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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #4472
    Summer2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    Beasty wrote: »
    My wife was tested on Saturday, informed she was positive on Sunday, but the 4 of us who are close contacts are not getting tests unless we show symptoms (none of us have to date). Would imagine that has not changed over the past 48 hours.

    A lot of close contacts are falsifying symptoms in order to get a test. I’d personally like to know if I had it if someone in my household was positive.


  • #4473
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    Fingers, toes and anything else that can be is crossed for you, hope you all come out the other side without problems.

    Thanks. The wife has been a bit under the weather. I suspect she may not even be contagious now, but any of us could by asymptomatic. So far no real worries.


  • #4474
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    A lot of close contacts are falsifying symptoms in order to get a test. I’d personally like to know if I had it if someone in my household was positive.
    It doesn't change much. If they test negative they are still under their original 14 day "lockdown". If positive it's isolation until 10 days after first symptoms.


  • #4475
    The HorsesMouth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    A lot of close contacts are falsifying symptoms in order to get a test. I’d personally like to know if I had it if someone in my household was positive.

    I can neither confirm or deny that that might have been done by me...


  • #4476
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭maebee


    Beasty wrote: »
    My wife was tested on Saturday, informed she was positive on Sunday, but the 4 of us who are close contacts are not getting tests unless we show symptoms (none of us have to date). Would imagine that has not changed over the past 48 hours.

    Similar situation in our family. Son & his gf tested positive on Jan 2nd. We couldn't get tested as (very)close contacts. They hardly had a sniffle. I'm sure it will be the same for your wife. All the best.


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  • #4477
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    A lot of close contacts are falsifying symptoms in order to get a test. I’d personally like to know if I had it if someone in my household was positive.

    Yes my doctor knows of patients that have done that

    Once they mention symptoms it's straight to book them for a test


  • #4478
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yes my doctor knows of patients that have done that

    Once they mention symptoms it's straight to book them for a test

    Will they still do it if they are then down the list on getting a vaccine?


  • #4479
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yes my doctor knows of patients that have done that

    Once they mention symptoms it's straight to book them for a test

    What do they gain? They still have to isolate regardless of the test.


  • #4480
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Your man Ryan from the WHO said it was not due to the new variant.

    Funny, I just read this article before reading your comment:

    "The seasonality of the virus, the presence of the more transmissible UK variant, and households mixing over the holidays all contributed to the surge, according to a spokesperson from Prime Minister (:pac:) Micheál Martin's office."

    "The more contagious UK variant, discovered in Ireland for the first time on Christmas Day, "had a very significant impact [on] the growth of cases because it is believed to be between 50% and 70% more transmissible," the spokesperson added."

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/europe/ireland-covid-rate-intl/index.html


  • #4481
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    What do they gain? They still have to isolate regardless of the test.

    Peace of mind?

    I think I'd like to know personally

    Plus it's 4 days less isolation


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  • #4482
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Will they still do it if they are then down the list on getting a vaccine?

    Fair point but they haven't officially changed policy in that direction yet

    Just thinking about it


  • #4483
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    fits wrote: »
    For some families the risks associated with losing services are greater than the risks associated with covid.

    No one knows exactly how effected they will be to this virus until they get it. We know risk factors associated with a poor outcome but they don't hold through for every case. It's not something to be flippant about.


  • #4484
    OscarMIlde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    Deplorable state of services is only the thin end of the wedge, a massive number of people who should be providing diagnosis and related support services to young (under 6) Autism cases have been redeployed to do things like contact tracing for Covid, with the result that there's a massive backlog of cases that really should not be being ignored, as the early years are critical to trying to develop basic learning skills for this group. It was meant to be a short term thing, but we all know how that has turned out.

    It's going to take a long time to get things back to normal, whatever that is these days, and the real tragedy is that the window of opportunity to get some children off to a good start wil have been missed, and there's no way to wind the clock back, they will suffer as a result for the rest of their time in education.

    It's not as high profile as things like cancer, so not getting the publicity, but for the indivuduals affected, it's every bit as damaging as a delayed cancer diagnosis, and will affect their entire lives.

    I have a 40 year old non-verbal autistic brother, I don't need to be lectured about autism. I know all about it, I've lived my entire life with it. The fact is, that as upsetting as this may be, containing covid within the community while levels are this high, takes priority over missing a few months of education. This is for the health and safety of all, including people with autism and their families.


  • #4485
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    So it looks like majority clinic workers are refusing to take vaccine where my spouse works. The owner was furious about that. Some vaccine = toxin crap and immunity is strong enough for any virus mumbo jumbo justification.

    History repeats.


  • #4486
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Funny, I just read this article before reading your comment:

    "The seasonality of the virus, the presence of the more transmissible UK variant, and households mixing over the holidays all contributed to the surge, according to a spokesperson from Prime Minister (:pac:) Micheál Martin's office."

    "The more contagious UK variant, discovered in Ireland for the first time on Christmas Day, "had a very significant impact [on] the growth of cases because it is believed to be between 50% and 70% more transmissible," the spokesperson added."

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/europe/ireland-covid-rate-intl/index.html

    I think they are now conceding that it was a factor. Talk to people outside Dublin and they will point to clusters arising from people coming back.

    Yes it was mixing in households, yes it was hospitality, yes it was travel between counties, but it was also this variant as otherwise it would not be here and becoming more prevalent (or am I wrong on that?).


  • #4487
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Fair point but they haven't officially changed policy in that direction yet

    Just thinking about it

    Even mulling it over publicly may have an effect.


  • #4488
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Renjit wrote: »
    So it looks like majority clinic workers are refusing to take vaccine where my spouse works. The owner was furious about that. Some vaccine = toxin crap and immunity is strong enough for any virus mumbo jumbo justification.

    History repeats.

    Can the employer do anything?


  • #4489
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Please Christ, the figures come down within next 14 days, My uncle is in ICU (non covid tested negative twice) in Vincents he was given 24hrs at 10 am today. The ward isn't answering. I was talking to the patient info chap, when I mentioned his name he knew of him immediately. Couldn't say anything told me to keep trying the ward, 5 hrs no one picking up. I understand they are so busy no worries.

    I asked him, what's it like man. He said "it's very very bad, and very negative in the hospital, yes all the staff are pluging away. I get up and walk to the loo and I see nurses crying"

    They expect a bang in the next two weeks hitting ICU.


  • #4490
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    76.1 over 55
    89.1 over 45
    approx 10% under 45
    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    I've read this bouncing over and back all evening. What's the point being made?

    The poster is adding further clarity to the figures.

    I don’t think the point being made is that concealed


  • #4491
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Even mulling it over publicly may have an effect.

    It might in fairness

    I can't see them changing tack with regards to nursing homes and HCWs even if they have had COVID previously


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  • #4492
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    What do they gain? They still have to isolate regardless of the test.

    Not helping if they are looking for a proper idea of how many people are infected.
    R number means feck all if they are not testing known close contacts.


  • #4493
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    This is incredible if true (and I believe it is).
    Is there possibly a link to something specific to Ireland? I have seen young covid deaths in other countries.

    https://twitter.com/indepdubnrth/status/1349127741329825799


  • #4494
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Can the employer do anything?

    I hope not. We can't force people to take vaccines.


  • #4495
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    It might in fairness

    I can't see them changing tack with regards to nursing homes and HCWs even if they have had COVID previously

    I don’t think it is workable.


  • #4496
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Can the employer do anything?

    I don't know that. Employer was trying to arrange vaccination for everyone in the clinic.


  • #4497
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Renjit wrote: »
    I don't know that. Employer was trying to arrange vaccination for everyone in the clinic.

    My guess is that one person is probably stirring on this.

    I am not sure what the employer can do but it is interesting whether an employers body will provide guidance. Maybe they only allow for statutory sick pay if a Covid absence but I suspect those types of measures will only be possible once the full population has been offered the vaccine.


  • #4498
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Are hospital evening numbers due around now?


  • #4499
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    I don’t think it is workable.

    what is?


  • #4500
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    normanoffside wrote: »
    This is incredible if true (and I believe it is).
    Is there possibly a link to something specific to Ireland? I have seen young covid deaths in other countries.

    https://twitter.com/indepdubnrth/status/1349127741329825799

    If he's going off these figures he may have misinterpreted the data. The section 15-24 doesn't have 0 but < 5 deaths. I suspect it is the data he's using because the case number total tallies with it.

    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries18/


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  • #4501
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Arduach wrote: »
    Are hospital evening numbers due around now?

    Varies might not be out till tomorrow


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