Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Tell me how · 12-01-2021 04:08AM

newhouse87 wrote: »

im talking about the looks of some of these people tbh, seen some mad looking people at left wing protests aswel, all unhinged at far reaching ends of of both political spectrums imo

Can you give us an example.

Before you do, we've all seen the ladies bawling their eyes out and screaming 'not my President' but, can you point to a comparable cast of characters as what we saw last week and indeed over the last 12 months or so (including the President, his attorney, his press officer, and several elected representatives from his party) in this also.

newhouse87 · 12-01-2021 04:14AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Can you give us an example.

Before you do, we've all seen the ladies bawling their eyes out and screaming 'not my President' but, can you point to a comparable cast of characters as what we saw last week and indeed over the last 12 months or so (including the President, his attorney, his press officer, and several elected representatives from his party) in this also.

thought the girl that was screaming "i will **** you up" at a senator think it was rand paul looked unhinged to me but hey that's just my opinion.

Tell me how · 12-01-2021 04:15AM

newhouse87 wrote: »

thought the girl that was screaming "i will **** you up" at a senator think it was rand paul looked unhinged to me but hey that's just my opinion.

Now quite a comparable cast though is it?

newhouse87 · 12-01-2021 04:17AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Now quite a comparable cast though is it?

I was literally replying to the pic of the right wing horned guy. Simple point that both ends have extreme characters that's all.

Quantum Erasure · 12-01-2021 05:11AM

Overheal wrote: »

He dresses up well

and keeps INTERESTING company

Yeah, the hat suits him

Dressoutlet · 12-01-2021 07:30AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Now quite a comparable cast though is it?

I don't think it needs to be like for like. I'm very Liberal but I cannot stand the far left as much as I cannot stand the far right. We can condemn them both without an apples for apples comparison. I can support BLM and condemn people who burnt buildings down, and if a person tells me that I can't, that I either support it all or none, or I have no right to tell people how to feel and I'm part of the problem, then they are guilty of the same thing as the far right. Because that's how they get people. Video after video of someone saying this and your quickly in a Radicalised situation. I'm saying this because I was that person who said these things after watching video after video on tik Tok of people telling me condemning the violence made me as bad as the Right wingers

That all said, I don't think the BLM rallies, even the most violent parts, are in any way comparable to Jan 6th , but my point is we can condem the extreme behaviours of both sides even if one situation is worse than the other

Tony EH · 12-01-2021 07:37AM

Tell me how wrote: »

I don't know if Biden has the authority, but, if he can decide who can attend his inauguration, I really hope Ivanka is left at home.

https://twitter.com/robcrilly/status/1348744790557519874

Do not let her get even a fraction of an opportunity to appear magnanimous, or diplomatic so she can use it in a campaign promo in ten years when she thinks everyone has forgotten.

How the fuck can Ivanka Trump have a "promising political career"?

joe40 · 12-01-2021 07:41AM

Tony EH wrote: »

How the fuck can Ivanka Trump have a "promising political career"?

I would have said the same about Donald Trump in 2014.
It is hard to apply logic and reason to large swathes of the American electorate.

Cody montana · 12-01-2021 07:45AM

Tony EH wrote: »

How the fuck can Ivanka Trump have a "promising political career"?

She barged into a conversation with EU leaders and nodded her head.

Cody montana · 12-01-2021 07:46AM

joe40 wrote: »

I would have said the same about Donald Trump in 2014.
It is hard to apply logic and reason to large swathes of the American electorate.

Would trump supporters back a Jewish woman?

joe40 · 12-01-2021 07:52AM

Cody montana wrote: »

Would trump supporters back a Jewish woman?

I don't know. I can see no redeeming features about Ivanka Trump. She is purely mercenary and has displayed zero political intelligence.
Anyone with an iota of sense would see through her.
My fear is that the republican party and supporters are so far past reason, intelligence and decency that it is hard to predict what will happen.
She certainly does not deserve a political career after this.

Overheal · 12-01-2021 07:54AM

The Belichick statement

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErfeEl_XUAEYMOt?format=jpg&name=900x900

Interesting fact: me, him, and Mark Bingham - one of the Flight United 93 counter-hijackers, all pledged the same fraternity. Somehow, I don't think Bingham's sacrifice to defend the US Capitol on 9/11 has been lost on Brother Belichick.

pjohnson · 12-01-2021 08:04AM

joe40 wrote: »

I don't know. I can see no redeeming features about Ivanka Trump. She is purely mercenary and has displayed zero political intelligence.
Anyone with an iota of sense would see through her.
My fear is that the republican party and supporters are so far past reason, intelligence and decency that it is hard to predict what will happen.
She certainly does not deserve a political career after this.

She has the Trump name which will likely keep the proud boys and other gutter dwellers loyal to her.

Actual Republicans will avoid any Trump for the plague they are.

duploelabs · 12-01-2021 08:08AM

Overheal wrote: »

The Belichick statement

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErfeEl_XUAEYMOt?format=jpg&name=900x900

Interesting fact: me, him, and Mark Bingham - one of the Flight United 93 counter-hijackers, all pledged the same fraternity. Somehow, I don't think Bingham's sacrifice to defend the US Capitol on 9/11 has been lost on Brother Belichick.

Trump and him have been friends for years, to a point where trump wanted to make him a military advisor, this will really hurt him, more than the pga snub. I'd expect a tweetstorm in 5.....oh wait

Overheal · 12-01-2021 08:11AM

duploelabs wrote: »

Trump and him have been friends for years, to a point where trump wanted to make him a military advisor, this will really hurt him, more than the pga snub. I'd expect a tweetstorm in 5.....oh wait

Trump was well advised then, not to appoint a football coach to the role of a military advisor. War isn't a sport, or a game.

edit: really great annotated version of Trumps speech before the attack https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/annotated-trump-speech-jan-6-capitol/

Just in case anyone still thinks the President didn't incite it, have a read of it.

francois · 12-01-2021 08:26AM

Cody montana wrote: »

She barged into a conversation with EU leaders and nodded her head.

Who hilariously turned their backs and ignored her

Smee_Again · 12-01-2021 08:28AM

bfa1509 wrote: »

Do you support the BLM "protests"? I suppose the 17 people killed in those are justified.

Yes, some probably were but without knowing too much about all 17 I'd say most were not particularly those killed by right wing terrorists which make up a large proportion of that 17.

everlast75 · 12-01-2021 08:30AM

Utter ****ing nonsense.

The idea that her or Don pose any possibility of becoming the nominee in 2024 is absolutely not going to ****ing happen, for a multitude of reasons, including that she is a woman.

Trump, for all his flaws, has a charisma which works on the weak minded. Ivanka and Don absolutely do not.

Neither one of them can hold a room.

Neither one of them have the illusion of being self made business mogul.

Neither one of them will have the national enquirer or other resources trump utilised in 2016.

Neither one of them will be running against a manifestly hated character like Hillary Clinton.

No how, no way.

And all of the above is without what will happen to the Trump name over the next year or two.

I can see why someone may instinctively fear it, but it does not in any way, become a possibility once it is considered for a short period of time.

tigger123 · 12-01-2021 08:37AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Utter ****ing nonsense.

The idea that her or Don pose any possibility of becoming the nominee in 2024 is absolutely not going to ****ing happen, for a multitude of reasons, including that she is a woman.

Trump, for all his flaws, has a charisma which works on the weak minded. Ivanka and Don absolutely do not.

Neither one of them can hold a room.

Neither one of them have the illusion of being self made business mogul.

Neither one of them will have the national enquirer or other resources trump utilised in 2016.

Neither one of them will be running against a manifestly hated character like Hillary Clinton.

No how, no way.

And all of the above is without what will happen to the Trump name over the next year or two.

I can see why someone may instinctively fear it, but it does not in any way, become a possibility once it is considered for a short period of time.

Would agree. Trump himself is a very charismatic charleton. None of the others hold that quality.

everlast75 · 12-01-2021 08:39AM

Overheal wrote: »

Trump was well advised then, not to appoint a football coach to the role of a military advisor. War isn't a sport, or a game.

edit: really great annotated version of Trumps speech before the attack https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/annotated-trump-speech-jan-6-capitol/

Just in case anyone still thinks the President didn't incite it, have a read of it.

The only ones that don't think he incited that riot are either being delusional or disingenuous.

That's all the people Trump has left on his side.

pjohnson · 12-01-2021 08:52AM

everlast75 wrote: »

The only ones that don't think he incited that riot are either being delusional or disingenuous.

That's all the people Trump has left on his side.

Exactly. And I see no reason these dopes would not vote for Ivanka.

They left reality behind years ago.

The Inbetween is mine · 12-01-2021 08:55AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Exactly. And I see no reason these dopes would not vote for Ivanka.

They left reality behind years ago.

Why would anyone think republicans would give Ivanka a platform to run for president?
Even the most one eyed amongst them has seen how badly this has played out for them and would want to wash their hands of the whole sorry family..
The best Ivanka could do is perhaps try to run as an independent

Leroy42 · 12-01-2021 08:56AM

Why would Ivanka even be invited? She is a WH staffer. Not POTUS or FLOTUS. She holds no office, not elected.

This sounds very much to me as a planted story that she would be willing to go, knowing she will not even be asked, and thus no danger she would actually have to go.

Just think about it. Her going would be a kick in the face of all the Trump supporters, all those GOPers that have fought for her dad the last two months. And of course most telling a complete repudiation of her Dads no show.

She has been virtually invisible since the election but this is an issue she feels strongly about?

Its the classic win-win for her. She appears high valued and looking for unity while knowing she won't actually have to do anything

pjohnson · 12-01-2021 08:57AM

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Why would anyone think republicans would give Ivanka a platform to run for president?
Even the most one eyed amongst them has seen how badly this has played out for them and would want to wash their hands of the whole sorry family..
The best Ivanka could do is perhaps try to run as an independent

Obviously the reps wouldnt touch her but no reason she cant run as Independent. Might be an interesting race between Kanye and Ivanka :pac:

everlast75 · 12-01-2021 09:09AM

Trump has owed this bank millions in loans over the years and they have either given him a pass or allowed him to restructure.

Not any more.

https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1348788189322997762?s=20

Professor Moriarty · 12-01-2021 09:10AM

Leroy42 wrote: »

Why would Ivanka even be invited? She is a WH staffer. Not POTUS or FLOTUS. She holds no office, not elected.

This sounds very much to me as a planted story that she would be willing to go, knowing she will not even be asked, and thus no danger she would actually have to go.

Just think about it. Her going would be a kick in the face of all the Trump supporters, all those GOPers that have fought for her dad the last two months. And of course most telling a complete repudiation of her Dads no show.

She has been virtually invisible since the election but this is an issue she feels strongly about?

Its the classic win-win for her. She appears high valued and looking for unity while knowing she won't actually have to do anything

If I were a Dem strategist, I'd immediately harvest all of her tweets and statements from the past six years and investigate her past, present and future businesses and private life. Over the next four years, I'd spend my time squirrelling away little nuggets of Ivanka dirt to be fed out to the media as soon as she hit the campaign trail.

Jimmy Bottlehead · 12-01-2021 09:20AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Trump has owed this bank millions in loans over the years and they have either given him a pass or allowed him to restructure.

Not any more.

https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1348788189322997762?s=20

It'll be interesting to see if he or they decide to play hardball with the payback. Hittin' Donnie where it really hurts.

Quin_Dub · 12-01-2021 09:24AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks like they're considering disbarring Rudy in New York.. Expect we'll get some posters praising him shortly for balance.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1348716078785064961?s=19

Not quite - That's not disbarment , basically he's potentially getting kicked out of the Lawyers Union , but he'd still be able to practice law.

Disbarment is a different thing.

Padre_Pio · 12-01-2021 09:35AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Trump has owed this bank millions in loans over the years and they have either given him a pass or allowed him to restructure.

Not any more.

https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1348788189322997762?s=20

Another company that could have ceased business at any time, but picks this bandwagon to jump on.

Trump has 8 days left of his presidency, why didn't they make this statement before now?

12-01-2021 09:42AM

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Another company that could have ceased business at any time, but picks this bandwagon to jump on.

Trump has 8 days left of his presidency, why didn't they make this statement before now?

Again, if any of them moved against him he had the power to make life difficult for them with legalisation I am not saying there is no a certain amount of cynicism in their actions but its not as simple as that.

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