Ultimate Irish Lake Boat

Cienciano · 22-05-2020 10:53pm

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

I do troll yes.
I get what you mean alright regarding the front cuddy.

Cuddy, yeah. I knew cubby looked wrong. Something you can stand up in comfortably, troll in a straight line and have comfortable seats. Irish lake boat seats are designed by a sick bastard who hates people

Lewis_Benson · 24-05-2020 10:35am

Cienciano wrote: »

Cuddy, yeah. I knew cubby looked wrong. Something you can stand up in comfortably, troll in a straight line and have comfortable seats. Irish lake boat seats are designed by a sick bastard who hates people

Yep, they actually arent a great design for the use they get most of the time.
And they are always too narrow at the stern, which is why lads modify them with a fin etc.

I want a boat with roon in it.
And that can go fast without having to be modded.

Akabusi · 12-01-2021 5:11pm

Does anyone have any knowledge of the Redfinn 500 boat? I'm looking out for a boat for Pike fishing and came across these, just don't know of anyone that has one or how they perform.

twin_beacon · 13-01-2021 12:23pm

do you mean the Redfin 5000?
I have never seen one, but a friend of a friend bought one new. He is very happy with the boat, however he had to give half the price of the boat as a deposit, and he had to wait 20 weeks for the boat to arrive instead of the 4 weeks he was told when he paid the deposit.

Akabusi · 13-01-2021 2:28pm

twin_beacon wrote: »

do you mean the Redfin 5000?
I have never seen one, but a friend of a friend bought one new. He is very happy with the boat, however he had to give half the price of the boat as a deposit, and he had to wait 20 weeks for the boat to arrive instead of the 4 weeks he was told when he paid the deposit.

Yes sorry, the 5000. The layout looks good but my main concern would be stability. Good Aluminium boats are seriously expensive so this may be a good alternative.
The company selling them is quite close to me but yeah 20 weeks waiting when 4 promised is not good unless it can be put down to Covid.

twin_beacon · 13-01-2021 3:45pm

I would consider a Motocraft angler 470. They are a Romanian built aluminium boat, 4.7 meters. Michael Conway may even have some in stock, and if not he gets deliveries of them very often. Boat and trailer under 8k for the tiller version of the boat. Michael is very easy to deal with, I've bought a few bits and bobs of him.

https://www.conwayanglingcraft.ie/product/motocraft-angler-4-7m-tiller

My next boat will either be an aluminium or a double skinned polyethylene. If its an aluminium, it would be hard to look past the Motocraft for the amount of times I get out per year. Two of my mates have smart wave boats, they are a double skinned polyethylene boat. I've been very impressed with them, and also the price. They paid around £4k up the north, however with brexit, who knows what those prices will be now.
I'll have to stick with the lake boat for a little longer!

Akabusi · 13-01-2021 6:20pm

Thanks for the suggestion, you now have me looking at the Tangiri :pac:
I'll contact Michael and see what he can do.

twin_beacon · 13-01-2021 7:04pm

Akabusi wrote: »

Thanks for the suggestion, you now have me looking at the Tangiri :pac:
I'll contact Michael and see what he can do.

They are a lovely boat too!

doogie! · 10-04-2021 8:51pm

Just picked up a 17ft Sheelin, what would be a good engine for it? Thinking an 8hp Honda. Primarily trawling lures... budget circa 1500?

Lewis_Benson · 03-05-2021 11:49am

doogie! wrote: »

Just picked up a 17ft Sheelin, what would be a good engine for it? Thinking an 8hp Honda. Primarily trawling lures... budget circa 1500?

If you're looking at Honda, go for the 10hp if you are considering an 8hp, exact same engine with 2 more hp.

doogie! · 03-05-2021 12:45pm

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

If you're looking at Honda, go for the 10hp if you are considering an 8hp, exact same engine with 2 more hp.

Thanks Lewis, I got a new 6HP Yamaha, didn’t have the budget for anything more so will do for now and hopefully upgrade in a year or 2.

Lewis_Benson · 03-05-2021 2:21pm

doogie! wrote: »

Thanks Lewis, I got a new 6HP Yamaha, didn’t have the budget for anything more so will do for now and hopefully upgrade in a year or 2.

Nice one.
Yanaha make great engines.
Where do you fish?

Green Peter · 04-05-2021 1:22am

doogie! wrote: »

Thanks Lewis, I got a new 6HP Yamaha, didn’t have the budget for anything more so will do for now and hopefully upgrade in a year or 2.

The 6 hp yamaha is a nice engine and will hold it's value over the short to medium term and maybe even long term, it will match the 17ft, just be careful not to get caught out on a rough day on the lake with a smaller boat and engine. Best of luck!

doogie! · 05-05-2021 9:37am

Lewis_Benson wrote: »

Nice one.
Yanaha make great engines.
Where do you fish?

North Roscommon, Sligo area Lewis

doogie! · 05-05-2021 9:37am

Green Peter wrote: »

The 6 hp yamaha is a nice engine and will hold it's value over the short to medium term and maybe even long term, it will match the 17ft, just be careful not to get caught out on a rough day on the lake with a smaller boat and engine. Best of luck!

Thanks

Sharkeyb · 19-09-2021 9:35pm

Anyone use a Sheelin 15ft on a smallish Lake for drift fishing for trout , thinking of one as I fish on my own and fed up handling a longer boat .

Doe Tiden · 20-09-2021 9:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117912897#Comment_117912897

Where are you fishing?

might be ok on a smaller lake but you’d want a 19ft for any of the big western lakes or any of the Shannon lakes

twin_beacon · 22-09-2021 9:33am

What are peoples thoughts on the MCA KingFisher? I'm planning on upgrading my 17 foot lake boat, I like the look of the king fisher. Its mainly lure fishing for Pike and trout that it will be used for, I wouldn't rule out going for the "pike fisher" model if I seen on second hand. I plan on putting a 20 (4 stroke) on the back, and leaving it attached to the boat permanently. The transom is very strong on those boats, I don't think it would be an issue, only thing thats concerning me is the the trailers the come on don't seem to allow a transom saver to be attached. I could be wrong though.

Bob411 · 03-12-2021 2:19pm

Hi, really enjoyed this thread so thanks.

Quick question has anyone any experience regarding Melvin boats by Gareth Foley?

Modelled off the burke boats as far as I know.

Its all fly fishing I do so drift capability important for me.

Started looking for a boat but the second hand stock is holding its money so well I'm thinking I would be better off buying new??

Bob411 · 03-12-2021 11:25pm

See in the previous comments that a Lynch boat is very good and a gangly boat is poor in a big wave. What if the ganly boat is made with a Lynch hull ? Maybe stupid question but better to ask lol

diablo9 · 04-08-2022 6:03pm

Just to repeat a question asked by Bob411.Does anyone have information or opinions on Gareth Foley’s Melvin boats?How do they stack up against the Burke boat for example?I’m looking to purchase a lake boat but there is very little on line about this particular manufacturer.Thanks.

sagemaster · 22-08-2022 8:42pm

ive never fished out of one, but I had a good look at one last Saturday on Lough Lene in Westmeath.

they’re a fine looking boat, the finish looks very good and they’re well thought out- much more so that the Sheelin boat, which are a mess to fly fish from and have many issues from the canopy to the poor floor and varnish finish and hollow metal oarpins ..

The Foley boat did look very nice and if I was in the market for a new boat I’d be taking a trip to speak to them

topofthewind · 18-09-2022 11:19am

Great thread this.

Looking for recommendations for a boat as I want to get back into fishing again and want to take the kids out for a few day trips on the river Shannon and local lakes.

I had an anglers fancy with 9.9 outboard for a good few years. Found it very safe and stable on bigger lakes (pike fishing) but was uncomfortable with just the bench seats for spins up the Shannon.

Was wondering what to look for to suit a bit of pike fishing on big lakes, occasional fly fishing and recreational day trips (with a few kids on board) up the Shanon system.

Should I be looking at getting a lake boat or something else?

Budget of €5k to €7k at a push.

Thanks in advance for any replys.

cathal hughes · 01-01-2023 2:35pm

Hi all,

Im in the process of ordering a new DC boat (board higher and slightly wider than standard) what are people’s opinions on pedestal seats?

It’ll be used on the Corrib which I’m very familiar with, but have only ever used boats with traditional board seats.

SafeSurfer · 02-01-2023 10:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119633300#Comment_119633300

There are foldable covers that you can get for lake boats to give protection from the elements which may be a bonus for trips with kids. There are some photos of them on the Arrow Boats website.

Something like an older Orkney boat such as a Strikeliner has a built in cubby and can plane with an outboard of 25/30hp.

They are a good trolling boat and very safe and stable for big loughs but not really suitable for drifting/fly fishing.

SafeSurfer · 02-01-2023 10:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120052380#Comment_120052380

Like everything there are advantages and disadvantages in pedestal vs board seats. Pedestals do make it easier to move around rather than climbing over boards which may be a consideration if you or some of your boat partners are elderly or have mobility issues.

Those DC boats with the comfy pedestal seats do look the the biz though.

twin_beacon · 05-01-2023 4:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118266372#Comment_118266372

Its nearly impossible to get a Lynch boat these days, as they are not being made any more, and anyone that has one won't be in a hurry to part ways with it. They are not without their flaws though, depending on the year of the boat, the timbers are the achilles heel but its not a massive or very expensive job to replace.

I think the lynch is 18 foot, and Ganly have a 17, 18 and 19 foot boat?

My lake boat days are behind me now, as I don't do any fly fishing off the boat I got an open boat with a planing hull. Lot more speed that I was used to on a lake boat, and a lot dryer on a windy day when up on the plane too!

viper123 · 02-02-2023 5:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120052380#Comment_120052380

Good luck with it, just put a deposit on one myself over xmas with the pedestal seats and the higher board

ex-pat returns · 24-02-2023 6:47pm

Hi, firstly, apologies if this is a stupid question. I've recently returned to Ireland, fished for trout with my dad 30+ years ago, trolling & fly from traditional lough boat (Erne & Melvin mostly). I'm looking to get a boat to keep probably on the Erne, have been looking at traditional 17 - 19 ft lough boats, wife has suggested something with a small cabin (a cuddy?) so it could be used for family trips as well. I want to be able to fly fish so what are the problems with this type of boat if drifting? I'd get a small electric engine for controlling drift. Thanks for any advice.

viper123 · 28-02-2023 12:36pm

I doubt there's a boat out there that will do both well. Ive seen lake boats with temporary or canvas cuddies but wouldn't be the best protection and would make the boat a nightmare to drift with

PowerToWait · 19-09-2023 5:43pm

This is an old thread but maybe someone can help. I'm looking at a Tangiri but can't see much online about them. Seem very well constructed, if a little heavy for an alu boat (they use 3mm sheets).

I'm also looking at Motocraft. I could be on the water for a good bit less but then the equipment and build isn't the same. Has anyone here any experience of either boat?

twin_beacon · 20-09-2023 2:59pm

Hi, the Motocraft and Tangiri are very different boats, and different price points. Motocraft is a riveted boat, and the Tangiri is welded, because the Tangiri is welded, it requires thicker aluminium which makes it a heavier, more expensive boat (and more horse power to drive it). What model of Tangiri were you looking at?

Id also consider Breama, also a welded aluminium from Poland, with a similar price point to the Tangiri. Michael Conway from Conway Angling Craft sells both the Motocraft and and Breama, I don't think he sells Tangiri any more.

I seen a few new tangiri boats at a competition recently, they look fantastic on the water.

PowerToWait · 21-09-2023 6:41pm

Thanks for the reply twin_beacon. I did know about the differences in the two boats alright, I'm trying to weigh up the pros and cons of each and add in the price differential to come up with a justification!

I was looking at the Strin 460 or possibly the Space 440 for slightly less money. I saw Brema too, was talking to Michael but I had thought they were pricier than the Tangiri. I think I'd try to buy direct from Poland if I could.

The Motocraft appealed for the keener pricing and light weight. I'm not getting any younger and this would be a long term purchase.

Whereabouts you see the Tangiris, in Ireland?

twin_beacon · 22-09-2023 12:12pm

If its a long term purchase, and if you can afford it, I'd be going for the Strin 460 and put the largest engine it can take on it as they are heavy boats. imo the space 440 is too small, there doesn't seem to be a lot of floor space, but thats just me, each to their own.

The Motocraft is a fine boat too, I was considering buying one myself before I bought my current boat, a Redfinn 5000 which would be in the same category as a Motocraft Angler 470. The only issue I have with boats like these (same with the Sylvan Sports Troller) is that when on plane, only the last meter or so of the boat is in the water. This makes it very bumpy in the seat up the front on a rough day! The larger boat like the Tangiri and Brema sit differently on the water, and aren't as bumpy.

I fished the King of the Lake competition on Lough Ree a few weeks ago, there were a few Tangiri Trion boats there. Lovely boats to put it mildly!

PowerToWait · 22-09-2023 8:40pm

Thanks twin_beacon. I can afford it, but justifying it is another thing, I don't have it lying around as they say. Like you're looking at north of 20k by the time it's fitted out. That's into guiding territory in my opinion, but I suppose it'll hold its value fairly well if I decide I've gone overboard in a few years. I'd also be concerned with how difficult it is to launch and retrieve at 400 kg with outboard.

Those Trions are beauts alright. Go anywhere any weather really. Is your Redfinn a console or tiller? Some weight nearer the bow might help with the ride in the rough?

twin_beacon · 25-09-2023 10:05am

It shouldn't be that hard to load, it would probably be on a bunk trailer, so you'd be driving it onto the bunks. Yea I know what you mean, its a log of money, but they should hold the value well.

Mine is a tiller, I think its just the way the boat planes in the water, fully loaded with a angler in the front seat, bow mount and battery its bumpy up front. Its only an issue in really rough days

bibio · 30-09-2023 1:30pm

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know of some boatbuilders that would repair the timber seats, and keel on an Arrow boat. Anywhere near Roscommon?

Thanks

Bibio

twin_beacon · 02-10-2023 3:33pm

Hi, If you are in North Roscommon, you wouldn't be that far from Arrow boats. If you are more to the south of the county, around the Athlone area you have John Joe Quigley, or William Ganley. I have William's phone number if you want me to pm it on.

Jake742 · 09-11-2023 8:13pm

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Can anyone give me a definite ID what type of boat this is. Its timbers got refurbished recently. Front tank, no rear tank, flat floor apart from rear bilge area. I know it's not a sheelin, burkes have rear tanks. I'd love to know for my own sanity. Thanks

Lewis_Benson · 10-11-2023 12:48am

Could be anything really, just looks like a generic lake boat, although it's very tidy looking.

Nice ship.

Doe Tiden · 14-01-2024 10:11am

Odd question but does anyone here know roughly the overall length of a 19ft lake boat on a trailer? IE from the hitch to the transom, I’ve a parking spot got for my boat and trailer but not sure if it’s too long for it and I’m nowhere near it to measure it today, thanks

con747 · 14-01-2024 5:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121613488#Comment_121613488

This should give you a rough idea but some trailers might be a bit longer or shorter at the hitch, the back will extend beyond the trailer a bit on most trailers afaik so about 3-4 foot at the front should give you a total of 23-24 foot. (Not my boat!)

ROSSKI · 21-03-2024 5:39pm

Looking for a second hand Aluminum boat with engine, trailer and preferably trolling motor, electrics etc,

Something like Tangiri, Alumicraft, Ranger, etc

Has anyone bought anything similar or have any website in the EU that they bough from as the few I see here for sale here

seems to be high price?

Any help welcome - Thanks

twin_beacon · 22-03-2024 11:42am

Have you priced around for a new set up? I see a few for sale second hand on Done deal, but for the prices they are selling for, I wouldn't really want to part with that much cash with no warranty. For second hand in the EU, I would say Holland is probably your best bet, there are Alumacraft and Lund dealers there that will probably have some second hand stock.

Lewis_Benson · 23-03-2024 1:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121925324#Comment_121925324

A lad could buy an auld quigly lake boat and a 9.9 evinrude for a lot less 🤣🤣

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