Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

everlast75 · 13-01-2021 08:37AM

Overheal wrote: »

Christ, he ****ed off of the mainstream for 4 years and now Glenn Beck is crawling back for the next democratic president to spread 4 more years of Nazi Tourette's

https://twitter.com/JeffreyGoldberg/status/1349196502703497219?s=20

https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1349164892830490630?s=20

Ah yes, Glenn Beck aka Crazy Colonel Saunders comes out of the woodwork.

He is a complete charlatan and, for that matter, one of the worst actors I have ever seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmXjxgy6MUo

duploelabs · 13-01-2021 08:38AM

Don Jr under investigation

https://twitter.com/hakeem_jeffries/status/1349112180633980936?s=19

listermint · 13-01-2021 09:07AM

Well this is not a surprise.

https://twitter.com/funder/status/1349209708771618820

rosser44 · 13-01-2021 09:19AM

Ayanna Pressley's COS saying that panic buttons were ripped off out of the congresswoman's office before the Capitol was breached!

Article paywalled (Boston Globe) but quoted here

https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/kwc84i/according_to_chief_of_staff_the_panic_buttons_in/

"As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressley’s office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office. “Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant — not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said."

This is crazy, they wanted mass murder.

everlast75 · 13-01-2021 09:24AM

https://twitter.com/RonanFarrow/status/1349193827937087492?s=19

listermint · 13-01-2021 09:31AM

rosser44 wrote: »

Ayanna Pressley's COS saying that panic buttons were ripped off out of the congresswoman's office before the Capitol was breached!

Article paywalled but quoted here

https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/kwc84i/according_to_chief_of_staff_the_panic_buttons_in/

This is crazy, they wanted mass murder.

The quoted and important bit.

"As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressley’s office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.

“Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant — not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said."

rosser44 · 13-01-2021 09:37AM

listermint wrote: »

The quoted and important bit.

"As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressley’s office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.

“Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant — not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said."

Lolz was editing as you posted:D

Boggles · 13-01-2021 09:39AM

duploelabs wrote: »

Don Jr under investigation

https://twitter.com/hakeem_jeffries/status/1349112180633980936?s=19

Oh dear, won't be pretty when his girlfriend is caught smuggling drugs into prison for him.

tigger123 · 13-01-2021 09:41AM

listermint wrote: »

The quoted and important bit.

"As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressley’s office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.

“Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant — not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said."

As more details come out about the attack, it just gets darker and darker.

Penn · 13-01-2021 09:48AM

Don.Jr wants Elon Musk to create a social media website, because he "...put manned people into space"

https://twitter.com/MattGrippi/status/1349227239150292992?s=19

Replace Capitalism with Democrats and he's not too far removed from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM

ohnonotgmail · 13-01-2021 09:52AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cocaine is a hell of a drug

Smee_Again · 13-01-2021 10:00AM

Penn wrote: »

Don.Jr wants Elon Musk to create a social media website, because he "...put manned people into space"

It's always other people's money, why doesn't Don Junior or Senior front the cash and create their own platform?

Gregor Samsa · 13-01-2021 10:03AM

Penn wrote: »

Don.Jr wants Elon Musk to create a social media website, because he "...put manned people into space"

That's all well and good for sheep-shooting Don Jr. to suggest, but Musk would still have to put the standard legal content limitations and moderation policies in place to comply with the T&Cs of the app stores and web hosts he'd have to use.

listermint · 13-01-2021 10:04AM

Smee_Again wrote: »

It's always other people's money, why doesn't Don Junior or Senior front the cash and create their own platform?

They don't actually have any. It's all a fascade of debt.

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 10:05AM

Now that his political future is in tatters , I wonder will Don Jr revert to his previous "American Psycho Chic" style and get rid of the "Deer Hunter Casual" look he has been sporting in recent years as he attempted to build up his "Hey , Check out my beard and Chinos!, I'm just like you guys" credentials.

Smee_Again · 13-01-2021 10:07AM

listermint wrote: »

They don't actually have any. It's all a fascade of debt.

That's obvious to anyone who wants to see it, but for all those who think he's being censored and is a great businessman how do they explain Don not creating his own platform?

Surely that is the obvious thing for him to do.

positron · 13-01-2021 10:08AM

Penn wrote: »

Don.Jr wants Elon Musk to create a social media website, because he "...put manned people into space"

Like father like son. No filter between his thoughts and cakehole.

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"

Penn · 13-01-2021 10:17AM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

That's all well and good for sheep-shooting Don Jr. to suggest, but Musk would still have to put the standard legal content limitations and moderation policies in place to comply with the T&Cs of the app stores and web hosts he'd have to use.

Given Musk's previous issues with social media, including calling people paedophiles, I don't think that would really bother Musk all that much.

I mean in fairness to Don.Jr, them teaming up with Musk would be a perfect match made in the fiery pits of Hell.

Gregor Samsa · 13-01-2021 10:23AM

Penn wrote: »

Given Musk's previous issues with social media, including calling people paedophiles, I don't think that would really bother Musk all that much.

What I mean is that any new social media platform, by Musk or Trump or anyone else, will have to follow the same T&Cs that got Parler removed, and the same ones that Twitter and FB follow. So there's no real advantage to pumping hundreds of millions into building it, when it's not going to deliver the ability to consistently lie, undermine democracy and organise sedition.

duploelabs · 13-01-2021 10:32AM

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

What I mean is that any new social media platform, by Musk or Trump or anyone else, will have to follow the same T&Cs that got Parler removed, and the same ones that Twitter and FB follow. So there's no real advantage to pumping hundreds of millions into building it, when it's not going to deliver the ability to consistently lie, undermine democracy and organise sedition.

Given what's been told about the architecture of Parler, it really seems like a trump project from the ground up. However if you were to create something to entrap those far right nuts, they couldn't have done a better job

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archived-parler-explains-how-she-did-it-and-what-comes-next

"donk_enby was able to scrape and capture and archive nearly the entire content of the website after it became clear that hundreds of Trump supporters had uploaded potentially incriminating photos and videos of themselves to the platform, many filming from inside the Capitol itself "

storker · 13-01-2021 10:43AM

Penn wrote: »

Don.Jr wants Elon Musk to create a social media website, because he "...put manned people into space"

Unmanned people would be cheaper, surely...

robinph · 13-01-2021 10:44AM

duploelabs wrote: »

Given what's been told about the architecture of Parler, it really seems like a trump project from the ground up. However if you were to create something to entrap those far right nuts, they couldn't have done a better job

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archived-parler-explains-how-she-did-it-and-what-comes-next

"donk_enby was able to scrape and capture and archive nearly the entire content of the website after it became clear that hundreds of Trump supporters had uploaded potentially incriminating photos and videos of themselves to the platform, many filming from inside the Capitol itself "

Was anticipating a request to be made to Google/ Apple to access maps location data of any mobile phones that were in the vicinity of the Capitol last Wednesday. That legal battle has been averted though thanks to the idiocy of the participants and the incompetence of the services they were using to co-ordinate their activities, and to brag about them afterwards (see idiocy of participants). Have already seen a map overlaid with location data of pictures posted to parler that someone has created from the downloaded data, once that is all linked up with the evidence that they have created to show their own crimes it all becomes far easier to deal with.

It's terrifying what they very nearly managed to accomplish last week, but their lack of brain cells seems to be about all that saved it going that badly. The lack of braincells will also make the job of finding the people involved far easier though.

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 10:49AM

robinph wrote: »

Was anticipating a request to be made to Google/ Apple to access maps location data of any mobile phones that were in the vicinity of the Capitol last Wednesday. That legal battle has been averted though thanks to the idiocy of the participants and the incompetence of the services they were using to co-ordinate their activities, and to brag about them afterwards (see idiocy of participants). Have already seen a map overlaid with location data of pictures posted to parler that someone has created from the downloaded data, once that is all linked up with the evidence that they have created to show their own crimes it all becomes far easier to deal with.

It's terrifying what they very nearly managed to accomplish last week, but their lack of brain cells seems to be about all that saved it going that badly. The lack of braincells will also make the job of finding the people involved far easier though.

Doesn't that statement pretty much sum up the entire Trump Presidency??

MadYaker · 13-01-2021 10:51AM

Can they really get a senate trial done and dusted before Biden is sworn in?

duploelabs · 13-01-2021 10:52AM

robinph wrote: »

Was anticipating a request to be made to Google/ Apple to access maps location data of any mobile phones that were in the vicinity of the Capitol last Wednesday. That legal battle has been averted though thanks to the idiocy of the participants and the incompetence of the services they were using to co-ordinate their activities, and to brag about them afterwards (see idiocy of participants). Have already seen a map overlaid with location data of pictures posted to parler that someone has created from the downloaded data, once that is all linked up with the evidence that they have created to show their own crimes it all becomes far easier to deal with.

It's terrifying what they very nearly managed to accomplish last week, but their lack of brain cells seems to be about all that saved it going that badly. The lack of braincells will also make the job of finding the people involved far easier though.

Well they don't even need to go to apple/Google for that information. The capitol is constructed from extremely thick walls, and anyone who's lived in an old house will tell you, those thick walls absorb a lot of cellular network so as its essential to have signal inside, they have a very big WiFi network with Bluetooth beacons to bridge that impedance inside those buildings, which in turn will harvest all those imei numbers from those inside the capitol buildings.

Ouch

ohnonotgmail · 13-01-2021 10:52AM

MadYaker wrote: »

Can they really get a senate trial done and dusted before Biden is sworn in?

they dont have to. If McConnell refuses to hold a trial they can wait until the new senators are sworn in and hold the trial then.

The Raging Bile Duct · 13-01-2021 10:53AM

MadYaker wrote: »

Can they really get a senate trial done and dusted before Biden is sworn in?

They don't need to as far as I can tell.

Quin_Dub · 13-01-2021 10:55AM

MadYaker wrote: »

Can they really get a senate trial done and dusted before Biden is sworn in?

No - Not a chance.

The Senate is in recess until the 19th.

The open question seems to be whether it is constitutional for them to continue with the impeachment after he has left office.

The section of the Constitution dealing with impeachment talks about "The Incumbent" which seems to suggest that it only applies while the person is in office. However there are several precedents where a Judge and a Senator were impeached after they left office.

tl;dr

It will go ahead and if he's actually convicted in the Senate he *might* have a case to take to SCOTUS over it's legal standing.

duploelabs · 13-01-2021 10:55AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they dont have to. If McConnell refuses to hold a trial they can wait until the new senators are sworn in and hold the trial then.

Well McConnell seems to have changed his tune overnight, so there's a stronger possibility of it happening

Gregor Samsa · 13-01-2021 10:56AM

MadYaker wrote: »

Can they really get a senate trial done and dusted before Biden is sworn in?

In any practical sense, no. The Senate is not in session until the 19th. Inauguration day is the 20th. So the likelihood is that it will either it will be quickly shut down by Republicans in the Senate like last time (they refused to hear any evidence, and just went straight to voting for acquittal), or it will remain unresolved before Inauguration.

Some are saying the trial can continue after Trump leaves office - there's a lot of opinion around, and not much certainty, so I don't know if this is true or not.

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