at one point too but others held him off, it was hairy stuff. Not sure if its up on Youtube yet but watch out for it as no other tv camera crews were in there, in fact most of the footage we've seen so far has been from this single ITN news crew and then sold off to the other news networks.

In the documentary the journalist Robert Moore spoke about how he has been tracking militia groups in the US for months now, he was showing up at their events and interviewing them. He said he told his editors in London that something major was going to happen on the 6th from all of the online chatter he was seeing on Parler.

This site also got a mention, its the main forum for militias in America to organise and talks about their combat games at weekends. https://www.mymilitia.com/ Just had a browse through it and its kind of funny to see whats popular. Threads on 'Primary Weapons' number nearly 8,000 whereas threads on 'Non-lethal items' just 12. Similarly threads on 'Tactical Operations' are over 3,000 whereas 'Physical Fitness and Nutrition' is just 92. Theres a thread there discussing the banning of Parler and asking if they're next.

yagan · 13-01-2021 03:03PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

That map is created from the Geo-tag data embedded in images uploaded to the site by posters - Which Parler didn't strip or secure in any way of course.

So it won't cover all posters , just those that included a photo in a post.

Just shows what the number one policy of Trump's presidency was, narcissism.

ohnonotgmail · 13-01-2021 03:06PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

For a while yesterday it was rumoured that Chuck Norris was at the Capitol riots after this picture went viral

Chuck had to release a statement saying that its not him and that at the time he was at home on his ranch in Texas.

Of course its not him, if Chuck Norris was at the Capitol riots he would be the US President right now.

if Chuck really was there they would not have needed the IEDs. Chuck could just roundhouse kick the Capitol Building and it would collapse.

seamus · 13-01-2021 03:19PM

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

It seems to be a map of people who uploaded video to Parler.

The locations are a bit too exact to be IP address traces.

I think it's metadata from the videos - when you take a video on your phone, it attaches the GPS data (and a load of other stuff too), so when you upload that video without stripping the metadata, anyone can see exactly where and when the video was taken.

A lot of it is probably just mundane "look at this" stuff, but some of it pinpoints houses. Which has to have people ****ting themselves.

ohnonotgmail · 13-01-2021 03:29PM

seamus wrote: »

The locations are a bit too exact to be IP address traces.

I think it's metadata from the videos - when you take a video on your phone, it attaches the GPS data (and a load of other stuff too), so when you upload that video without stripping the metadata, anyone can see exactly where and when the video was taken.

A lot of it is probably just mundane "look at this" stuff, but some of it pinpoints houses. Which has to have people ****ting themselves.

It is using the metadata from video and pics. Parler did not strip this out when you uploaded unlike sites like twitter and facebook. parler was a totally amateur operation.

everlast75 · 13-01-2021 03:31PM

https://twitter.com/mschwirtz/status/1349083440130490369?s=19

seamus · 13-01-2021 03:36PM

^^
You've got the WhatsApp privacy issues there too, which would have led to loads of people looking for something else.

jill_valentine · 13-01-2021 03:37PM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mschwirtz/status/1349083440130490369?s=19

Could be a lot, but it also coincides with a WhatsApp TOC update a lot of people aren't happy about.

VinLieger · 13-01-2021 03:40PM

seamus wrote: »

^^
You've got the WhatsApp privacy issues there too, which would have led to loads of people looking for something else.

Yup that was my first thought tbh

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