46 houses in Mungret sold for €11m

Car99 · 11-01-2021 01:16PM

Granadino wrote: »

Wait until they hear about Irish Cement...

Tell us

MarkR · 11-01-2021 03:16PM

Irish Cement were looking for a permit to burn other types of fuel, I think including rubbish? Someone from the area might be better to fill you in. There was also something about red dust coming from it.

Car99 · 11-01-2021 05:26PM

MarkR wrote: »

Irish Cement were looking for a permit to burn other types of fuel, I think including rubbish? Someone from the area might be better to fill you in. There was also something about red dust coming from it.

Were they looking to incinerated used tyres I thinkni remember something about that from a few years back

Granadino · 11-01-2021 06:56PM

There's a thread all about it. How come they built the factory so close to those houses....

11-01-2021 07:32PM

colmtheperson wrote: »

Should have been more clear - I meant insanely low (for the price of a new build in Limerick)

Add 13.5% VAT as they are new builds, brings them up to 270,000 odd which is about right if you assume there was a discount on them.

Not sure why this is news either. There has been a Rebuilding Ireland sign outside Mungret Gate for nearly 2 years. This section was built specifically for social housing under that scheme, another one being the place out the Clonmacken Road. It was built specifically for the Cooperative Housing Ireland Society, they didn’t just swoop in and buy them before they came to the market.

PS 46 is just the first part of Baunacloka Heights for social housing, there’s an additional 25 to be purchased too.

boetstark · 11-01-2021 11:36PM

Granadino wrote: »

There's a thread all about it. How come they built the factory so close to those houses....

It's a 50 year old cement factory. They have applied for a licence to burn 60 waste products including tyres, paint, animal waste. Council and board pleannala gave permission its appealed to epa at present. When they were using fossil fuels same kilns were spewing dust over our houses regularly. Now they want to use them for incineration.
Mungret raheen used to be a lovely area. It didn't even require a local guards station. It's gonna be a hellhole in 10 years.
Irish politicians and civil servants have a unique skill at wreaking things.

boetstark · 11-01-2021 11:41PM

Mungret Native wrote: »

Add 13.5% VAT as they are new builds, brings them up to 270,000 odd which is about right if you assume there was a discount on them.

Not sure why this is news either. There has been a Rebuilding Ireland sign outside Mungret Gate for nearly 2 years. This section was built specifically for social housing under that scheme, another one being the place out the Clonmacken Road. It was built specifically for the Cooperative Housing Ireland Society, they didn’t just swoop in and buy them before they came to the market.

PS 46 is just the first part of Baunacloka Heights for social housing, there’s an additional 25 to be purchased too.

I live nearby, is it another 26 for local authority or Co op housing getting another 26. And a big social housing estate going at rear of Grange, might not get planning though

11-01-2021 11:49PM

boetstark wrote: »

I live nearby, is it another 26 for local authority or Co op housing getting another 26. And a big social housing estate going at rear of Grange, might not get planning though

The other 26 is for the same cooperative. The full list is here... rebuildingireland.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Construction-Status-Report-Q2-2020.pdf

These 46+25 are at the back of the new part of the Grange. Are you sure you’re not mixing up the two? There is no other planning application in for anywhere else near The Grange.

boetstark · 12-01-2021 12:09AM

Mungret Native wrote: »

The other 26 is for the same cooperative. The full list is here... rebuildingireland.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Construction-Status-Report-Q2-2020.pdf

These 46+25 are at the back of the new part of the Grange. Are you sure you’re not mixing up the two? There is no other planning application in for anywhere else near The Grange.

I'm sure. Look at Limerick council website planning. File 201430. 2 phases 198 units. Duplexes and terrace plus 3 5 story apartment blocks. I live nearby, disgusted....

Cookiemunster · 12-01-2021 10:13AM

boetstark wrote: »

It's a 50 year old cement factory. They have applied for a licence to burn 60 waste products including tyres, paint, animal waste. Council and board pleannala gave permission its appealed to epa at present. When they were using fossil fuels same kilns were spewing dust over our houses regularly. Now they want to use them for incineration.

I think Granadino is well aware of that. And it's actually there over 80 years.

MarkR · 12-01-2021 10:53AM

I don't want this to get into social housing bashing (although that would be a refreshing change from travelers). Housing is a big issue in Ireland, and sweeping generalizations like we are seeing in this thread don't help. Please be aware that in any scenario, a small group of people causing problems should not be a cause to tar all with the same brush.

Thanks

boetstark · 12-01-2021 11:00AM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

I think Granadino is well aware of that. And it's actually there over 80 years.

Well actually, if he was well aware why was the question asked " why was the factory built so close to houses".
Actually the kilns are 45 years old.

boetstark · 12-01-2021 11:03AM

MarkR wrote: »

I don't want this to get into social housing bashing (although that would be a refreshing change from travelers). Housing is a big issue in Ireland, and sweeping generalizations like we are seeing in this thread don't help. Please be aware that in any scenario, a small group of people causing problems should not be a cause to tar all with the same brush.

Thanks

There is good and bad in every area of society. Unfortunately with so much social housing in this area the potential is there for tro down the line.
Anyway plan b is on standby, getting out before house values drop through the floor

MarkR · 12-01-2021 11:16AM

boetstark wrote: »

Well actually, if he was well aware why was the question asked " why was the factory built so close to houses".
Actually the kilns are 45 years old.

I think it's probably a joke akin to the standard questions from visitors to bunratty castle.

Why did they build it so close to the highway?

boetstark · 12-01-2021 11:46AM

MarkR wrote: »

I think it's probably a joke akin to the standard questions from visitors to bunratty castle.

Why did they build it so close to the highway?

Apologies to all, thought I was being lectured

grassylawn · 12-01-2021 11:59AM

The protests about Irish Cement focus on the switch to other types of fuel, instead of coal. That might be beside the point though.

In theory, it should work well because it should burn fuel at such high temperatures that everything is burned, and there is very little smoke or other emissions.

They have a questionable record though. They didn't take responsibility for a load of dust that appeared in a radius around them a few years ago, but did offer free car washes iirc.

However it has been decided that they should be responsible for monitoring themselves. That would be a bad idea even if their record was squeaky clean.

Aside from anything specific to Irish Cement, it is less than ideal to have a cement factory in the middle of a residential area. It looms over a nice park and some primary schools as well as housing estates. From what I have read, small children shouldn't spend lots of time in the vicinity of cement factories.

There are some defensive attaitudes about the topic, since the plant was there before the residential area sprung up around it.

Terrible planning, whatever way you look at it.

Red Silurian · 12-01-2021 12:43PM

Mungret Native wrote: »

Add 13.5% VAT as they are new builds, brings them up to 270,000 odd which is about right if you assume there was a discount on them.

Even 270k is cheap these days for a new build when you consider there's a mix of housing in there some are 4-beds some are 3-beds

Plus won't the co-operative housing society be able to claim their VAT back?

Granadino · 12-01-2021 12:59PM

Not to go into Irish Cement bashing, as it has been responsible for paying for a lot of my childhood,adulthood and more, but if there are ongoing issues with emissions, why are new houses being built in the vicinity? I doubt the factory is going to up sticks anytime soon....?

boetstark · 12-01-2021 01:40PM

Granadino wrote: »

Not to go into Irish Cement bashing, as it has been responsible for paying for a lot of my childhood,adulthood and more, but if there are ongoing issues with emissions, why are new houses being built in the vicinity? I doubt the factory is going to up sticks anytime soon....?

Very good point, poor planning and from experience none of planners in Limerick council live nearby.

12-01-2021 04:26PM

colmtheperson wrote: »

Even 270k is cheap these days for a new build when you consider there's a mix of housing in there some are 4-beds some are 3-beds

Plus won't the co-operative housing society be able to claim their VAT back?

All the houses in Baunacloka Heights are 3 bed. There’s a mix of semis and terraces, but they’re all 3 bed.

I can’t answer that, I’m not an accountant.

mitresize5 · 13-01-2021 08:58PM

Will these be fully fitted out put the coop society as well.

Most new builds are a builders finish. Lots of additional cost needed to get the habitable

Skodafan · 24-02-2021 08:58PM

Seen most tenants collected Keys here yesterday.

Already several youngsters flying around on electric scooters, bikes abandoned in green areas, polka dot and leopard print curtains.

And 1 very prominent limerick undesirable moving furniture into a house up there.

peckerhead · 24-02-2021 09:03PM

I take it you won't be calling around with homemade carrot cake?

30-03-2021 10:26PM

Skodafan wrote: »

Seen most tenants collected Keys here yesterday.

Already several youngsters flying around on electric scooters, bikes abandoned in green areas, polka dot and leopard print curtains.

And 1 very prominent limerick undesirable moving furniture into a house up there.

Aye, I understand the absolute dregs of Limerick society have been moved into this estate. It's going to turn into a Ghetto, I definitely wouldn't go within an asses roar of Mungret Gate if I was buying currently, because of this new estate just behind/beside it. I do pity the poor young couples that bought there before they even heard of Baunacloka Heights.

46 houses in Mungret sold for €11m

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